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Old 12-07-2022, 11:32 AM   #1
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I can see why Cuban would wait. It's not like Wood cost us a lot. The guys we traded are mostly not NBA talent. Sterling Brown, Trey Burke, and Marquese Chriss were all waived and have not gotten contracts. Boban has only played 7 games for the Rockets and he's averaging 3.6mpg in the few games he plays. Wendell Moore (the 26th pick) could be something, but so far he has struggled in the NBA and was traded to Minn

If we give Wood 4/77 and we underperform, we will be
1) well into the tax and on our way to the repeat tax
2) without a 2023 FRP and barely any other FRPs
3) most of our current roster locked up long term into mediocrity

Of course, if we gel, then it's a different story, but that is why we wait.

I like Christian Wood and losing Brunson for nothing was painful. I get that he wanted to leave so I'm not upset that he left-- just that we didn't get anything for him. Right now I hope we keep him, but I wouldn't be sad if he was on another team after the TDL or next year-- I just hope we can parlay that into something because we are so asset-poor.

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Old 12-07-2022, 11:57 AM   #2
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I can see why Cuban would wait. It's not like Wood cost us a lot. The guys we traded are mostly not NBA talent. Sterling Brown, Trey Burke, and Marquese Chriss were all waived and have not gotten contracts. Boban has only played 7 games for the Rockets and he's averaging 3.6mpg in the few games he plays. Wendell Moore could be something, but so far he has struggled in the NBA and was traded to Minn

If we give Wood 4/77 and we underperform, we will be
1) well into the tax and on our way to the repeat tax
2) without a 2023 FRP and barely any other FRPs
3) most of our current roster locked up long term into mediocrity

Of course, if we gel, then it's a different story, but that is why we wait.

I like Christian Wood and losing Brunson for nothing was painful. I get that he wanted to leave so I'm not upset that he left-- just that we didn't get anything for him. Right now I hope we keep him, but I wouldn't be sad if he was on another team after the TDL or next year-- I just hope we can parlay that into something because we are so asset-poor.
Who says we take Wendell Moore? Nikola Jovic was taken at 27 and definitely a Mavs type of pick. Even Koloko where the Mavs need a big man was there and went at 33.

I'm just saying first rounders aren't something you just throw away. Losing Wood for nothing would be bad.

If he is open to extension, then you absolutely do that because then he is an actual tradable asset. Teams aren't giving you much for a two month rental.
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Old 12-07-2022, 05:33 PM   #3
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I can see why Cuban would wait. It's not like Wood cost us a lot. The guys we traded are mostly not NBA talent. Sterling Brown, Trey Burke, and Marquese Chriss were all waived and have not gotten contracts. Boban has only played 7 games for the Rockets and he's averaging 3.6mpg in the few games he plays. Wendell Moore (the 26th pick) could be something, but so far he has struggled in the NBA and was traded to Minn

If we give Wood 4/77 and we underperform, we will be
1) well into the tax and on our way to the repeat tax
2) without a 2023 FRP and barely any other FRPs
3) most of our current roster locked up long term into mediocrity

Of course, if we gel, then it's a different story, but that is why we wait.

I like Christian Wood and losing Brunson for nothing was painful. I get that he wanted to leave so I'm not upset that he left-- just that we didn't get anything for him. Right now I hope we keep him, but I wouldn't be sad if he was on another team after the TDL or next year-- I just hope we can parlay that into something because we are so asset-poor.
So we win by trading guys who can't touch the floor to get a steal in Wood. But we wait to see if the team gels like with JB and then lose him...like JB. Seems counter intuitive to have a trade hit and then we just don't even play the dude and let him ride off into the sunset essentially negating the trade win to begin with. Idk, my head spins and it has been since Kidd opened his mouth about Wood and when FO promised McGee a SLU spot. Go Mams
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Old 12-07-2022, 05:35 PM   #4
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So we win by trading guys who can't touch the floor to get a steal in Wood. But we wait to see if the team gels like with JB and then lose him...like JB. Seems counter intuitive to have a trade hit and then we just don't even play the dude and let him ride off into the sunset essentially negating the trade win to begin with. Idk, my head spins and it has been since Kidd opened his mouth about Wood and when FO promised McGee a SLU spot. Go Mams
JB wanted out of Luka's shadow.

Wood I imagine wants to get paid and to get the long-term security of a long-term contract.
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JB wanted out of Luka's shadow.

Wood I imagine wants to get paid and to get the long-term security of a long-term contract.
Well, Wood is 100% going to get paid whether we do it or not. Only thing changes is if we sign him or get an equal asset via trade, no?

And fwiw JB will always be in Lukas shadow. Going to NY doesn't change that.
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JB wanted out of Luka's shadow.
How do people revise history so quickly? He would have signed here, but the Mavs waited too long.
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How do people revise history so quickly? He would have signed here, but the Mavs waited too long.
You?re the expert? For every person spitballing that he?d say there?s actual quotes and evidence to the contrary.

The only thing we don?t know is if we offered him his full 12mill early last season before he got good if he?d have taken it. Once he started dominating, he?d be stupid to take 20mill, Mavs or otherwise.

Then FA opened and he didn?t even take a call from us.
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You?re the expert? For every person spitballing that he?d say there?s actual quotes and evidence to the contrary.

The only thing we don?t know is if we offered him his full 12mill early last season before he got good if he?d have taken it. Once he started dominating, he?d be stupid to take 20mill, Mavs or otherwise.

Then FA opened and he didn?t even take a call from us.
Yup, I agree. And now we will see if the FO learned anything with how they handle Christian Wood and his extension.
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How do people revise history so quickly? He would have signed here, but the Mavs waited too long.
They listen to Daddy Brunson and run with his word as gospel and claim it as all true, nothing else could have happened.
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