09-02-2014, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dude1394
I think you should ask the American Indian how not controlling your border works out.
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Or perhaps ask them why they didn't believe in "borders"?
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Originally Posted by dude1394
Our borders should be secured no matter how much money or how much fencing it takes.
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Said the man who owned a fencing company
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I opt for fencing as it doesn't politicians to make up their own rules.
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20-foot fence, 20-foot ladder.
In all sincerity, this is one of the least insightful, least perceptive, least informed perspectives I've ever read on D-M.com. And that's saying something.
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09-03-2014, 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Jack.Kerr
20-foot fence, 20-foot ladder.
Stupidest statement I've ever read. 11million 20 feet ladders, right.
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Mr. democrat here thinks things are just peachy-keen, except we should have open borders. We aren't bringing in enough dem votes.
Maybe it will all work out like it's working out in Europe.
Maybe they can all dress up as bin laden and cross. I've heard that isn't so tough.
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09-03-2014, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by dude1394
Mr. democrat here thinks things are just peachy-keen, except we should have open borders. We aren't bringing in enough dem votes.
Maybe it will all work out like it's working out in Europe.
Maybe they can all dress up as bin laden and cross. I've heard that isn't so tough.
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Your knowledge of my politics (and voting record) seems to be surpassed only by your understanding of how ladders work.
But keep talking-- voices like yours will eventually starve the old Republican Party to insignificance, much like Alzheimer's and a 90-year old.
You're slipping, Dude. You can't even manage a worthy retort. Is your wheelchair brake on?
Last edited by Jack.Kerr; 09-03-2014 at 07:30 AM.
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09-03-2014, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dude1394
Mr. democrat here thinks things are just peachy-keen, except we should have open borders. We aren't bringing in enough dem votes.
Maybe it will all work out like it's working out in Europe.
Maybe they can all dress up as bin laden and cross. I've heard that isn't so tough.
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So are you against all immigration or illegal immigration?
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09-03-2014, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MavsFTR
So are you against all immigration or illegal immigration?
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F*ck immigrants... Send all of them and their offspring back to where they came from.
(get ready for an influx of emigrants, Europe!)
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Last edited by Underdog; 09-03-2014 at 10:06 PM.
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09-27-2014, 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
F*ck immigrants... Send all of them and their offspring back to where they came from.
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And their offspring? Well in that case everyone has to be sent back since >99% of all Americans came from other continents.
Btw. your statement is ironic considering you have a German athlete in your signature... Please make a difference between immigrants and illegal immigrants.
Last edited by bilease; 09-27-2014 at 01:23 AM.
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09-27-2014, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by bilease
And their offspring? Well in that case everyone has to be sent back since >99% of all Americans came from other continents.
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That was exactly my point... Sorry, I should've used a more sarcastic font.
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These days being a fan is a competition to see who can be the most upset when
your team loses. That proves you love winning more. That's how it works.
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09-27-2014, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
That was exactly my point... Sorry, I should've used a more sarcastic font.
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It's just a little difficult to spot sarcasm on the internet sometimes, especially when it's not your (on this case mine) native language. Thanks for making it clear
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09-04-2014, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MavsFTR
So are you against all immigration or illegal immigration?
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I am against illegal immigration, period. Saying we cannot stop it is a cop out and just political posturing, we can and should. I would like to limit unskilled immigration for a while as well. I see pretty bad signs in the country of assimilation not occurring. We've got, what 10-20 million illegals..they can stay as far as I'm concerned as long as the border is secured, if not, not. I would probably not allow them to ever vote however.
I'm not sold on h1b being increased with an unemployment rate as high as it has been, I've seen way too many high tech companies cherry pick lower wage employees this way.
I'm not even sure we need immigration "reform" at all. Just need the federal guvment to do their job and stop illegals from coming in.
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"Yankees fans who say “flags fly forever’’ are right, you never lose that. It reinforces all the good things about being a fan. ... It’s black and white. You (the Mavs) won a title. That’s it and no one can say s--- about it.’’
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09-04-2014, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by dude1394
I am against illegal immigration, period. Saying we cannot stop it is a cop out and just political posturing, we can and should. I would like to limit unskilled immigration for a while as well. I see pretty bad signs in the country of assimilation not occurring. We've got, what 10-20 million illegals..they can stay as far as I'm concerned as long as the border is secured, if not, not. I would probably not allow them to ever vote however.
I'm not sold on h1b being increased with an unemployment rate as high as it has been, I've seen way too many high tech companies cherry pick lower wage employees this way.
I'm not even sure we need immigration "reform" at all. Just need the federal guvment to do their job and stop illegals from coming in.
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well stated. And I agree.
You are spot on with "assimilation not occurring". Unchecked immagration has ruined France and led to sharia law being implemented in England.
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09-04-2014, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dirt_dobber
well stated. And I agree.
You are spot on with "assimilation not occurring". Unchecked immagration has ruined France and led to sharia law being implemented in England.
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This is a big reason I'm not interested in so-called reform. At the end of the day everyone of those reforms increases immigration.
I just think we are desperate for a timeout. We've had them before and they are a useful way to force assimilation.
Edit: unless there is rock solid border protection. The current border protection that is being touted in the immigration reform bill is "more resources". I've been down this route before, more resources that does not translate into a wall that cannot be wink,wink crossed is of no interest to me. I don't trust dems or rep on that score, they don't have the cajones.
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"Yankees fans who say “flags fly forever’’ are right, you never lose that. It reinforces all the good things about being a fan. ... It’s black and white. You (the Mavs) won a title. That’s it and no one can say s--- about it.’’
Last edited by dude1394; 09-04-2014 at 03:06 PM.
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09-04-2014, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dude1394
This is a big reason I'm not interested in so-called reform. At the end of the day everyone of those reforms increases immigration.
I just think we are desperate for a timeout. We've had them before and they are a useful way to force assimilation.
Edit: unless there is rock solid border protection. The current border protection that is being touted in the immigration reform bill is "more resources". I've been down this route before, more resources that does not translate into a wall that cannot be wink,wink crossed is of no interest to me. I don't trust dems or rep on that score, they don't have the cajones.
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Does your perspective advocate deporting persons who were brought into the country when they were 2 years old by their parents, without documentation, and who grew up in the United States, were educated in U.S. schools, who speak English as a primary language, who are rooted in American culture, and have no ties to their country of origin, some of whom are college graduates, academic high achievers, law school graduates, medical school students......
do you demand that people who fit these profiles be denied any chance at citizenship ever, be denied the right to vote ever, and be deported forthwith?
What about soldiers who risked their lives serving their country? What about parents who LOST children who were serving their country? Not enough sacrifice?
It's easy to talk all big and blustery in the abstract, but when you start looking at specific cases, you'll never get and sustain political support zero-tolerance deportations. You just end up sounding like a crackpot. That's why your perspective will lose this issue.
You think citizenship is too easy to attain? I think it's too dificult to lose. I'd kinda like to see some discussion about stripping under-educated, big-talkin' fascists of their right to vote, maybe talk about deporting them to a foreign hot-spot to "re-earn" their citizenship, and understand what it's like to be somewhere with no legal protection, and no legal standing.
Requirement #1 for re-earning citizenship would be to demonstrate empathy for the immigrant.
Requirement #2 would be to make it through law school as an undocumented student, studying in a second language. If you have that kind of resourcefulness, you deserve to vote.
Requirement #3 would be to demonstrate language proficiency in a second language. 'Cajones'....I don't think that word means what you think it means. If you're gonna use the language, learn the language. That's right....LEARN the language. AsÃ* que, hasta la vista, pinche pendejón.
Last edited by Jack.Kerr; 09-04-2014 at 03:58 PM.
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