06-25-2012, 06:12 PM
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I like nashie but I'm just not interested in offensive only players. Our defense needs to get back where it was, nashie would not help that at all.
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06-25-2012, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dude1394
I like nashie but I'm just not interested in offensive only players. Our defense needs to get back where it was, nashie would not help that at all.
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Our defense was statistically better in both the regular season, and in the playoffs as last year, definitely in the playoffs. Our offense though, became a lot worse. Also, there is no correlation between PG defense, and winning basketball games. It is a statistically proven fact. Not saying Nash is the answer, but your reasoning is wrong imo. Age is the factor for me, if anything.
Last edited by Budapest Maverick; 06-25-2012 at 06:16 PM.
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06-25-2012, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Budapest Maverick
Also, there is no correlation between PG defense, and winning basketball games. It is a statistically proven fact.
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06-26-2012, 05:44 AM
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Now wing defense, that's a whole other question. As we all know, Kidd did a tremendous job guarding SG's, and SF's last season. Good job on the picture btw, it made me laugh.
Last edited by Budapest Maverick; 06-26-2012 at 05:46 AM.
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06-25-2012, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Budapest Maverick
Also, there is no correlation between PG defense, and winning basketball games. It is a statistically proven fact.
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I would love to see statistics that prove that.
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06-26-2012, 05:50 AM
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I would love to see statistics that prove that.
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I'll try my best to find those articles, and statistical samples, but i can tell you this, it is more and more accepted amongst basketball minds (especially with the increased used of advanced stats) that this is the case, because of a couple reasons, most importantly the end of the hand check era, and probably also the improvement of the offensive schemes. I read an unhealthy amount about this sport, and this is definitely one of the things i gathered in the last couple of years. To me, that's like saying TS% is better than FG%. I can understand why some of you don't feel that way, and we can agree to disagree, with that said, i'm gonna put in the time and try to find those articles and such that i read about this the last couple of years, hopefully it will lead to a good discussion.
Last edited by Budapest Maverick; 06-26-2012 at 05:53 AM.
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06-30-2012, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by dude1394
I like nashie but I'm just not interested in offensive only players. Our defense needs to get back where it was, nashie would not help that at all.
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PG defense is almost irrelevant right now, and Nash's defense is average as the advanced stats show, but hey listen to the media myths and telling it as facts.
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06-30-2012, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mavs777
PG defense is almost irrelevant right now, and Nash's defense is average as the advanced stats show, but hey listen to the media myths and telling it as facts.
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Oh sorry...didn't realize nashie was such a competent defender.
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06-30-2012, 01:49 PM
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Oh sorry...didn't realize nashie was such a competent defender.
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He's average.
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