View Poll Results: Should we trade for Rajon Rondo?
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Yes, get Rondo at all costs.
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It depends what we give up.
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No, I don't want him at all.
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12-18-2014, 01:38 PM
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Rondo averages almost a triple double. This is a chance to get Jason Kidd in his prime except he lacks the size and 3 point shooting that Kidd had later in his career. Its a no brainer IMO. If all they want is Brandon Wright and a few other guys? This is the prime example of a low risk high reward type of deal. IMO, Brandon Wright doesn't have a future in Dallas anyway. I like the progress he's made but the guy has probably played himself into a big contract that I don't think Dallas will want to play especially to a backup. As long as Chandler and Dirk are healthy he'll never rack up much minutes.
This team lacks perimeter defense and shooting and while Rondo can't contribute much to the lack of shooting he can contribute to making it easier for others to score.
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12-18-2014, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest
Rondo averages almost a triple double. This is a chance to get Jason Kidd in his prime except he lacks the size and 3 point shooting that Kidd had later in his career. Its a no brainer IMO. If all they want is Brandon Wright and a few other guys? This is the prime example of a low risk high reward type of deal. IMO, Brandon Wright doesn't have a future in Dallas anyway. I like the progress he's made but the guy has probably played himself into a big contract that I don't think Dallas will want to play especially to a backup. As long as Chandler and Dirk are healthy he'll never rack up much minutes.
This team lacks perimeter defense and shooting and while Rondo can't contribute much to the lack of shooting he can contribute to making it easier for others to score.
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Man this seems like a real slap in the face of jkiddo. Rondo is a young jason kidd? Man im not seeing it, but i have to admit a lack of knowledge on rondo.
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12-18-2014, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dude1394
Man this seems like a real slap in the face of jkiddo. Rondo is a young jason kidd? Man im not seeing it, but i have to admit a lack of knowledge on rondo.
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If anything, Rondo is a poor-mans Alvin Robertson minus ever having a quadruple double (20pts, 11reb, 10ast, 10stl). He's small, frenetic, and passes better than he shoots. No leadership but skyhigh energy.
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12-18-2014, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
If anything, Rondo is a poor-mans Alvin Robertson minus ever having a quadruple double (20pts, 11reb, 10ast, 10stl). He's small, frenetic, and passes better than he shoots. No leadership but skyhigh energy.
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I certainly wouldn't call Rondo "small" - sure, he's only 6'1", but he has a ridiculous 6'9" wingspan... His length, coupled with his energy, is why he's such a good rebounder/defender.
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12-18-2014, 04:15 PM
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I'd like to counter the notion that Rondo isn't that good of a defender/ rebounder.
Ummm, yes he is. Someone pointed out players average a PER of 18.0 against him vs. the league-wide average of 15.0. First off, everyone and their mothers know that PER is skewed in favor of those who contribute in limited minutes (cough cough Wright cough). A more accurate measure is DPRM which takes into account points allowed per 100 possessions. Rondo is 4th in the league. http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rp...RPM/position/1
Rondo also leads the Celtics in defensive +/-, not taking into account Gerald Wallace who plays 8 mpg. http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/BOS/2015.html
Rondo is also 1st among PG's in defensive rebound % & 6th in offensive rebound %. To top it off he also leads the league is assist ratio (% of possessions that result in an assists), and assists.
On offense, Rondo's struggles seem to be overstated. He isn't shooting well but he's running a relatively efficient offense considering their roster. The Celtics are 6th in PPG, tied for 11th/12th in FG% at .461 (the immediate 3 squads ahead of them are at .462). They struggle making and defending 3s and turning the ball over.
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12-18-2014, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tap2390
I'd like to counter the notion that Rondo isn't that good of a defender/ rebounder.
Ummm, yes he is. Someone pointed out players average a PER of 18.0 against him vs. the league-wide average of 15.0. First off, everyone and their mothers know that PER is skewed in favor of those who contribute in limited minutes (cough cough Wright cough). A more accurate measure is DPRM which takes into account points allowed per 100 possessions. Rondo is 4th in the league. http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rp...RPM/position/1
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I agree with your assertion that he's a killer rebounder, but his PER suffers because of his TO and low shooting percentages (40.5%/ 25%/33.3%) with 3.4 TOper game
His FG%, FT%, and 3pt FG% are all concerning, but his TOs are not terrible or surprising. He is the league leader in ball handling (he has the ball for a HUGE percentage of his team's possessions) and he has an A/TO of 3.2-- which is NASH-level
Remember when Donnie said that he only wanted PGs with an A/TO over 3? Well he'd like Rondo and HATE Nelson's 2.4
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