Postgame: Spurs at Mavs - Props and Jason Terry

[Kante]

If you can´t hit a shot, you need to sit!

I expected a loss but props to Kidd and Butler, they did their part. Barea, Terry gave us nothing, no they gave us less than nothing!

Let´s see what the news is on Haywood if there is any...

Best part of the game: Kidd blocked Parker, Cardinal 3, BAM!

[Underdog]

[LonghornDub]

Kidd triple double. 12/10/13.

[xrobx]

What if I told you an NBA player could shoot 1-13? ESPN 30 for 30 presents Jason Terry: the man who couldn't throw a beach ball into the ocean

[Kante]

The Jet is on the runway... Less talk, more showing would be good for him!

[rabbitproof]

this one is too easy...

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by LonghornDub

Kidd triple double. 12/10/13.

And Butler with 30 points on 10-21 shooting (9-9 FT's).

These would have been the highlights if we'd won...

[tcat075]

Cut the Terry hate. He had a bad game, but he's won us games in the 4th quarter this year. Sure, it's disappointing, but it doesn't deserve him getting two pages of people bashing him. He just didn't have it tonight.

[Bayliss]

Rabbit, I know you tried... I think you should get another shot... when Dirk is healthy.

[Kante]

Originally Posted by tcat075

Cut the Terry hate. He had a bad game, but he's won us games in the 4th quarter this year. Sure, it's disappointing, but it doesn't deserve him getting two pages of people bashing him. He just didn't have it tonight.

But then i don´t take 13 shots, that´s why i´m mad about him!

[xrobx]

Originally Posted by Underdog

And Butler with 30 points on 10-21 shooting (9-9 FT's).

These would have been the highlights if we'd won...

if someone other than those two would have shown up, we probably would have.

[FINtastic]

We really got worked on the boards tonight. Kidd and Chandler had really good nights on the glass, but they got zero help from the rest of the team. 3 rebounds from Brian Cardinal in 29 minutes is unacceptable in my book. I really hate that he's chewing up so many minutes at power forward if we are going to get that kind of production out of him. Marion wasn't too great on the glass either.

With all that said, it's tough to beat a team that's rolling like the Spurs if you don't have your superstar.

[FINtastic]

Originally Posted by Kante

But then i don´t take 13 shots, that´s why i´m mad about him!

Well if it makes you feel better, he didn't end up with 13 shots anyways.

[41mvp]

[She_Growls]

Originally Posted by Kante

But then i don´t take 13 shots, that´s why i´m mad about him!

Does RC have any responsibility in leaving JET on the floor? JET kept shooting b/c that's his job....he stunk tonight for sure, but I question the coaching. And no Haywood or Ian? I'm waiting to hear the reason for the DNP's.

[Dtownsfinest]

Originally Posted by tcat075

Cut the Terry hate. He had a bad game, but he's won us games in the 4th quarter this year. Sure, it's disappointing, but it doesn't deserve him getting two pages of people bashing him. He just didn't have it tonight.

Yea but what's disappointing to me is that this is usually the Jason Terry we see in the post season.

[Kante]

Spurs:

Mavs without Dirk

Wizards without Blatche and McGee.

Nuggets without Melo

Hawks without Johnson

Grizzlies without Gay

Suns without new players due to the trade

Bulls without Boozer

Now Boston comes up for them but KG will miss it.

Talk about a lucky schedule...

[dalger]

Words couldn't describe Jet's piss poor performance. It's sad to see someone, who is supposed to be an important factor, deliver that kind of a game when it matters. Then again, Jet's probably not the player we can trust when it matters. As nice as he is and as helpful as he can be, his no-shows are frustrating as hell, especially against the Spurs and without Dirk.

That said, I think we had a pretty good game and did maybe even more than I expected going into the game. Kidd was fantastic, Butler even better, Tyson good as well, Cardinal much better than expected.

Despite losing the game, we made the Spurs fight hard for the win. I'm not sure we could have asked for anything more--expcept for Jet...well, never mind.

Get well soon, Roddy and Dirk.

[AO41]

Wayyy too much Terry hate going on...he had a terrible game....but some people obviously have a very short memory or just choose what to poin out.

Who was is that won the game against Miami??? with 19 points in 10 minutes in the 4th Q......yee it was JET. That should be the end of this conversation.

But.. I see people are upset about 13 shots???? thats not even a lot of shots. If one of those shots went in it could have gotten Terry going and possibly won us the game. But if Terry doesnt shoot then who will???? JJ..Marion??

The team played good..KIDD and Butler were great...Jet was terrible....and the loss wasnt that bad. Get over it and go sleep people

[Kante]

Originally Posted by FINtastic

Well if it makes you feel better, he didn't end up with 13 shots anyways.

He was 1/13 when he decided to make the 2 shots.

After his last missed shot (13) Butler looked very angry at him because they ran a play for him, i can understand him if that was the case...

[She_Growls]

I love JET but it's time for him to go...we need consistency in the playoffs...

[LonghornDub]

JET took 13 shots because Dirk was out and he felt like he had to do something. I'm much, much less concerned with the # of shots than with how utterly lost he looked at times.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by She_Growls

Does RC have any responsibility in leaving JET on the floor? JET kept shooting b/c that's his job....he stunk tonight for sure, but I question the coaching. And no Haywood or Ian? I'm waiting to hear the reason for the DNP's.

Yeah, Mahinmi is the one I don't understand - he had a pretty decent game against SA last time we played them... Seems like he should've gotten some minutes.

As for Terry, I completely understand Carlisle's reasoning for keeping him in - we needed scoring and JET is the best scorer we have right now. He's played his way out of a funk a few times recently, so RC stuck with him in hopes that it would happen again (and it kinda did, only too late...)

[Dim499]

In '05 an 0-4 stretch for the Phoenix Suns propelled Steve Nash to his first MVP award. That's my coping mechanism to not take this loss to hard.

These parts just dont quite fit without Dirk in there. No big deal. Dirk will be back.

[jcm28]

JT was terrible, but at least we can use Dirk's absence as an excuse.

[xrobx]

i just want to know what the deal is with haywood and mahinmi. if ajinca is going to be the full time back up for chandler, this team is screwed

[Thomas86]

I luv that the Mavs didn't give up and almost had a chance to win the game, I'm not gonna bash Terry but I wish RC would have played Stevenson a little more.

[Usually Lurkin]

Terry was great for a big stretch of games earlier in the season. Then he was great for some halves of games. Then he was great for some 4th quarters of games. It's not surprising that he stinks it up now for a whole game. What would be surprising is if he springs back to full form right away. He's streaky. Let's just be glad he's not our only second option anymore.

I'm happy Butler's hitting his shots. But that can't be all we get behind Dirk.

Just for grins, look at the shot charts for Parker and Butler.
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/shotch...meId=301230006

We need someone that attacks the rim.

[Thomas86]

Originally Posted by xrobx

i just want to know what the deal is with haywood and mahinmi. if ajinca is going to be the full time back up for chandler, this team is screwed

I'm happy RC didn't play Haywood because you know the Spurs would have kept sending Haywood to the FT line to slow the Mavs down, as for Mahinmi I was kinda surprised he didn't play also.

[MavsFTR]

No I'm sorry, but this guy is just way too unreliable. Just because he makes 3-6 shots in the fourth quarter after playing like utter crap for three quarters, doesn't mean any of us should cut him some slack. I'd take a player who plays well for three quarters instead of one any day. I had a feeling this would eventually catch up with us. I'm just so sick of the guy at this moment. I don't want to hear anybody coming to his defense on this board tonight. Let me be angry at his God-awful performance. He deserves it.

[NoTnERb]

im actually happy with the way we played tonight except for terry. he's a streaky shooter, and when he's good, he's damn good but when he's not, he's awful. BUT had he had a good game tonight, the story would have been different. and that's without dirk, I'm still pretty confident that a healthy mavs can beat a healthy spurs group. I agree with Kante though, I believe the play was supposed to be for butler but JET took the shoot (and missed). Butler was feeling it at that time so JET kinda destroyed the momentum there.

[BGMaverick9]

Dirk Nowitzki WILL travel with the team over the weekend...so don't rule him out this roadtrip.

Full MMB recap up shortly

[LonghornDub]

Originally Posted by MavsFTR

No I'm sorry, but this guy is just way too unreliable. Just because he makes 3-6 shots in the fourth quarter after playing like utter crap for three quarters, doesn't mean any of us should cut him some slack. I'd take a player who plays well for three quarters instead of one any day. I had a feeling this would eventually catch up with us. I'm just so sick of the guy at this moment. I don't want to hear anybody coming to his defense on this board tonight. Let me be angry at his God-awful performance. He deserves it.

He pretty much singlehandedly won us a game last week against possibly the best team in the league, on the road. I think he deserves a bit of slack.

It's clear he's prone to bad games. This was perhaps his worst ever. No need to crucify the guy.

[Fragism]

Bad luck Mavs, I can't be disappointed because we didn't have Dirk at it was a close game.

Oh well.

[ty]

I was at the game tonight.

Gary f*ckin Neal, are you kidding me?

I'll explain the rest of my thoughts with this picture:

[Fragism]

BTW this is why I wish they would have had Jones on the roster. Surely he wouldn't have had a worse shooting night than Terry and at least he would've played better defense.

[LonghornDub]

Originally Posted by Fragism

BTW this is why I wish they would have had Jones on the roster. Surely he wouldn't have had a worse shooting night than Terry and at least he would've played better defense.

It really doesn't matter much who's on the roster in that regard. Carlisle is going to stick with Terry. I'm not saying that's always the right call, but that's just the way of it. You've got a generally clutch veteran and a old-school coach who trusts veterans. Not much else to say.

[grndmstr_c]

If Booby were in uniform on the bench I'd have a problem with Carlisle sticking with JET all the way through a bad game. With Dirk out and nobody else available who can even approach JET in terms of the amount of defensive attention they draw, no excuses are necessary for giving him the chance to right himself. It was absolutely the right thing to do.

More generally, that was, overall, a strong game from the team, I thought. Things didn't line up right for them to get the win, but the Spurs have a damn good team this year, and not having Dirk was a major handicap. Dallas started the game well, and fought back to make it a contest when it would've been easy to give up after the Spurs went on that absurd hot-shooting streak in the first half.

[BGMaverick9]

Dirk-Less Dallas Unable to Stop Spurs, 99-93

....

Jason Terry has been known as a game-changer like Nowitzki in the sense he can create space on the floor for his teammates and carry the team offensively but in the Mavericks' time of need without Nowitzki, Terry was unable to deliver. Terry scored 8 points on 3-16 shooting from the field. "I just kept telling (Terry) in the second half and fourth quarter, just keep aying your game and staying aggressive because you're going to break out of this," said Carlisle. "It was a tough night for him."

Alexis Ajinca got minutes for the second consecutive game and led to the first Did Not Play - Coaches Decision for Brendan Haywood. "Ajinca played aggressively and made some really good things happen," said Carlisle. Ajinca's ability to stretch the floor with his range ultimately created the opportunity for him to get minutes over Haywood and Ian Mahinmi. Carlisle told the media that Haywood was informed prior to the game that he would not be a primary member of the rotation based on the match-up but the possibility would still be open for him to get in the game.

Lost in the shuffle of the tough loss was the fact that Jason Kidd recorded his first triple-double of the season, 106th of his career, with 12 points, 10 rebounds and 13 assists in the losing effort. His 106 triple-doubles rank first among active players and third all-time. "They come and go. It’s a triple double. I’d rather us win and not get a triple-double," Kidd said. "It’s a triple-double in a loss, so it doesn’t mean too much."

you can read more at http://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2010/12...op-spurs-99-93

[dirno2000]

I've got to give it up to the Spurs front office. They wouldn't be the same team without Hill, Blair and Neal. That's a late first rounder, a second rounder and a UDFA.

As far as Haywood I don't think that's a big mystery. He doesn't play hard. Last year he didn't always score but we could depend on him to give us a presence inside and hit the boards hard. That guy is gone. In OKC the other night there were a couple of instances where it looked like he was fake hustling so as not to look totally indifferent. It's a shame too because we really could use him.