2014 Offseason Thread - Page 52 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

chumdawg · 07-13-2014, 04:13 PM

What Kiki is talking about is what Parcells would call progress stoppers.

But then again, in this case there is not a lot of progress to stop.

grndmstr_c · 07-13-2014, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

@ESefko: Per source, it appears Shawn Marion is going to have better opportunities elsewhere and could be a former Maverick before midweek.

I'm comfortable with that timeline.

jay3189 · 07-13-2014, 04:14 PM

The Richard Jefferson pickup don't seem bad. Its for 1 year. We will see if RJ can still bring it

EricaLubarsky · 07-13-2014, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

Pretty serious one from 1993 to 1995.

Good point.

98'-99' was also pretty strong with young guys

Dirk 20
Nash 24
Walker 22
Sundov 18

Underdog · 07-13-2014, 04:14 PM

@espn_macmahon: If Mavs get Parsons, they'd have $2.7M cap-room exception and two minimum spots to fill. One min spot probably going to Sarge James.

@espn_macmahon: If Mavs don't get Parsons, they'll have $14.7M in cap space, $2.7M exception, two minimum spots and a massive problem.

EricaLubarsky · 07-13-2014, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

@espn_macmahon: If Mavs get Parsons, they'd have $2.7M cap-room exception and two minimum spots to fill. One min spot probably going to Sarge James.

Chandler/Wright/Smith/James
Dirk/???
???/Jefferson/Crowder
Ellis/???
Harris/Felton/Mekel

Inactive: Ledo

1) Dirk
2) Ellis
3) Chandler
4) Harris
5) Wright
6) Jefferson
7) Felton
8) Smith
9) Crowder
10) Mekel
11) James
12) Ledo
13)
14*)
15*)

Underdog · 07-13-2014, 04:19 PM

@espn_macmahon: If Parsons plan falls in place, Mavs likely offer Mo Williams the $2.7M slot. Not sure if he accepts it. Don't know his other options.

Jack.Kerr · 07-13-2014, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

When since 1980 did Dallas ever have a youth movement?

Recent: One of the supposed advantages/benefits bandied about of pursuing Parsons (25) or Stephenson (23) over Deng (29) or Ariza (29): youth. Or the alternative of going all in on a player like Gasol (34).

Also, Chandler (31) < Dalembert (33).

And yeah, actually, Jefferson (34) < Carter (37).

If Parsons comes through, I'll say the Mavericks have made a significant investment toward getting younger. If Richard Jefferson sees significant minutes in 2014 as a 3? Not so young.

Since 1980? While most people would just as soon not discuss it, that period after John MacLeod got fired, when Richie Adubato came in, and fans watched Adrian Dantley, Alex English, Rodney McCray fade into oblivion, seeing them replaced more or less in succession with Randy White, Jim Jackson, and Jamal Mashburn.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-13-2014, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

@ESefko: Per source, it appears Shawn Marion is going to have better opportunities elsewhere and could be a former Maverick before midweek.

Not surprising. Better be an epic appreciation thread.

chumdawg · 07-13-2014, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Good point.

98'-99' was also pretty strong with young guys

Dirk 20
Nash 24
Walker 22
Sundov 18

Samaki Walker and Bruno Sundov? Come again?

chumdawg · 07-13-2014, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Its funny to me that the bulls offered 3/30 and other teams offered similar only to take 2/20 with the Heat.

I still don't get why that is funny to you.

quietsavant · 07-13-2014, 05:00 PM

Whew! that was close. So looks like we got parsons

Eman · 07-13-2014, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by quietsavant

Whew! that was close. So looks like we got parsons

Whoooo Hoooooooo! I am SHOCKED! We have a small forward! yeah!

Underdog · 07-13-2014, 05:03 PM

Devin/Felton/Mekel
Ellis/Crowder/Ledo
Parsons/RJ
Dirk/Wright
Ty/Smith/Sarge

Underdog · 07-13-2014, 05:04 PM

Gimme some Mo.

FreshJive · 07-13-2014, 05:05 PM

Summer of Chandler Chandler. I'm excited.

Melonhead · 07-13-2014, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

Summer of Chandler Chandler. I'm excited.

Or as BG put it, Summer of Tyson Chandler Parsons

Mav Addict · 07-13-2014, 05:34 PM

Ok now that Parsons is a Mav, can we move Wright in a deal for another big man or another PG?

quietsavant · 07-13-2014, 05:34 PM

Teams that keyed in on Dirk and Ellis... It's going to be incredible to see what the Parsons consistent output of offense does to the offensive flow and affects other teams' game plan. He shoots the 3 well and can't be slept on and he can drive it pretty well and moves with activity even without the ball, that's beautiful and makes the chess game for Rick ...just perfection. Let's bring in another shooter and a backup for dirk and we'll be in the groove

quietsavant · 07-13-2014, 05:34 PM

Teams that keyed in on Dirk and Ellis... It's going to be incredible to see what the Parsons consistent output of offense does to the offensive flow and affects other teams' game plan. He shoots the 3 well and can't be slept on and he can drive it pretty well and moves with activity even without the ball, that's beautiful and makes the chess game for Rick ...just perfection. Let's bring in another shooter and a backup for dirk and we'll be in the groove

rabbitproof · 07-13-2014, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Devin/Felton/Mekel
Ellis/Crowder/Ledo
Parsons/RJ
Dirk/Wright
Ty/Smith/Sarge

Feeling it.

Add Mo. Would still love to see Felton/Wright result in a PG upgrade and another backup 4.

EricaLubarsky · 07-13-2014, 05:36 PM

Team is really coming together.

Chandler/Wright/Smith/James
Dirk
Parsons/Jefferson/Crowder
Ellis/???/Ledo
Harris/Felton/Mekel

13 guys on the roster. Mo would make it 14. Room for one development guy (Griffin?)

EricaLubarsky · 07-13-2014, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mav Addict

Ok now that Parsons is a Mav, can we move Wright in a deal for another big man or another PG?

Why do we need a 4th/5th PG? Why would we trade a big man for a big man?

Melonhead · 07-13-2014, 05:39 PM

WHEN DOES THE SCHEDULE RELEASE? I WANT ALL THE TIX

EricaLubarsky · 07-13-2014, 05:42 PM

Does Cuban get credit or do people still think that he's a failure?

Underdog · 07-13-2014, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Why do we need a 4th/5th PG? Why would we trade a big man for a big man?

I think the idea is to upgrade Felton.

rabbitproof · 07-13-2014, 05:47 PM

Parsons is a FAR cry from Carmelo/Dwight but it's worked (thanks to Dirk's sacrifice).

I grade the whole body of post-championship transactions to be a B-/C+ with this signing.

2012 = F
2013 = C+
2014 = A-

I think that comes out to B-/C+

Jack.Kerr · 07-13-2014, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Does Cuban get credit or do people still think that he's a failure?

http://www.maniacworld.com/im-the-gr...the-world.html

"I'm the greatest reality tv show producer in the world!"

Ryan4131 · 07-13-2014, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rabbitproof

Parsons is a FAR cry from Carmelo/Dwight but it's worked (thanks to Dirk's sacrifice).

I grade the whole body of post-championship transactions to be a B-/C+ with this signing.

2012 = F
2013 = C+
2014 = A-

I think that comes out to B-/C+

ellis signing alone makes it a b- at least, not to mention jose who ended up getting flipped for chandler.

rabbitproof · 07-13-2014, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan4131

ellis signing alone makes it a b- at least, not to mention jose who ended up getting flipped for chandler.

Yeah, I can see the argument for B-. The Jose signing was meh, I think we were happy to move Jose once we got Monta and saw how he fit. We also lucked a bit into Ellis. It's worked out for this year (netting Tyson) but last year was a bit lucky.

rabbitproof · 07-13-2014, 05:59 PM

Did Devin sign for 3/9 or 3/12? Seeing both #s.

Underdog · 07-13-2014, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rabbitproof

Did Devin sign for 3/9 or 3/12? Seeing both #s.

He hasn't officially signed yet, but the more reliable sources are leaning toward 3/9.

rimrocker · 07-13-2014, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Team is really coming together.

Chandler/Wright/Smith/James
Dirk
Parsons/Jefferson/Crowder
Ellis/???/Ledo
Harris/Felton/Mekel

13 guys on the roster. Mo would make it 14. Room for one development guy (Griffin?)

Wouldn't mind signing Mo Will and A Harrington (if still available) to fill out the roster.
Not sure what Harrington has left but he's only 34 and gives RC the option to stretch the floor in certain situations.
Is Parsons capable of playing PF?

Jack.Kerr · 07-13-2014, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rabbitproof

Parsons is a FAR cry from Carmelo/Dwight but it's worked (thanks to Dirk's sacrifice). ...

Much prefer a 25 year old Parsons at 15 per to a 30 year old Anthony at 22 per. Not even close.

grndmstr_c · 07-13-2014, 06:06 PM

I'm wondering if Dallas will try to make a play for an amnestied Boozer. If they can line up a salary dump for Wright, for example, they could put off signing Dirk and make a bid if he gets let go. (I wouldn't put off signing Devin. I'd get that done, and quickly.)

Budapest Maverick · 07-13-2014, 06:06 PM

We are definitely better (on paper) than we were last season. Good job FO.

FreshJive · 07-13-2014, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Or as BG put it, Summer of Tyson Chandler Parsons

Much better. There's a reason he's the writer.

rabbitproof · 07-13-2014, 06:06 PM

[QUOTE=Jack.Kerr;1351467]

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Originally Posted by rabbitproof

Parsons is a FAR cry from Carmelo/Dwight but it's worked (thanks to Dirk's sacrifice). .../QUOTE]

Much prefer a 25 year old Parsons at 15 per to a 30 year old Anthony at 22 per. Not even close.

Fair enough but it wasn't the Mavericks' first option. Nor would it have been 22 per.

Budapest Maverick · 07-13-2014, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack.Kerr

Much prefer a 25 year old Parsons at 15 per to a 30 year old Anthony at 22 per. Not even close.

LOL. (and i'm really not Anthony's biggest fan...)

HopeIsAlwaysThere · 07-13-2014, 06:08 PM

Can we or are we going to resign Blair? He won't be that expensive, am I right?