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peruna11 · 06-26-2007, 10:12 PM

Jim Gray is reporting that KG is heading to the Suns, Boston will get Marion and Minnesota will get the #5 pick and other unnamed players. This all depends on Marion decision to opt out of his contract after his year in Boston.

RingTheBell · 06-26-2007, 10:18 PM

Boston is demanding Marion sign an extension.

Male30Dan · 06-26-2007, 10:22 PM

ME!!!

So let me get this straight... Phoenix now has a team consisting of Amare Stoudemire, Steve Nash, and Kevin Garnett???

Great. That is just great.

Silk Smoov · 06-27-2007, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Male26Dan

ME!!!

So let me get this straight... Phoenix now has a team consisting of Amare Stoudemire, Steve Nash, and Kevin Garnett???

Great. That is just great.

Word around the street is that MN will only trade for Amare in a KG trade. Dont believe the hype with this trade unless Amare is going to MN. I think sources are saying Amare/KG trade is on the table as the best chance of getting done, but we all know crazier things have happened.

Just from the Suns stand point, how could you have Amare and KG on the same team fighting for the SAME minutes.

RingTheBell · 06-27-2007, 10:19 AM

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Just from the Suns stand point, how could you have Amare and KG on the same team fighting for the SAME minutes.

KG is probably the most unselfish bigman in the league. All he cares about is winning.

V2M · 06-27-2007, 10:47 AM

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KG is probably the most unselfish bigman in the league. All he cares about is winning.

Except during practice... when he likes to punch his teammate that dunks on him!

And except when he dumps on his teammates (ask Billups, Marbury, Wally, James, etc.) to cover up his inability to carry a team!!

Don't get me wrong, he's a great player and if we have a chance to get him here for the right price... I'm all for it! But he's not even in the top 3 in WC when it comes to most unselfish bigmen who care only about winning and nothing else. I'd easily put TD, Dirk and Ming ahead of him in that category!!

Flacolaco · 06-26-2007, 10:22 PM

How does that make any sense for Minnesota?

Stylistic · 06-26-2007, 10:24 PM

As well as Boston.It doesn't make sense for them either. They need all the picks they can get and they'll trade away their number 5? Danny Ainge is an idiot. I don't see this going through. If it does, that would be the most lopsided 3 way trade for one team I've ever seen.

RingTheBell · 06-26-2007, 10:27 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2917781

Suns, Wolves, Celtics start up Garnett talks

ESPN.com news services

Kevin Garnett went so far as to talk to Kobe Bryant about the two stars playing together on the Los Angeles Lakers. He might want to give Steve Nash a call.

ESPN's Jim Gray reported on Tuesday night that a league source said that the latest trade scenario has Garnett landing in Phoenix with the Suns.

Three teams are involved in these discussions, with the Suns getting Garnett, the Celtics picking up Phoenix forward Shawn Marion and the Wolves acquiring the fifth pick in Thursday's draft and players from Boston.

This development comes after ESPN's Ric Bucher reported earlier on Tuesday that talks between the Lakers and Wolves concerning Garnett had broken down. The Lakers had reportedly offered a package containing at least forward Lamar Odom and center Andrew Bynum.

The current trade is basically contingent on whether Marion would agree to a contract extension with the Celtics, Gray reported. Marion can opt out of his contract after the 2007-08 season. The Suns have spoken to Marion about the deal.

The Suns and Wolves spoke about a Garnett trade last week, and according to ESPN.com's Marc Stein, Marion told Phoenix that he would not want to play for Minnesota or Boston.

Sources have told Stein that Garnett and Nash have become good friends in recent years. Garnett, a 10-time All-Star, has told the Wolves that he wants to play for a warm weather team that has a legitimate chance to win the championship.

Garnett can also opt out of his contract after the coming season, prompting talks that the Timberwolves refused to entertain for years.

rabbitproof · 06-26-2007, 10:23 PM

Al Jefferson has to be included.

Stylistic · 06-26-2007, 10:25 PM

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Al Jefferson has to be included.

If he is and they include their number 5 pick. Danny Ainge needs to be fired.

DubOverdose · 06-26-2007, 10:27 PM

Well, this is the supposed deal in play...

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Al Jefferson has to be included.

Phoenix Trades : Shawn Marion, Kurt Thomas, #24, Atlanta's 1st rounder,
Phoenix Recieves : Kevin Garnett

Boston Trades : Theo Ratliff, Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes, Sebastian Telfair, #5 pick, Minnesota's future first
Boston Receives : Shawn Marion

Minnesota Trades : Kevin Garnett
Minnesota Recieves : Theo Ratliff (exp), Kurt Thomas (exp), Sebastian Telfair (exp), Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes, #5, #24, Atlanta's future 1st, Minnesota's future first

Minnesota gets expirings, youth, and 4 1st rounders for their disgrunted star.
Boston gets a defensive-minded star to help Pierce
Phoenix makes a move for KG to pair up with Nash & Amare to make a major title run.

rabbitproof · 06-26-2007, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DubOverdose

Well, this is the supposed deal in play...

Phoenix Trades : Shawn Marion, Kurt Thomas, #24, Atlanta's 1st rounder,
Phoenix Recieves : Kevin Garnett

Boston Trades : Theo Ratliff, Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes, Sebastian Telfair, #5 pick, Minnesota's future first
Boston Receives : Shawn Marion

Minnesota Trades : Kevin Garnett
Minnesota Recieves : Theo Ratliff (exp), Kurt Thomas (exp), Sebastian Telfair (exp), Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes, #5, #24, Atlanta's future 1st, Minnesota's future first

Minnesota gets expirings, youth, and 4 1st rounders for their disgrunted star.
Boston gets a defensive-minded star to help Pierce
Phoenix makes a move for KG to pair up with Nash & Amare to make a major title run.

Thanks, Dub. That is not bad at all. PHX comes up the most IMO.

chumdawg · 06-26-2007, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DubOverdose

Well, this is the supposed deal in play...

Phoenix Trades : Shawn Marion, Kurt Thomas, #24, Atlanta's 1st rounder,
Phoenix Recieves : Kevin Garnett

Boston Trades : Theo Ratliff, Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes, Sebastian Telfair, #5 pick, Minnesota's future first
Boston Receives : Shawn Marion

Minnesota Trades : Kevin Garnett
Minnesota Recieves : Theo Ratliff (exp), Kurt Thomas (exp), Sebastian Telfair (exp), Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes, #5, #24, Atlanta's future 1st, Minnesota's future first

Minnesota gets expirings, youth, and 4 1st rounders for their disgrunted star.
Boston gets a defensive-minded star to help Pierce
Phoenix makes a move for KG to pair up with Nash & Amare to make a major title run.

That trade makes nothing BUT sense for ALL three teams. It must be going down.

chumdawg · 06-26-2007, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DubOverdose

Well, this is the supposed deal in play...

Phoenix Trades : Shawn Marion, Kurt Thomas, #24, Atlanta's 1st rounder,
Phoenix Recieves : Kevin Garnett

Boston Trades : Theo Ratliff, Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes, Sebastian Telfair, #5 pick, Minnesota's future first
Boston Receives : Shawn Marion

Minnesota Trades : Kevin Garnett
Minnesota Recieves : Theo Ratliff (exp), Kurt Thomas (exp), Sebastian Telfair (exp), Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes, #5, #24, Atlanta's future 1st, Minnesota's future first

Minnesota gets expirings, youth, and 4 1st rounders for their disgrunted star.
Boston gets a defensive-minded star to help Pierce
Phoenix makes a move for KG to pair up with Nash & Amare to make a major title run.

I couldn't agree with Male[var=age]Dan more: This trade is WIN, WIN, WIN.

The Wolves come out like an absolute BANDIT in this trade. In fact, this might be on par with the Herschel Walker trade. They get salary relief in SPADES. Who said that expiring contracts weren't worth anything anymore? Ratliff's is the biggest one on the market, and it's a big player in this deal. They get a kid with good potential in Green (basically a retroactive first), the #5 in this beautiful draft, another first in this draft, and two future #1's, including one that might be another lottery pick? My goodness, for a team that is looking to rebuild, they just hit the freaking lottery! Even Gomes can tide them over for a little while. WOW. That might be the biggest haul any player ever brought in. And it makes perfect sense, since if the Wolves are dealing KG, they are clearly committed to a few years of rebuilding. Kevin McHale will be doused in champagne if this deal goes through.

Phoenix gets EXACTLY what they want, which is an upgrade in order to win NOW. Enough said.

Boston satisfies all their requirements. The fans are punch-drunk from the shock of the lottery, and Pierce is an unhappy camper. On the surface, they give just the #5 and spare parts for Shawn freakin' Marion. I can guarantee you that they weren't going to get anything at #5 that would come remotely close to offering them what Marion will bring. Basically, Boston gets out lucky. If they can't do a deal for a vet like Marion, they are looking at watching the whole thing explode on them.

It's a beautifully-crafted deal, if it goes down like that.

DubOverdose · 06-26-2007, 10:24 PM

Minny has to get a lot more than the #5.

Murphy3 · 06-26-2007, 10:24 PM

Why would Marion sign an extension with Boston? Him plus Pierce doesn't equal a whole hell of a lot.

RingTheBell · 06-26-2007, 10:25 PM

They have 3 first round picks with this deal don't they?

They get the 5 and expirings from boston.

It was Pierce demanding a star player that got this trade done IMO.

Tokey41 · 06-26-2007, 10:30 PM

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They have 3 first round picks with this deal don't they?

They get the 5 and expirings from boston.

It was Pierce demanding a star player that got this trade done IMO.

I think Boston could do a hell of a lot better than Marion with all of their assets in aquiring a star player, probably not what Pierce had in mind. I doubt Marion signs an extension with that team anyways.

Flacolaco · 06-26-2007, 10:26 PM

What's a #5 pick and spares compared to odom and bynum?

Or just holding out for Amare?

I hope this is bs.

link? mr. thread starter?

rabbitproof · 06-26-2007, 10:27 PM

Either Al Jefferson is in the deal and Ainge is a dumb ass or he isn't and McHale is a dumb ass.

RingTheBell · 06-26-2007, 10:29 PM

The Suns leak the story IMO...

They let Suns fans know that this deal is on Marion saying yes. If he says no he commits public suicide for this remainder in Phoenix.

DubOverdose · 06-26-2007, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RingTheBell

The Suns leak the story IMO...

They let Suns fans know that this deal is on Marion saying yes. If he says no he commits public suicide for this remainder in Phoenix.

No. Why would the Suns leak this? When you leak a trade, there's a good chance it won't go down. The Suns, according to this deal, make out the best...by FAR. If there's a team that wouldn't leak this, it would be the Suns. The team that would leak it would be the TWolves because they know that a team would outbid the 'current' 3 way.

RingTheBell · 06-26-2007, 10:33 PM

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No. Why would the Suns leak this? When you leak a trade, there's a good chance it won't go down. The Suns, according to this deal, make out the best...by FAR. If there's a team that wouldn't leak this, it would be the Suns. The team that would leak it would be the TWolves because they know that a team would outbid the 'current' 3 way.

To force Marion to sign. If he stays in Phoenix he will be known to the fans as "the guy who kept KG out of a Suns Uni".

V2M · 07-01-2007, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RingTheBell

The Suns leak the story IMO...

They let Suns fans know that this deal is on Marion saying yes. If he says no he commits public suicide for this remainder in Phoenix.

Wonder if Marion committed his public suicide yet...

Flacolaco · 06-26-2007, 10:29 PM

There should be some kind of rule against this.

How much is Garnett on the books for next year?

peruna11 · 06-26-2007, 10:32 PM

I really hope to god that Marion declines to sign an extension with Boston and stops this trade from happening.

A lineup for the suns consisting of Nash/Barbosa/Bell/Amare/KG.... that is pretty scary. It doesn't seem like much depth though. Thomas would probably have to be sent to Minny and so would Banks.

As for us wtf do we do? I don't want to get rid of Terry because he is our second best shooter, but he is a big defensive liability. Harris still can't hit a mid range shot, but is our best defender. Stackhouse is getting too old to play starter minutes. Buck was a bust and who knows what George is going to do? We have no low post game other than Dirk although he didn't show much of one during the playoffs. Howard's shooting has improved but still makes a lot of mistakes and tries to do too much on his own.

As you can see I'm really starting to panic now!

RingTheBell · 06-26-2007, 10:32 PM

Suns are keeping there 2 first round picks and next years ATL pick so they keep the reported deal with a "Top 10 pick" of this years draft.

Suns possibly get Noah and Garnett within 2 days.

Flacolaco · 06-26-2007, 10:33 PM

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Suns are keeping there 2 first round picks and next years ATL pick so they keep the reported deal with a "Top 10 pick" of this years draft.

Suns possibly get Noah and Garnett within 2 days.

Why are you hanging out with mavericks fans on a night like this?

RingTheBell · 06-26-2007, 10:34 PM

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Why are you hanging out with mavericks fans on a night like this?

I am on 3 boards... I just like you guys

EricaLubarsky · 06-26-2007, 10:33 PM

Amare
KG
Diaw
Bell
Nash

Flacolaco · 06-26-2007, 10:36 PM

The worst part of this, if it were to happen, is that this is the only way for stubborn-as-hell Dan Tony to win without having to change his system that doesn't work. His new lineup would be above the system.

Murphy3 · 06-26-2007, 10:36 PM

Well, the Suns would be better defensively...but, the odds of one of their players ending up hurt because Garnett is a puss that likes to beat on his own players increases.

jacktruth · 06-26-2007, 10:38 PM

I'm getting more and more sick of Donnie and Avery saying, "We like this team. If we do nothing, we are still elite."

EricaLubarsky · 06-26-2007, 10:38 PM

Marion gets shamed into accepting more money? Wha?

RingTheBell · 06-26-2007, 10:39 PM

Yeah if anything Marion saying he didn't want to play for Boston might give him a huge payday he never would have got unless he said that.

Nowitness41 · 06-26-2007, 10:40 PM

Why have i not seen this on sportscenter yet, am i missing something?

Captain Disaster · 06-26-2007, 10:42 PM

Do we even need to play the season next year?

Male30Dan · 06-26-2007, 10:42 PM

Minny is going to be REALLY good if that trade goes down and they draft above average. Really good. It might take 3-4 years, but that team could be great.

vjz · 06-26-2007, 11:03 PM

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Minny is going to be REALLY good if ... they draft above average.

Bwahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahaha.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Minny to draft well.

Minny's gettin' robbed.