2014 Offseason Thread - Page 12 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

Underdog · 06-27-2014, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Feel kinda bad for him

And I'm piling it on... What an idiot. If there was any truth to the story, then Bucher printing it is going to prevent it from happening. If Lowry decides to sign with Miami, there WILL bean investigation.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-27-2014, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Feel kinda bad for him

Why? This is the type of BS media that is ruining/has ruined any type of serious journalist integrity when it comes to sports. He thought he could get ahead in the click bait/twitter following that is going to inevitably be with the Melo/Bron free agency. He wouldn't have looked like a total and complete dumbass if he had just waited til tuesday.

grndmstr_c · 06-27-2014, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Why? This is the type of BS media that is ruining/has ruined any type of serious journalist integrity when it comes to sports. He thought he could get ahead in the click bait/twitter following that is going to inevitably be with the Melo/Bron free agency. He wouldn't have looked like a total and complete dumbass if he had just waited til tuesday.

Co-sign. I don't want him to go home and kill himself or anything (and lets be honest, he's too bereft of professional integrity to take this that hard), but preventable stupidity of that sort should be punished with however much ridicule it takes to stamp it out.

DGM · 06-27-2014, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

My pipe dream for spending our $26 million is:

$13 --> Lowry
$4 --> Tucker
$5 --> Dirk
$3 --> Harris
MIN --> Carter, Marion, and Blair

Lowry/ Harris/ Felton/ Mekel
Monta/ Carter/ Ledo
Tucker/ Marion/ Crowder
Dirk/ Blair
Chandler/ Wright/ Sarge

mavs can't win with wright as backup center. sarge ok as a number 3 big but i'd let blair go.

jthig32 · 06-27-2014, 08:30 PM

Buchet has always been an ego-maniac with very little to offer. I was glad when he left ESPN so he'd stop screwing up Stein's guest appearances on the BS report.

The funny thing is, the entire industry shrugged him off and ignored him when he started up this rumor last night. His editor should be fired.

LSMF · 06-28-2014, 12:15 AM

What do you guys think about bringing back Anthony Morrow? We had him for a short period of time two seasons ago but he didn't really play much. We haven't really had a guy that was a 3pt specialist since Peja in 2011. Morrow shot 45% from downtown last season. I love that he can shoot the 3 and also knows how to use pump-fakes well to gain separation. I think he could be good in a backup role for Monta and besides that we just really need some good shooters.

PS- This is one of my favorite highlights from Morrow, I love how the crowd was stunned: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcMEoGoTMWo

grndmstr_c · 06-28-2014, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by LSMF

What do you guys think about bringing back Anthony Morrow? We had him for a short period of time two seasons ago but he didn't really play much. We haven't really had a guy that was a 3pt specialist since Peja in 2011. Morrow shot 45% from downtown last season. I love that he can shoot the 3 and also knows how to use pump-fakes well to gain separation. I think he could be good in a backup role for Monta and besides that we just really need some good shooters.

PS- This is one of my favorite highlights from Morrow, I love how the crowd was stunned: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcMEoGoTMWo

Nothing against Morrow, and Dallas definitely needs shooting, but I don't know why he'd earn minutes this time when he wasn't able to before.

LSMF · 06-28-2014, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

Nothing against Morrow, and Dallas definitely needs shooting, but I don't know why he'd earn minutes this time when he wasn't able to before.

Honestly, I never understood why he couldn't get minutes with us. We traded a good teammate and defender in Dahntay Jones for him. Morrow didn't seem to be able to get into the rotation even though he's one of the best 3pt shooters in the league. Morrow averages 10ppg for his career which isn't groundbreaking, but is pretty good for a backup role. Funny how the same thing happened again this season with Wayne Ellington. So actually you're right, there would be no point in even bringing him back when he probably wouldn't play, even though there seems to be no reason (No apparent reason, at least) why he shouldn't be able to get minutes.

yahyes · 06-28-2014, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by LSMF

What do you guys think about bringing back Anthony Morrow? We had him for a short period of time two seasons ago but he didn't really play much. We haven't really had a guy that was a 3pt specialist since Peja in 2011. Morrow shot 45% from downtown last season. I love that he can shoot the 3 and also knows how to use pump-fakes well to gain separation. I think he could be good in a backup role for Monta and besides that we just really need some good shooters.

PS- This is one of my favorite highlights from Morrow, I love how the crowd was stunned: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcMEoGoTMWo

I'd rather they give an opportunity to Jimmer.

yahyes · 06-28-2014, 01:36 AM

Does Spencer Hawes sound more reasonable now? Just think if we get Blair back. Keep Wright to have Hawes be our stretch 5. Not only would he be cheaper than Pau. But he contributes in certain ways. And is much younger than Pau. His numbers don't look bad offensively. Pair him up with Blair you could have a tricky mix. Even with Wright to add more athleticism down low. It also saves cap for Melo, Parsons, Deng, or Hayward.

Underdog · 06-28-2014, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by yahyes

Does Spencer Hawes sound more reasonable now? Just think if we get Blair back. Keep Wright to have Hawes be our stretch 5. Not only would he be cheaper than Pau. But he contributes in certain ways. And is much younger than Pau. His numbers don't look bad offensively. Pair him up with Blair you could have a tricky mix. Even with Wright to add more athleticism down low. It also saves cap for Melo, Parsons, Deng, or Hayward.

Hawes might actually be worse at defense than Calderon... No thanks.

Melonhead · 06-28-2014, 09:48 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8uRDIEPzrU

This is actually pretty funny. Add Morrow to the list of guys that have a random amazing night against the Mavs.

EricaLubarsky · 06-28-2014, 02:53 PM

Looks like Wade, Haslem, and Bosh are all opting out for smaller deals. Big-4 here we come.

hayth.james.g · 06-28-2014, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Looks like Wade, Haslem, and Bosh are all opting out for smaller deals. Big-4 here we come.

For some reason the Heat just make me laugh at this point. I'm just glad I'm not a fan of that organization. I already have the cowboys to deal with.

Underdog · 06-28-2014, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Looks like Wade, Haslem, and Bosh are all opting out for smaller deals. Big-4 here we come.

3 superstars, 4 superstars, still just 1 ball... SMH.

LionDallas · 06-28-2014, 03:15 PM

Monta
Lance
Parsons/Hayward
Dirk
Chanlder

is it possible?

EricaLubarsky · 06-28-2014, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LionDallas

Monta
Lance
Parsons/Hayward
Dirk
Chanlder

is it possible?

Possibly Hayward, but definitely not both Steph and Parsons.

Five-ofan · 06-28-2014, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

3 superstars, 4 superstars, still just 1 ball... SMH.

Or in this case 2 superstars. Because wade and bosh arent superstars anymore

EricaLubarsky · 06-28-2014, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Five-ofan

Or in this case 2 superstars. Because wade and bosh arent superstars anymore

Lowry isn't a superstar either so it's 1 superstar and 2.5 stars.

Melonhead · 06-28-2014, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LionDallas

Monta
Lance
Parsons/Hayward
Dirk
Chanlder

is it possible?

Think we'd come up a little short.
Also still need to resign Harris. Its really close though

Five-ofan · 06-28-2014, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Lowry isn't a superstar either so it's 1 superstar and 2.5 stars.

I thought they were talking about melo as the 4th. You are definitely right about Lowry

sike · 06-28-2014, 04:28 PM

I'm a little surprised that Wade is willing to opt out. Guess LBJ had them over a barrel.

hayth.james.g · 06-28-2014, 04:29 PM

It's funny though. The media hypes these teams so much for ratings.... It has nothing to do with reality.

sike · 06-28-2014, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hayth.james.g

It's funny though. The media hypes these teams so much for ratings.... It has nothing to do with reality.

Back 2 Back championships and 4 straight finals appearances isn't nothing.

Underdog · 06-28-2014, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sike

I'm a little surprised that Wade is willing to opt out. Guess LBJ had them over a barrel.

Wade knows who's the top and who's the bottom...

Melonhead · 06-28-2014, 05:01 PM

Whats even more pathetic is Haslem opting out of 4.7m. How cute that hes trying to help the Big 3. Wont get more than vet min now.

Big 3 opting out means Lebron is staying. He gets max. Other 2 take less. Sign another guy or two that they think will make a difference.

jthig32 · 06-28-2014, 05:04 PM

Why is Haslem opting out "pathetic"? Is Dirk taking a big pay cut "pathetic"? We kill these guys for being selfish and taking all the money, and now we're killing them because they (appear to be) take less money to win?

Melonhead · 06-28-2014, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Why is Haslem opting out "pathetic"? Is Dirk taking a big pay cut "pathetic"? We kill these guys for being selfish and taking all the money, and now we're killing them because they (appear to be) take less money to win?

Because 4.7 to 1.7. Thats alot of money for a guy thats almost out of the league. I have no problem with the Big 3 taking the cut. Just like the other superstars (dirk, duncan, etc)

hayth.james.g · 06-28-2014, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sike

Back 2 Back championships and 4 straight finals appearances isn't nothing.

Eh we can go round in circles going over the quality of those championships. I can cite the "I'll take my 1 to your 2" argument and all that. Either way you would be mistaking the intent of my original comment. It's more to the core issue of lack of quality news reporting and commentary. The news these days is catered to ratings but watching how it has impacted free agency in the last 6 years has been interesting. You can't blame them all together.... They are in the business of making money and the formula is quite clear. It's the same reason my wife knows so little about Edward Snowden and so much about the Kardashians. The unfortunate consequence is we hear more about the "candy" and less "meat and potatoes".

Underdog · 06-28-2014, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Why is Haslem opting out "pathetic"? Is Dirk taking a big pay cut "pathetic"? We kill these guys for being selfish and taking all the money, and now we're killing them because they (appear to be) take less money to win?

Because Heat players are evil and Mavs players are good... Duh.

EricaLubarsky · 06-28-2014, 05:12 PM

championship "quality?"

Is there such a thing?

jthig32 · 06-28-2014, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Because 4.7 to 1.7. Thats alot of money for a guy thats almost out of the league. I have no problem with the Big 3 taking the cut. Just like the other superstars (dirk, duncan, etc)

Haslem has made almost $50Mil in his career. If he wants to choose to forgo a bit to make another title run, good for him.

j0Shi · 06-28-2014, 05:28 PM

Would be kinda lol if Bosh said screw you and takes more money somewhere else. But same agent as Wade and Haslem so doubt it'll happen.

Popeye · 06-28-2014, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Why is Haslem opting out "pathetic"? Is Dirk taking a big pay cut "pathetic"? We kill these guys for being selfish and taking all the money, and now we're killing them because they (appear to be) take less money to win?

He's going to get a 3 year / $8 million deal, so he's not sacrificing anything. All the wink-wink deals are kind of pathetic but it happens everywhere. It probably happened last year with Devin Harris.

FreshJive · 06-28-2014, 05:54 PM

I didn't hear it, but Cuban on 103.3 supposedly said that we weren't going to be offering the max to anyone, and that we are looking at big fish that aren't being talked about. Any guesses as to who they might be? Bledsoe?

Five-ofan · 06-28-2014, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Why is Haslem opting out "pathetic"? Is Dirk taking a big pay cut "pathetic"? We kill these guys for being selfish and taking all the money, and now we're killing them because they (appear to be) take less money to win?

Add to that he's played his whole career in Miami. I don't like Haslem because I think he's dirty, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with this.

grndmstr_c · 06-28-2014, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

I didn't hear it, but Cuban on 103.3 supposedly said that we weren't going to be offering the max to anyone, and that we are looking at big fish that aren't being talked about. Any guesses as to who they might be? Bledsoe?

MacMahon's got a story up. Cuban talks about guys who've been in the league 10+ years in one of the quotes where he mentions not offering the max. Also clear that Rick is the centerpiece of the sales pitch.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-28-2014, 06:12 PM

I know it just isn't his nature, but I'd prefer Cuban just not say anything. And I have a hard time believing that they wouldn't try to make the room to fit in a Melo or James at a max contract if it came to that.

LonghornDub · 06-28-2014, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Why is Haslem opting out "pathetic"? Is Dirk taking a big pay cut "pathetic"? We kill these guys for being selfish and taking all the money, and now we're killing them because they (appear to be) take less money to win?

This. People praise the Spurs when their players do the same. Silly double standard.

FWIW, with the reports coming out that James will want something near a max deal (max for him will be about $26M), it would be almost impossible for the Heat to add Melo unless he takes a substantial pay cut, and Bosh and Wade also take even bigger paycuts than anybody would have expected.

grndmstr_c · 06-28-2014, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

I know it just isn't his nature, but I'd prefer Cuban just not say anything. And I have a hard time believing that they wouldn't try to make the room to fit in a Melo or James at a max contract if it came to that.

I think they'd give James whatever it took if it came to that, though the news of Wade/Haslem and possibly Bosh opting out suggests it probably won't. Melo…they'd give him a ton of money, but I'll take Cuban at his word that the offer will be at least a bit below his max.