Iron Man

[rmacomic]

Was pretty good. Better than most super - hero movies. Any one else seen it yet?

[Usually Lurkin]

Originally Posted by rmacomic

Was pretty good. Better than most super - hero movies. Any one else seen it yet?

there's some talk of it in the general movie thread.

[rmacomic]

Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

there's some talk of it in the general movie thread.

Dang. Sorry so many threads right now I couldn't find it.

[Usually Lurkin]

Originally Posted by rmacomic

Dang. Sorry so many threads right now I couldn't find it.

I know. It's also a deceptive thread. 'cause I'm sure no one around here would have Iron Man playing in their DVD yet. Right?

[rmacomic]

I get my dvd's from the kid on the corner, doesn't everyone?

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

there's some talk of it in the general movie thread.

This one deserves its own thread. This movie was awesome. Robert Downey has re-established himself as one of my favorite actors.

[Nash13]

So many discussions with friends over this. All time great comic movies, my top 5 goes:

1. V for Vendetta
2. Sin City
3. Batman Begins
4. Iron Man
5. X-Men 2

I really enjoyed Iron Man (i've already seen it twice). The problem is, when you break it down, it's just an origin story. It was really entertaining, and had fantastic performances, but it wasn't a great story. And not only did V for Vendetta/Sin City/Batman Begins have a better story, but they were darker and more serious than Iron Man.

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by Nash13

It was really entertaining, and had fantastic performances, but it wasn't a great story. And not only did V for Vendetta/Sin City/Batman Begins have a better story,

I'll definitely give you Batman Begins, and to a lesser extent V, but I really don't think Sin City's "storyline" was anything impressive. Certainly not moreso than Iron Man's.

And isn't "really entertaining" and "fantastic performances" what you go to see when watching a movie like Iron Man? Batman is different. Batman is one of the most iconic fictional characters in history. When you see a Batman movie, especially when so many have already been made, you want the movie to be all about the character and what motivates him. A movie with a lesser-known hero like Iron Man, you go to eat popcorn and be dazzled.

but they were darker and more serious than Iron Man.

Well that's just personal preference. "Seriousness" isn't necessarily a virtue when it comes to comic-based movies. In fact, that's basically why Ang Lee's "Hulk" underperformed at the box office. Light-heartedness suits a movie about Iron Man much better than the brooding, earnest tone of movies like Batman Begins or V.

[nikeball]

Iron man..imo is the best Marvel movie to date.

Did anyone else get an erection after knowing Rhodey was going to be War Machine..the mention of SHIELD and then Samuel L Jackson showing up as Nick Fury talking about the AVENGER initiative after the ending credits?

SICKKKKKKKKKKK

[Nash13]

Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

I'll definitely give you Batman Begins, and to a lesser extent V, but I really don't think Sin City's "storyline" was anything impressive. Certainly not moreso than Iron Man's.

And isn't "really entertaining" and "fantastic performances" what you go to see when watching a movie like Iron Man? Batman is different. Batman is one of the most iconic fictional characters in history. When you see a Batman movie, especially when so many have already been made, you want the movie to be all about the character and what motivates him. A movie with a lesser-known hero like Iron Man, you go to eat popcorn and be dazzled.



Well that's just personal preference. "Seriousness" isn't necessarily a virtue when it comes to comic-based movies. In fact, that's basically why Ang Lee's "Hulk" underperformed at the box office. Light-heartedness suits a movie about Iron Man much better than the brooding, earnest tone of movies like Batman Begins or V.

I think seriousness is a virtue when it comes to comic book movies. I don't think it's ironic how the better comic movies are the ones that take themselves seriously. When it comes down to it, you got to judge a comic movie like you judge a regular movie. I think Iron Man, X2, and Spider-Man 2 took itself a lot more serious than any Marvel comic movie.

The exception to that theory are Spider-Man 1 and Hulk. Neither of those movies i think were well put together, which falls on the directors. I think both Raimi and Lee were just trying to push their own agendas rather than make a good movie, which is really unfortunate.

[ty]

Superman meets Transformers.

What a movie.

[irontoad]

Hell yes, this movie was great... one of the best Marvel movies they've put out... I think maybe what I liked best about it was that there wasn't a single moment where I thought, 'damn, that was cheesy'...

My only complaint was that halfway through the movie, a speaker (or hell, maybe 2) ended up blowing, really f'ing up the sound... go to a ghetto ass theater, get ghetto ass results, I guess though...

[MavsX]

interesting guys. I wanted to see this movie anyway..but now i have proof..so i'm definitely going to have to see this.. thanks fellas.

[Usually Lurkin]

Originally Posted by irontoad

I think maybe what I liked best about it was that there wasn't a single moment where I thought, 'damn, that was cheesy'...

there were definitely a couple for me.

Highlight below.


1) Instead of the ironman prototype, wouldn't it have been easier to build a radio or something
2) That whole scene where his assistant pulls out the shorted wire: cheese!
3) His interactions with his robots were cheesy, but in a good way, I guess.


But overall, it was a very good movie. It definitely ranks up there with the best super-hero movies. Jeff Bridges did great.

[fluid.forty.one]

Originally Posted by nikeball

Iron man..imo is the best Marvel movie to date.

Did anyone else get an erection after knowing Rhodey was going to be War Machine..the mention of SHIELD and then Samuel L Jackson showing up as Nick Fury talking about the AVENGER initiative after the ending credits?

SICKKKKKKKKKKK

thanks for the spoiler warning

[Flacolaco]

Going to see this tonight.

I hear it's pretty good.

[Flacolaco]

After seeing the movie, a couple of thoughts:

1. I am not a Gwyneth Paltrow fan, but my god was she HOT in this movie.
2. The news paper writer that he sleeps with and talks to throughout the movie....also so hot.
3. The movie itself was pretty darned good. I just don't want to take attention away from hot chicks, societies main reason for functioning.

[Underdog]

Iron Man can't control what the ball do... Crazy, man - y'all hilarious!

4/10 (but I hate popcorn)




I predict Iron Man 2, Hulk, Thor, Captain America, Ant Man (no sh!t), and the Avengers (what this entire crap-fest is leading up to) will all suck, in my superior opinion...


When does the Dark Knight come out?

[Usually Lurkin]

Originally Posted by Underdog

I predict Iron Man 2, Hulk, Thor, Captain America, Ant Man (no sh!t), and the Avengers (what this entire crap-fest is leading up to) will all suck, in my superior opinion...

You don't like popcorn???? what are you, French?

If I had to bet on that list, I'd go with Iron Man 2 and Captain America (unless the US is the bad guy). Thor and Avengers will either do very well or very crappy. I'd bet against Hulk because of Ed Norton and against Ant Man because he's an ant, man.

[sike]

Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

You don't like popcorn???? what are you, French?

If I had to bet on that list, I'd go with Iron Man 2 and Captain America (unless the US is the bad guy). Thor and Avengers will either do very well or very crappy. I'd bet against Hulk because of Ed Norton and against Ant Man because he's an ant, man.

tend to agree with UL here....Thor is one of my favorite Marvel characters but I don't see how a live action flick could pull it off.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

You don't like popcorn???? what are you, French?

If I had to bet on that list, I'd go with Iron Man 2 and Captain America (unless the US is the bad guy). Thor and Avengers will either do very well or very crappy. I'd bet against Hulk because of Ed Norton and against Ant Man because he's an ant, man.

Le pop-corn est la merde parfumée...

[Flacolaco]

Originally Posted by Underdog

Le pop-corn est la merde parfumée...

There is a bad word in there.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by Flacolaco

There is a bad word in there.

"la" isn't the same as "L.A." - no bad words here!

[92bDad]

Iron Man and Batman Begins are two of my favorite Comic Super-Hero movies.

When they first came out, I really liked the Spider Man movies.

I however also like the Hulk movie...but then again that Godzilla movie grew on me as well...I really like the French guy...I know Godzilla is not a comic super hero...but I think it and the Hulk rank together as movies that are fun to watch.

Another one that I like is "Spawn"

Now I'm looking for the next Batman...Heath Ledger plays one wiched Joker character...he played it so well, that it lead to his own personal demise...kinda freaky if you ask me.

Let me not foget the Fantastic 4...perhaps cheesy, but I liked it.

[sike]

Originally Posted by 92bDad

Iron Man and Batman Begins are two of my favorite Comic Super-Hero movies.

When they first came out, I really liked the Spider Man movies.

I however also like the Hulk movie...but then again that Godzilla movie grew on me as well...I really like the French guy...I know Godzilla is not a comic super hero...but I think it and the Hulk rank together as movies that are fun to watch.

Another one that I like is "Spawn"

Now I'm looking for the next Batman...Heath Ledger plays one wiched Joker character...he played it so well, that it lead to his own personal demise...kinda freaky if you ask me.

Let me not foget the Fantastic 4...perhaps cheesy, but I liked it.

can't decide if this post is genius or from the mind of an insane human.

[92bDad]

I like to think of it as insanity.

I had a saying back in my HS days (Mid 80's)...Insanity is Beautiful, look at me :-)

I was a screwed up Heavy Metal Preppy...I dressed like a preppy, had the hair of a headbanger and rocked out to Bob Seger...

Talk about screwed up!!!

I am looking forward to more of these action comic movies!!!

[kg_veteran]

Originally Posted by Flacolaco

After seeing the movie, a couple of thoughts:

1. I am not a Gwyneth Paltrow fan, but my god was she HOT in this movie.

Unbelievably hot.

[bruinsbaseball]

Great movie.

[bruinsbaseball]

well done too, special effects were perfect, not over the top.

[sike]

One thing I would have liked changed would have to been to bring "Obi" slower along as a villain...I thought Bridges was pitch perfect in that role and would have liked to see him get a second movie as a real villain.

casting was perfect...except Sam Jackson will make a TERRIBLE Fury.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by sike

One thing I would have liked changed would have to been to bring "Obi" slower along as a villain...I thought Bridges was pitch perfect in that role and would have liked to see him get a second movie as a real villain.

That was the worst part of this movie - first Obidiah was Tony's friend, then suddenly he's a bad guy (for no reason other than *apparent* greed...)

Weak sauce...


In the comic books, Obidiah's motivation was his competitive drive to win at all costs - as a child, he killed another kid's dog, just so the kid would be distracted before they played a game of chess... Now THAT's the kind of villain I want to see in a movie - one who is motivated by human desires, rather than a character whose only motivation is to sell more toys for Hasbro!

[sike]

Originally Posted by Underdog

That was the worst part of this movie - first Obidiah was Tony's friend, then suddenly he's a bad guy (for no reason other than *apparent* greed...)

Weak sauce...


In the comic books, Obidiah's motivation was his competitive drive to win at all costs - as a child, he killed another kid's dog, just so the kid would be distracted before they played a game of chess... Now THAT's the kind of villain I want to see in a movie - one who is motivated by human desires, rather than a character whose only motivation is to sell more toys for Hasbro!

To give the movie at least a little credit, I don't think Stain was ever Tony's friend...he just used Tony to build himself up...stood on Tony genius, etc. I agree with you, though...it would have been nice to see Stain's character fleshed out a bit more...but they spent their tiime (properly so) fleshing out Tony. That is why I'd have liked to see a disposable character villain in this movie with Stain as the shadowy background puppet master and see him emerge in the next film as the main antagonist.

I really liked what Bridges was doing though...he is so great.

[Usually Lurkin]

I didn't read too many of the Iron Man comic books - but that Obidiah transition didn't bother me in the least, or seem sudden. Once I saw Jeff Bridges bald and with a big beard and running a weapons company, I figured he'd be a bad guy sooner or later.

This movie goes to show that acting is everything.

[ShaggyDirk]

I didn't think Paltrow was anything special in this movie. If anything she wore to much makeup.

[sike]

Originally Posted by ShaggyDirk

I didn't think Paltrow was anything special in this movie. If anything she wore to much makeup.

how Shaggy likes 'em...

[ShaggyDirk]

disturbing that you would even have or know where that picture is.

[sike]

Originally Posted by ShaggyDirk

disturbing that you would even have or know where that picture is.

if you remember "Me, Myself, and Irene" The Albino in the back left is in that movie....

[ShaggyDirk]

hahaha...i love that movie

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

I didn't read too many of the Iron Man comic books - but that Obidiah transition didn't bother me in the least, or seem sudden. Once I saw Jeff Bridges bald and with a big beard and running a weapons company, I figured he'd be a bad guy sooner or later.

You don't have to read the comic book to desire a character with personality deeper than a bottle cap...


bald & beard = bad guy??? (actually, you might have a point there - my father WAS a bit stingy with my allowance as a kid...)

Jeff Bridges is a fine actor, but fine acting doesn't create any plausible motivation for a seemingly "good" character to become a villain for no sensible reason (and with no apparent foreshadowing!)... It's just amateurish writing, which blows my mind because Favreau's writing/directing in Swingers was brilliant!

[sike]

Originally Posted by Underdog

You don't have to read the comic book to desire a character with personality deeper than a bottle cap...


bald & beard = bad guy??? (actually, you might have a point - my father WAS a bit stingy with my allowance as a kid...)

Jeff Bridges is a fine actor, but fine acting doesn't create any plausible motivation for a seemingly "good" character to become a villain for no good reason or with no apparent foreshadowing - it's just amateurish writing (which blows my mind because Favreau's writing/directing in Swingers was brilliant!)

Bridges character arc is very clearly explained...he has been a bad guy for a long time...Tony just wasn't a threat to him. But when Tony takes a stance, Obi has any enemy. He had been "dealing under the table" long before Tony discovered his weapons in the hands of terrorists. The movie seems to say that he never was a good guy in actuality....Tony just thought he was.