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Erwin Dudley --- Possible undrafted Free agent?
Would you give this guy a chance to try to make the roster in the offseason? He could be a Elton Brand type of player I guess. I love this statement: Very strong...Has excellent footwork...Gets into good position on the court offensively, defensively, and rebounding wise...Loose balls and rebounds have a way of just finding him. Definately sounds intrigueing!!! Erwin Dudley Birthdate: 9/2/81 NBA Position: Power Forward College: Alabama Class: Senior Ht: 6-8 Wt: 260 Hometown: Uniontown High School: R.C. Hatch Pro Comparison: Udonis Haslem Strengths: Very strong...Has excellent footwork...Gets into good position on the court offensively, defensively, and rebounding wise...Loose balls and rebounds have a way of just finding him...An intelligent player who gives relentless effort on the floor...Attacks the glass on both ends of the court, and gets points on offensive putbacks...Wide frame and great strength allow him to get off a shot in crowded lane...Solid man and team defender. Weaknesses: Lacks ideal height for an NBA PF, and is not an NBA caliber athlete...does not appear to have much room for improvement in his game..Little to no ball handling ability...Poor passer...Range on jumper ends at around 15 feet, and shoots a hard ball (flat with no touch, ball speeds off the rim on rebounds)...Does not posses many post moves...His scoring is limited to little more than power moves and putbacks...His lack of athleticism (i.e. quickness, leaping ability) will hurt defensively as most NBA PF's will likely be able to go around or shoot over him. Notes: One of the top rebounders in SEC history well on his way to a third straight SEC rebounding crown...wide and powerful frame, but short for an NBA PF (6'8) and he does not have long arms...One of college basketball's better big men who appears to maxed out his game. -Ben Egger Unproven entity Despite a solid career at Alabama, Erwin Dudley is having trouble getting noticed by NBA scouts 06/24/03 STEVE IRVINE News staff writer He has proven durability. Starting in 129 consecutive games not to mention never missing a practice because of an injury took care of that. He has proven ability. Leading the Southeastern Conference in rebounding for three consecutive seasons and earning SEC MVP honors following one of those seasons took care of that. What Erwin Dudley apparently didn't prove in four years at the University of Alabama is that he earned a place in Thursday's NBA draft. Peruse the NBA mock drafts on a variety of Internet sites and the 6-foot-8, 260-pound Dudley is nowhere to be found in the two rounds of selections. Talk to a variety of NBA scouts, as Alabama coach Mark Gottfried has over the past two months, and you discover that those draft projections appear to be accurate. Listen closely enough and the message is repeated. "A lot of people have told me I'm not getting drafted," Dudley said. Yet he will still settle in front of the television on Thursday night to watch the draft. He said he'll probably have a nervous feeling in his stomach and a bit of hope in his heart. Whether or not he hears his name called, Dudley will still harbor the same dream. "I want to play in the NBA," the 21-year-old Uniontown native said. Gottfried believes his star pupil will eventually do that. He says he has no doubt that Dudley has the ability to play in the NBA. He thinks plenty of teams will extend a training camp invitation to Dudley. Gottfried also knows the reason that NBA teams are expected to pass on Dudley. "A lot of people like him but unfortunately he hasn't been able to work out for teams because of his leg," Gottfried said. "It's kind of out of sight, out of mind." Consider what Dudley did in his time in Tuscaloosa and it may be difficult to understand why Dudley fell out of sight from NBA scouts. He was an All-American as a junior. He was the first player since Shaquille O'Neal to lead the SEC in rebounding for three consecutive seasons. He reached double figures in scoring for four consecutive seasons. For most, however, the college resume needs to be supplemented by impressive workouts with NBA teams. Dudley fell out of sight about the same time he first set out to impress the NBA scouts. It happened on April 9, just nine minutes into his first game at the Portsmouth Invitational, which is set up as the first audition camp for NBA scouts. "My leg and knee got twisted up," Dudley said. The result was a crack in the tibia just below his left kneecap and damage to the knee. Six days later he underwent knee surgery. Two months later he still is waiting for the fracture to heal completely and doctors to give him clearance to play basketball. It hasn't been an easy time for Dudley. "You have to understand he is one of the most durable players in the country," Gottfried said. "He never missed as much as a drill in four years." The past two months Dudley has learned what it is like to rehabilitate a significant injury. He's worked out regularly with Alabama trainer John Morr. He's visited the UA weight room daily for stringent upper-body workouts and some light lower-body work. He's also done his best to shoo away the frustration. "It's been tough some times," Dudley said. "But it's all about me having faith in God. I have to believe that something good is going to happen for me." Perhaps it's that belief which allows Dudley not to think about what might have happened if he would have skipped his final season at Alabama. He looked into entering the draft last spring but returned when he was projected to be picked around the middle of the second round. Perhaps he could have moved up in last year's draft, considering he was healthy enough to work out with NBA teams. "I think about that some," Dudley said. "You know, it was the right thing for me. I got my (criminal justice) degree. I got more experience. I progressed more as a player." His future progression may take him places he would rather not play. Dudley admits there is a possibility he might have to begin his professional career in a foreign country or the National Basketball Development League. "The first place I want to be is the NBA," Dudley said. "That hasn't changed. I'm not worried about it. I'll let other people worry about it. All I can do is hope and pray for the best."
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06-24-2003, 11:31 AM
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RE: Erwin Dudley --- Possible undrafted Free agent?
Five questions with Erwin Dudley
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reigning Southeastern Conference Player of the Year Erwin Dudley, a senior forward, bypassed early entry in the NBA draft to return to Alabama. He's glad he did - for the first time ever, the Crimson Tide (9-0) are ranked No. 1 in the Associated Press Top 25. Dudley, eagerly awaiting the Tide's Jan. 4 visit from No. 21 Xavier, answered five questions from the Enquirer's Dustin Dow. --- 1. Who is your athletic role model, and why? My teammates. Guys like Kenny Walker. He's a great role model. He's always there to help me out. He goes out in the community and does things. He's a nice guy. He has a soft heart and he's a hard worker. And I could say that about all my teammates. They're nice guys. They work hard in school. They look out for each other. It's how a team should be, and I think that's why we're successful. --- 2. Who is the toughest player to go against and why? Udonis Haslem (of Florida) is about the toughest. He's just a good post player. He knows how to get position. He knows how to post up. --- 3. What's the best thing about being ranked No. 1? Did you ever think you'd be in the position of being No. 1 in the nation? I'd never thought about it. It's an honor to be No.1, to be the top school in the country. That's great. But also it causes you to have enemies. There will always be teams out there ready to knock you down off the top. And while it's fun, what matters is who's No. 1 when the season ends. That's when you want to be No. 1. --- 4. What are your New Year's resolutions? Anything like win the SEC or make the Final Four? All of those! OK - stay healthy. Win the national championship and repeat as SEC Player of the Year. --- 5. To what NBA player are you most similar? I don't know who I play like, but I do know who I would like to play like, and that's Hakeem Olajuwon. Hakeem throws that jump hook like no one can.
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Chopper City :: Erwin Dudley
Big things can come from small places...  It's possible your high school had more students than the total population of Uniontown, Alabama. The chances are probably a lot slimmer, however, that your school had a better basketball player than Uniontown's favorite son, Erwin Dudley. It's just that, talking to the man, you'd never have any idea how good he really is. An unassuming 6-8, 260 pounds, Dudley is about as boisterous as a librarian. In fact, the only time Erwin sounds the slightest bit animated is when his sometime controversial school, the University of Alabama, comes into the discussion. "It ain't no different than any other place," insists the big man on campus. "The cameras are just always on us." The one they call E-Dud better get used to the screen time. Seeing as how his Bama squad celebrated New Year's as the first Crimson Tide team to be ranked No. 1 in school history, the media could cuddle up with the Tide well into March. Maybe then the unheralded Dudley can get a little bit of the recognition he deserves. "Erwin's a very underappreciated player," says coach Tubby Smith of SEC rival Kentucky. "He's just solid and smart." A lot of other folks in the Southeastern Conference apparently agreed last season, naming the blue-collar forward the league's '01-02 Player of the Year. "It's got a nice ring to it," Dudley blushes when asked about the honor. "I enjoyed it for a little while, and then I just went on about my business." Of course, he's thinking about the business of scoring and rebounding. Picking up where he left off last year, "Helicopter" -- as he was tagged in high school -- took averages of 13.5 points and 10.2 boards into 2003. But had you spoken to Dudley a few years ago, he'd probably be talking about bushels and acres. "I did a lot of farming," remembers the 21-year-old senior. "It was hot sometimes (on the farm). That's about it." Even if there was more to it, you'd be hard-pressed getting Erwin to talk about it. Right now, the big man is only concerned with beating the likes of Kentucky, LSU and Florida and making it to New Orleans in early April. And he honestly believes the talented Tide can roll into the Final Four if they just "keep playing ball. We gotta stay healthy and keep getting better." Your school probably didn't have anyone as confident as this guy, either. -- DEMARCO WILLIAMS
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2002-03 Men's Basketball Preseason Polls & Honors -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, November 1, 2002 ATHLON SPORTS NCAA TOURNAMENT PREDICTIONS Elite 8: Florida, Kentucky Sweet 16: Alabama Two & Out: Georgia, Mississippi State One & Done: LSU, Ole Miss NIT: Auburn, South Carolina, Vanderbilt ALL-AMERICA TEAMS First Team: Erwin Dudley, Alabama Second Team: Jarvis Hayes, Georgia Third Team: Matt Bonner, Florida Hon. Mention: Mario Austin, Mississippi State; Ronald Dupree, LSU; Brett Nelson, Florida ALL-SEC TEAMS First Team: Mario Austin, Mississippi State; Matt Bonner, Florida; Erwin Dudley, Alabama; Ronald Dupree, LSU; Jarvis Hayes, Georgia Second Team: Brett Nelson, Florida; Jason Parker, Kentucky; Justin Reed, Ole Miss; Ron Slay, Tennessee; Maurice Williams, Alabama Third Team: Keith Bogans, Kentucky; Matt Freije, Vanderbilt; Ezra Williams, Georgia; Rashad Wright, Georgia; Derrick Zimmerman, Mississippi State Player of the Year: Erwin Dudley, Alabama Newcomer of the Year: Antwain Barbour, Kentucky Best Defensive Player: Kyle Davis, Auburn Most Underrated: Derrick Zimmerman, Mississippi State TOP 10 LISTS Floor Leaders: (8) Maurice Williams, Alabama Shooters: (6) Brett Nelson, Florida Slashers: (2) Jarvis Hayes, Georgia Inside-Out: (3) Matt Bonner, Florida; (4) Ronald Dupree, LSU; (7) Justin Reed, Ole Miss Post Men: (1) Erwin Dudley, Alabama; (3) Mario Austin, Mississippi State Emerging Stars: (1) James White, Florida; (5) David Lee, Florida Transfers: (1) Damien Wilkins, Georgia Assistants to Watch: (4) Orlando Early, Alabama BASKETBALL NEWS ALL-AMERICA TEAMS First Team: Erwin Dudley, Alabama Second Team: Mario Austin, Mississippi State ALL-SEC TEAMS First Team: Mario Austin, Mississippi State; Erwin Dudley, Alabama; Jarvis Hayes, Georgia; Brett Nelson, Florida; Derrick Zimmerman, Mississippi St. Second Team: Keith Bogans, Kentucky; Matt Bonner, Florida; Ronald Dupree, LSU; Justin Reed, Ole Miss; Ezra Williams, Georgia Player of the Year: Erwin Dudley, Alabama Newcomer of the Year: Anthony Roberson, Florida PLAYER RANKINGS Playmakers: (10) Brett Nelson, Florida; (16) Derrick Zimmerman, Mississippi State; (17) Maurice Williams, Alabama; (18) Torris Bright, LSU Gunners: (10) Ezra Williams, Georgia Slashers: (2) Jarvis Hayes, Georgia; (8) Damien Wilkins, Georgia; (14) Keith Bogans, Kentucky Inside-Outers: (4) Matt Bonner, Florida; (7) Ron Slay, Tennessee; (17) David Lee, Florida Bangers: (1) Erwin Dudley, Alabama; (5) Mario Austin, Mississippi St.; (14) Justin Reed, Ole Miss BEST OF THE BEST Backcourts: (5) Florida Frontcourts: (1) Alabama; (2) Georgia; (5) Mississippi State Starters: (2) Florida; (5) Alabama; (6) Kentucky; (7) Georgia Benches: (1) Florida; (4) Kentucky; (5) Ole Miss Offenses: (3) Florida Defenses: (3) Kentucky; (7) Florida SPORTING NEWS ALL-AMERICA TEAMS First Team: Erwin Dudley, Alabama ALL-SEC TEAMS First Team: Maurice Williams, Alabama; Ronald Dupree, LSU; Jarvis Hayes, Georgia; Erwin Dudley, Alabama; Mario Austin, Mississippi State Second Team: Derrick Zimmerman, Mississippi State; Ezra Williams, Georgia; Keith Bogans, Kentucky; Justin Reed, Ole Miss; Matt Bonner, Florida Player of the Year: Jarvis Hayes, Georgia Newcomer of the Year: Antwain Barbour, Kentucky PLAYER & UNIT RANKINGS Point Guards: (5) Maurice Williams, Alabama; (14) Derrick Zimmerman, Mississippi State; (18) Rashad Wright, Georgia Shooting Guards: (10) Antwain Barbour, Kentucky; (11) Ezra Williams, Georgia Small Forwards: (4) Jarvis Hayes, Georgia; (5) Ronald Dupree, LSU; (12) Christian Drejer, Florida Power Forwards: (2) Erwin Dudley, Alabama; (5) David Lee, Florida; (8) Justin Reed, Ole Miss; (9) Ron Slay, Tennessee Centers: (3) Mario Austin, Mississippi State; (5) Matt Bonner, Florida Frontcourts: (4) Florida; Other Ten: Kentucky Backcourts: (6) Georgia; Other Ten: Florida HONOR ROLL Best shooter: Jon Higgins, Tennessee Best playmaker: Maurice Williams, Alabama Best dunker: James White, Florida Best NBA prospect: Christian Drejer, Florida Most likely to blossom: Rolando Howell, South Carolina Best rebounder: Erwin Dudley, Alabama Best defender: David Sanders, Ole Miss Best game coach: Tubby Smith, Kentucky Most versatile: Ronald Dupree, LSU Will take a charge: Matt Bonner, Florida Most underrated player: Ronald Dupree, LSU LINDY'S BASKETBALL NCAA TOURNAMENT PREDICTIONS Sweet 16: Alabama; Florida; Kentucky Field of 64: Georgia; Ole Miss; Mississippi State ALL-SEC TEAMS First Team: Mario Austin, Mississippi State; Jarvis Hayes, Georgia; Justin Reed, Ole Miss; Erwin Dudley, Alabama; Matt Bonner, Florida Second Team: Brett Nelson, Florida; Ezra Williams, Georgia; Derrick Zimmerman, Mississippi State; Ronald Dupree, LSU; Rolando Howell, South Carolina Third Team: Torris Bright, LSU; Maurice Williams, Alabama; Ron Slay, Tennessee; Keith Bogans, Kentucky; Marquis Daniels, Auburn Player of the Year: Erwin Dudley, Alabama Newcomer of the Year: Antwain Barbour, Kentucky PLAYER & UNIT RANKINGS Point Guards: (10) Derrick Zimmerman, Mississippi State; (14) Maurice Williams, Alabama Shooting Guards: (9) Ezra Williams, Georgia; (14) Brett Nelson, Florida; (16) Keith Bogans, Kentucky Small Forwards: (1) Jarvis Hayes, Georgia; (3) Justin Reed, Ole Miss; (9) Ronald Dupree, LSU; (15) Marquis Daniels, Auburn Power Forwards: (2) Erwin Dudley, Alabama; (5) Matt Bonner, Florida; (15) Rolando Howell, South Carolina Centers: (3) Mario Austin, Mississippi State; (11) Tony Kitchings, South Carolina Backcourts: (6) Florida Frontcourts: (7) Georgia; (8) South Carolina SEC TIDBITS Top shooter: Brett Nelson, Florida Top rebounder: Erwin Dudley, Alabama Top defender: Kyle Davis, Auburn Top playmaker: Derrick Zimmerman, Mississippi State Most versatile: Marquis Daniels, Auburn Most entertaining: Ron Slay, Tennessee Top NBA Prospect: Justin Reed, Ole Miss STREET & SMITH'S NATIONAL TOURNAMENT PREDICTIONS Beast of the East: Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Mississippi State ALL-AMERICA TEAMS First Team: Erwin Dudley, Alabama Third Team: Jarvis Hayes, Georgia ALL-SEC TEAM First Team: Erwin Dudley, Alabama; Mario Austin, Mississippi State; Matt Bonner, Florida; Jarvis Hayes, Georgia; Brett Nelson, Florida RATING THE PLAYERS Best penetrator: Cliff Hawkins, Kentucky Best passer: Maurice Williams, Alabama Best shooter: Brett Nelson, Florida Best shot-blocker: Kyle Davis, Auburn Best defender: Justin Hamilton, Florida Best instincts: Chuck Eidson, South Carolina Best athlete: Ronald Dupree, LSU Best under pressure: Brett Nelson, Florida Best leader: Ron Slay, Tennessee Top NBA prospect: Jarvis Hayes, Georgia Top impact freshman: C.J. Watson, Tennessee COLLEGEINSIDER.COM ALL-AMERICA TEAM First Team: Mario Austin, Mississippi State; Keith Bogans, Kentucky; Matt Bonner, Florida; Erwin Dudley, Alabama NAISMITH PLAYER OF THE YEAR CANDIDATES Mario Austin, Mississippi State; Keith Bogans, Kentucky; Matt Bonner, Florida; Erwin Dudley, Alabama; Jarvis Hayes, Georgia; Brett Nelson, Florida DICK VITALE'S ALL-ROLLS ROYCE TEAMS Second Team: Erwin Dudley, Alabama; Jarvis Hayes, Georgia Third Team: Mario Austin, Mississippi State Fourth Team: Matt Bonner, Florida Fifth Team: Justin Reed, Ole Miss Sixth Team: Brett Nelson, Florida FOXSPORTS.COM PLAYER RANKINGS Point Guards: (8) Maurice Williams, Alabama; (12) Derrick Zimmerman, Mississippi State; (14) Justin Hamilton, Florida Shooting Guards: (12) Keith Bogans, Kentucky; (19) Brett Nelson, Florida Small Forwards: (2) Jarvis Hayes, Georgia; (10) Ronald Dupree, LSU Power Forwards: (2) Erwin Dudley, Alabama; (4) Mario Austin, Mississippi State; (12) Ron Slay, Tennessee; (13) David Lee, Florida; (18) Justin Reed, Ole Miss Centers: (3) Matt Bonner, Florida
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Sounds ok...but the guy just has to change his name...Erwin Dudley ....yikes.
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If he can do this: Has excellent footwork...Gets into good position on the court offensively, defensively, and rebounding wise...Loose balls and rebounds have a way of just finding him.
I wouldn't care if his name was BILL CLINTON!!!
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Edit: Did some thinking. If Vranes is gone, what more can we expect with the 56th pick anyways? and its not a guaranteed contract either, so if he doesn't pan out, you cut him.
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Erwin Dudley --- Possible undrafted Free agent?
I don't know about Dudley, saw him play last year when we (Ole Miss) beat them. He seems big, of course, but I don't like his game that much. Could be interesting but defenitly faded with his team down the strech. If you want an SEC player, we should look at Ron Slay, can fill it up. Keep him in shape, could be a good one down the line at the 3.
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