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Bayliss · 01-26-2013, 09:52 AM

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That performance from Roddy should be enough to cut Mike James.

Well, I doubt the Mavs keep James for the remainder of the season anyway so when his 10 day is up.... The major compliant I had with Roddy last night were the turnovers in the fourth. He had about 3 miscues when the Mavs could have cut it under 10 with about 4 minutes left to play. And they were unforced turnovers......

jthig32 · 01-26-2013, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Bayliss

Well, I doubt the Mavs keep James for the remainder of the season anyway so when his 10 day is up.... The major compliant I had with Roddy last night were the turnovers in the fourth. He had about 3 miscues when the Mavs could have cut it under 10 with about 4 minutes left to play. And they were unforced turnovers......

Oh, I think there's a very good chance that James is signed for the rest of the season, at least if the media is to be believed.

I'm not saying Roddy had a perfect game, or is ready to consistently contribute. But if that performance is even possible, then he should be given regular rotation minutes the rest of this year, because this team isn't going anywhere.

oilfieldtrash · 01-26-2013, 11:06 AM

Not sure what the shock is about? I guess I was the only one here not looking through blue colored glasses. We have a team full of backup level players.
Well we need 2 1/2 to 3 games won to every game lost from here on out to get to the playoffs. Not sure why Cuban and RC keep up the charade of pretending this is a playoff level team? Trade every asset and dump any salary you can.

LonghornDub · 01-26-2013, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

That performance from Roddy should be enough to cut Mike James.

I see you've come around. Good, goooood.

*edit* I should clarify, I know you always disliked James. But I think it was you who said a few days ago it didn't bother you so much that he was playing backup over Roddy.

j0Shi · 01-26-2013, 01:56 PM

Don't have the exact numbers right now, but saw that Kaman allowed his counterpart to shoot 9-of-10 for a 56.xx PER. Good lord...

Collison allowed Parker/other PGs 10-for-15, Roddy 1-for-7 (6 FTA)

j0Shi · 01-26-2013, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bayliss

Well, I doubt the Mavs keep James for the remainder of the season anyway so when his 10 day is up.... The major compliant I had with Roddy last night were the turnovers in the fourth. He had about 3 miscues when the Mavs could have cut it under 10 with about 4 minutes left to play. And they were unforced turnovers......

Sure Roddy still is out of control, but as long as he's aggressive the good will outweigh the bad. Just like last night. Hard to complain about two turns when he ultra-efficiently scores 19 points in 16 minutes.

And you know how guys settle in: consistent playing time.

I agree btw. that they'll keep James. It's (sadly) his backup spot to lose.

Popeye · 01-26-2013, 02:13 PM

the front office needs to save Carlisle from himself. they should know he's going to favor the 37 year old Mike James over Roddy, but they have to see it's hurting the team. PLEASE CUT JAMES, and don't sign anymore spare veteran PGs.

I also question playing Crowder over Dauhntey.

j0Shi · 01-26-2013, 02:17 PM

They have to use Crowder in a different way. He should play way closer to the basket. That's his strength.

grndmstr_c · 01-26-2013, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

I see you've come around. Good, goooood.

*edit* I should clarify, I know you always disliked James. But I think it was you who said a few days ago it didn't bother you so much that he was playing backup over Roddy.

I actually haven't minded him getting backup point guard minutes while the Mavs are trying to figure out whether to give him guaranteed money for the rest of the season, and I think I'm as stubborn a believer in Roddy's intrinsic worth as there is on this board. Once the decision's made and pen is put to paper, though, my patience and understanding will instantly dry up. There's no way in hell Mike James should be anything more than the 3rd point guard on this team.

DGM · 01-26-2013, 02:32 PM

As long as he has older veteran players they will be on the floor. Did you see RC's comments in the paper regarding Roddy. "I'm a long time supporter of his and when he does things like tonight he tells on himself".

RC acts as if no one has been watching. Ho can the kid show his skills at the end of the bench. James was first off the bench. Roddy went in when the game was out of hand.

oilfieldtrash · 01-26-2013, 02:39 PM

Roddy, Collison, James, Jones should all be released at the end of the season. Seriously. Dojo has the most upside of any of them IMO. If he could quit being so damn nervous out there and finish his layups he'd probably make a decent backup. Roddy is too fragile and inconsistent. I've already seen what he can do for the last 4 years. Not interested

Kante · 01-26-2013, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by oilfieldtrash

Roddy, Collison, James, Jones should all be released at the end of the season. Seriously. Dojo has the most upside of any of them IMO. If he could quit being so damn nervous out there and finish his layups he'd probably make a decent backup. Roddy is too fragile and inconsistent. I've already seen what he can do for the last 4 years. Not interested

Stop posting!

Simple_Like_That · 01-26-2013, 06:52 PM

I just watched the Spurs game...

The problem with the Mavs is that besides OJ - Marion - Dirk they have no more starter calibre players... Brand, Collison, Carter, Wright, Kaman, Beaubois and Jones... all of them are or have the potential to be quality role players. Other good point is that OJ and Dirk can't play D that well so they should be paired with good defenders in the pg and C positions. And Marion is a good defender but can't get the job done in the O end.

The best lineup rotation in my opinion:

Beaubois/Collison/James
OJ/Jones/Crowder
Marion/Carter
Dirk/Wright
Brand/Kaman/James

But a trade must happen.

DevinHarriswillstart · 01-26-2013, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by oilfieldtrash

Roddy, Collison, James, Jones should all be released at the end of the season. Seriously. Dojo has the most upside of any of them IMO. If he could quit being so damn nervous out there and finish his layups he'd probably make a decent backup. Roddy is too fragile and inconsistent. I've already seen what he can do for the last 4 years. Not interested

You're seriously crapping on the leading scorer last night who scored 19 points in 16 minutes? Good luck to you.

Dojo is barely a 4th string guard. Good luck to you on that opinion as well.

LonghornDub · 01-27-2013, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

I actually haven't minded him getting backup point guard minutes while the Mavs are trying to figure out whether to give him guaranteed money for the rest of the season, and I think I'm as stubborn a believer in Roddy's intrinsic worth as there is on this board. Once the decision's made and pen is put to paper, though, my patience and understanding will instantly dry up. There's no way in hell Mike James should be anything more than the 3rd point guard on this team.

I see this thinking.

jthig32 · 01-27-2013, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

I see you've come around. Good, goooood.

*edit* I should clarify, I know you always disliked James. But I think it was you who said a few days ago it didn't bother you so much that he was playing backup over Roddy.

It was all a matter of levels. At the time, James was closing games over Collison, and that was driving me more insane than possibly anything related to the Mavs over the past 5 years, so it was hard to care about the lesser issue of backup PG role.

dude1394 · 01-27-2013, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Bayliss

Well, I doubt the Mavs keep James for the remainder of the season anyway so when his 10 day is up.... The major compliant I had with Roddy last night were the turnovers in the fourth. He had about 3 miscues when the Mavs could have cut it under 10 with about 4 minutes left to play. And they were unforced turnovers......

They have to keep him. Roddy is more likely to continue to stink than play well.

Bayliss · 01-27-2013, 11:48 AM

Not stink: get injured.

Roddy can't play more than two or three games without sitting out a month with a hangnail.

dude1394 · 01-27-2013, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bayliss

Not stink: get injured.

Roddy can't play more than two or three games without sitting out a month with a hangnail.

Disagree....roddy has and does stink it up just fine when healthy. He's been doing it going on four seasons now. Last night was typical roddy IMO. He got some threes to go down and he gets real interested.

He also likes playing against Parker. I hope he continues but his history says otherwise.

oilfieldtrash · 01-27-2013, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

You're seriously crapping on the leading scorer last night who scored 19 points in 16 minutes? Good luck to you.

Dojo is barely a 4th string guard. Good luck to you on that opinion as well.

Dojo is the only guard with NBA level passing ability, a big frame, and athleticism. While his bb skills are definitely unpolished I stand by my comments he has the most potential of any of them. Collison or Roddy's upside is fast guy off the bench that scores. That's it.

DevinHarriswillstart · 01-27-2013, 12:01 PM

I'm on the side of Roddy's progress being stinted because of injuries. He'll never have a high BBIQ (like most of the guards currently on the team), but he has seemingly been injured his entire career. He still somehow has two fingers taped together on his left hand because his middle finger won't heal or something? Crap luck if you ask me.

saclare · 01-27-2013, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by oilfieldtrash

Dojo is the only guard with NBA level passing ability, a big frame, and athleticism. While his bb skills are definitely unpolished I stand by my comments he has the most potential of any of them. Collison or Roddy's upside is fast guy off the bench that scores. That's it.

Yet you sarcastically include him in your signature...

Derp.

Kante · 01-27-2013, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by oilfieldtrash

Dojo is the only guard with NBA level passing ability, a big frame, and athleticism. While his bb skills are definitely unpolished I stand by my comments he has the most potential of any of them. Collison or Roddy's upside is fast guy off the bench that scores. That's it.

You, my sir, are an idiot.

grndmstr_c · 01-27-2013, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

Disagree....roddy has and does stink it up just fine when healthy. He's been doing it going on four seasons now. Last night was typical roddy IMO. He got some threes to go down and he gets real interested.

He also likes playing against Parker. I hope he continues but his history says otherwise.

You're entitled to your opinion of him, but in no way, and by no stretch of the imagination, has he been anything like healthy for going on four seasons.

dude1394 · 01-27-2013, 03:17 PM

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You're entitled to your opinion of him, but in no way, and by no stretch of the imagination, has he been anything like healthy for going on four seasons.

Agreed... But it doesn't change my opinion of his intestinal fortitude.