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CJ walks, Feliz to rotation, Fielder signed, Yu signed, Ogando closes, $$$$$ 2 22.22%
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Yankee mode (resign CJ, Yu signed, Fielder signed and going for it all in 2012) $$$$$$$ 0 0%
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Old 02-05-2012, 08:46 PM   #201
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If you'll notice in my post, I said I wasn't real comfortable with calling it a disease. But comparing it to "lack of self control" is idiotic.
Do you mean to say that the ability to willing stay sober is sometimes outside a person's control?
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Do you mean to say that the ability to willing stay sober is sometimes outside a person's control?
Well let's define what we're talking about, first. People that abuse drugs and/or alcohol, become chemically dependent on them. They have very real and very difficult physical and emotional issues when they try to stop their habit. Some things are powerful enough that it doesn't even take abuse to create a dependency. I've walked alongside someone who had to wean off of a year of Oxicodone use (not abuse, used as prescribed) and it was horrific.

So telling someone that is chemically dependent to use their self control is of course possible, but it's somewhat akin to telling someone that is clinically depressed to "just be happy".

As for someone that has broken the dependency and is in recovery, it is certainly within their control, but let's not be like Murph and act like it's akin not having your morning coffee. If you want to get technical (which is what you want to do, being the board contrarian), then you are correct. But there was a context surrounding that term that was too dismissive, imo.
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If you want to get technical (which is what you want to do, being the board contrarian), then you are correct. But there was a context surrounding that term that was too dismissive, imo.
Then why didn't you say that the first time, before throwing around words like "idiotic?" You should be more careful, before you dismiss sentiments in such a heated fashion.

My apologies, if you perceive diplomacy as "technical" or "contrary."

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Then why didn't you say that the first time, before throwing around words like "idiotic?" You should be more careful, before you dismiss sentiments in such a heated fashion.

My apologies, if you perceive diplomacy as "technical" or "contrary."
I feel pretty comfortable with my assessment of his intention with the statement. If he comes back and clarifies, I'm not above apologizing.
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I feel pretty comfortable with my assessment of his intention with the statement. If he comes back and clarifies, I'm not above apologizing.
Fair enough.

But I think you are forcing ideas through the lens of your own experience, which is never a good idea.
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Compare it to something we're all addicted to: Just stop having sex. Cold turkey. And feel ashamed every time you get aroused. That's what a drug addict goes through but with drugs. lol
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If you'll notice in my post, I said I wasn't real comfortable with calling it a disease. But comparing it to "lack of self control" is idiotic.
Why is it idiotic? You make a choice.. do it or don't. Of course it's lack of self control. Your sentiments are f'ing idiotic. I'm curious as to what that makes you...

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Why is it idiotic? You make a choice.. do it or don't. Of course it's lack of self control. Your sentiments are f'ing idiotic. I'm curious as to what that makes you...
It is a choice, but there's a lot of evidence that many are genetically handicapped against making the correct choice. And getting clean after becoming chemically dependent is way, way, WAY beyond just "do it or don't".
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Well let's define what we're talking about, first. People that abuse drugs and/or alcohol, become chemically dependent on them. They have very real and very difficult physical and emotional issues when they try to stop their habit. Some things are powerful enough that it doesn't even take abuse to create a dependency. I've walked alongside someone who had to wean off of a year of Oxicodone use (not abuse, used as prescribed) and it was horrific.

So telling someone that is chemically dependent to use their self control is of course possible, but it's somewhat akin to telling someone that is clinically depressed to "just be happy".

As for someone that has broken the dependency and is in recovery, it is certainly within their control, but let's not be like Murph and act like it's akin not having your morning coffee. If you want to get technical (which is what you want to do, being the board contrarian), then you are correct. But there was a context surrounding that term that was too dismissive, imo.
I completely agree, in my mind Thig is right on about this topic. I think many people severely underestimate the power of addiction and some don't realize how bad it was for Josh. Lives are ruined by it constantly. Many people fail over and over again to beat it, and a large portion of them just give up. At his worst he had lost 40 pounds, blown all of his money, and took lethal doses (for nearly anyone else) of cocaine multiple times. He made a choice to put himself in the position he did (being at dinner alone, choosing to have the first drink) but after that I feel like it quickly becomes out of the recovering addict's control. He has said that him and alcohol "don't mix," meaning one drink is enough to get him to fall, as was the case here. Addiction is extremely power, and it will be a struggle for the rest of Josh's life. We all have our struggles and shortcomings, and this is his biggest one.

Overall, I don't think this relapse will have any huge consequences long term, as I still feel he is strongly committed to staying sober and it's a one time thing (he hasn't had any sort of relapse for 3 years, which is pretty impressive for a recovering addict of his extent.) He'll pick himself up with his faith in God and get back on the right track. It doesn't negate how incredible his turnaround has been, and it's not the end of the world. The biggest consequence is the he cost himself a lot of $$$, and he'll need to work to re-establish trust with the Rangers organization. Right now he needs prayers, love, and support, not public backlash.
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You would think that as much time as he spent hawking Jesus, Jesus would have thrown him a little bone there.
I'm not really sure what you're getting at. He wasn't a follower of Christ when he was going through all of his struggles and his life was so devastating. His parents were, and raised him in a Christian home, but he said he had never made the faith his own until he had hit rock bottom. Once he did, he slowly but surely was able to beat the addiction. He explained in his press conference that when he "loses focus on Christ" is when he has his weakest moments. His faith is what gets him through, but Jesus always said that the Christian life wouldn't be easy. Josh uses his faith to get him through, but that doesn't mean addiction still won't continue to be a struggle for him the rest of his life.
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I completely agree, in my mind Thig is right on about this topic. I think many people severely underestimate the power of addiction and some don't realize how bad it was for Josh. Lives are ruined by it constantly. Many people fail over and over again to beat it, and a large portion of them just give up. At his worst he had lost 40 pounds, blown all of his money, and took lethal doses (for nearly anyone else) of cocaine multiple times. He made a choice to put himself in the position he did (being at dinner alone, choosing to have the first drink) but after that I feel like it quickly becomes out of the recovering addict's control. He has said that him and alcohol "don't mix," meaning one drink is enough to get him to fall, as was the case here. Addiction is extremely power, and it will be a struggle for the rest of Josh's life. We all have our struggles and shortcomings, and this is his biggest one.

Overall, I don't think this relapse will have any huge consequences long term, as I still feel he is strongly committed to staying sober and it's a one time thing (he hasn't had any sort of relapse for 3 years, which is pretty impressive for a recovering addict of his extent.) He'll pick himself up with his faith in God and get back on the right track. It doesn't negate how incredible his turnaround has been, and it's not the end of the world. The biggest consequence is the he cost himself a lot of $$$, and he'll need to work to re-establish trust with the Rangers organization. Right now he needs prayers, love, and support, not public backlash.
I don't disagree that it isn't easy. My point was that it's a choice. Yes, being an addict makes it more difficult.. but yeah, it's still a choice. Most of us have addictions that we struggle with. Again, it's still a choice. I fail to make the right choice with my addiction daily. I'm just glad I don't have to give a press conference every time a fail.
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Three year extension for Andrus.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/tex...vis-andrus.ece

Nice, I love it. Just skipping right over arb years and getting it all done at once.
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Nice! Now lets lock up Cruz for 3 more years, and Napoli for 2!
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That's not a confirmed sex tape. Someone just tried to sell something. Doesn't mean they actually have one
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Rangers sign Nellie to a two year deal, avoiding arb this year and next. Time to move on to Napoli now.
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Napoli signed to one year $9.4 mil deal. Rangers streak of not going to arbitration continues for another year.
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