05-11-2004, 01:15 AM
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Poetic justice in Sacramento
Sac has the ball down by one with 4 seconds on the clock in OT. Peja goes up for an 18 foot jump shot and gets fouled by Hassel...no call....made my day
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05-11-2004, 01:27 AM
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RE: Poetic justice in Sacramento
Karma, man. You just can't escape that stuff.
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05-11-2004, 01:32 AM
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RE:Poetic justice in Sacramento
The crybabies fouled Garnett and the Refs called a travel. WTF was that. Anyway KG proved why he is the MVP. He played PG in overtime since Cassell was fouled out.
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05-11-2004, 05:52 AM
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RE:Poetic justice in Sacramento
It's about time they got a taste of their own medicine... getting fouled on the last shot, losing by one... aaahh... PRICELESS!
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05-11-2004, 07:05 AM
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RE:Poetic justice in Sacramento
It's absolutely disgusting how officials swallow their whistles in the closing minutes. No, you don't want to have a ticky-tack foul decide a game in the final seconds. However, it's atrocity to allow a blatant non-call to impact the game like the officials have repeatedly done this off season.
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05-11-2004, 08:21 AM
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RE: Poetic justice in Sacramento
I was really hoping Peja made that shot...but the irony didn't escape me. I guess if you're down by one in the playoffs and your opponent has possession, just foul the shooter and call it a day.
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05-11-2004, 08:22 AM
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RE:Poetic justice in Sacramento
I watched the last 2 quarters and overtime of this game, and the refs were ridiculous. just plain horrible. The Kings do not have a thing to bitch about, because their second best player didn't pick up his last 5 fouls in a span of 2 1/2 minutes.
Cassell was being screwed by the refs, and his free throw shooting and ball handling at the end could have helped the Wolves stave off the comeback that led to OT.
But whatever, the kings lost, the wolves won, all is right.
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05-11-2004, 08:26 AM
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RE: Poetic justice in Sacramento
Yeah...at least two of those calls on Cassell were pretty questionable.
Speaking of physical play....I only saw the last couple of second of the Miami/Pacers game but my god....Harrington literaly tackled someone...Grant walks off the floor with a bloody nose......is that defense?
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05-11-2004, 08:35 AM
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RE:Poetic justice in Sacramento
I agree that the refs shouldn’t completely swallow their whistles in the last ten seconds. The buzzer beater is the most exiting player in the game, so it doesn’t make much sense to discourage it.
That being said, the players have to adjust. Being able to get good looks on a last second shot is a skill that requires practice. Further proof that Nelson did Dirk a disservice last season with his last second play calling.
A couple of things I’ve noticed:
1) You have a much better chance of getting a good look if you’re trying to dribble hard to a spot for a pull up, as opposed to pump faking in one place like Dirk and Peja did.
2) The swallowing of the whistles works both ways. Learn how to push off to create space. Jordan made a living off of this.
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05-11-2004, 09:41 AM
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RE:Poetic justice in Sacramento
This quote from the AP report on the game:
``I just think a guy gets that close to a shooter at the end of a game and forces him to change his shot and gets a body on him, it should be a foul,'' Adelman said. ``I feel bad for Peja, because he deserved more respect than that.''
I suppose then, that Dirk deserved more respect, too. If THAT foul had been called, the series would have gone to a Game 6, perhaps a Game 7, and who knows what happens?
Just be happy you're there, Rick.
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05-11-2004, 09:42 AM
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RE:Poetic justice in Sacramento
howewever much I want the Kings to fail, I want Cassel's T-wolves to fail more.
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05-11-2004, 09:55 AM
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RE:Poetic justice in Sacramento
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Originally posted by: EricaLubarsky
howewever much I want the Kings to fail, I want Cassel's T-wolves to fail more.
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Ain't that the truth? I can't stand that little ego-maniac alien dude.
KG is proving critics wrong this year, IMO. He was playing lights out last night. But I still want him to fail, but only because of the alien factor.
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05-11-2004, 10:11 AM
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RE:Poetic justice in Sacramento
But was it really a foul? Hassel was straight up and down, his arm didn't break a 180 degree angle. The side camara angle made it look like it was a good non-call.
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05-11-2004, 12:04 PM
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RE:Poetic justice in Sacramento
The KG traveling call in the last seconds was a good call. KG slipped and slid as he caught the ball and the only reason he didn't fall down instantly is because he fell into Brad Miller. When Brad Miller backed off KG fell. It was a good call.
KG and Hoilberg also didn't get the calls when they were fouled on shots so it was legit that Peja didn't get the call. Plus you could tell he was hoping to get bailed out rather than make the shot.
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05-11-2004, 02:19 PM
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RE:Poetic justice in Sacramento
That was an excellent game, I'm glad I stayed up for it. That last so called "foul" on Peja was exactly what he deserved after he fouled Dirk in the first round....
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05-11-2004, 02:50 PM
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RE:Poetic justice in Sacramento
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Originally posted by: MavsFanatik33
That last so called "foul" on Peja was exactly what he deserved after he fouled Dirk in the first round....
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Worrrrrrrd. Hope the guy can handle a taste of his own medicine. The tides turned in the other direction this time. They've won one game and lost one game due to the absense of a whistle so they're even now.
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05-11-2004, 02:53 PM
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RE:Poetic justice in Sacramento
Who here wants Sacramento to win this series? I just cant bearm to see them win after they knocked us out....
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05-11-2004, 03:10 PM
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RE:Poetic justice in Sacramento
I'd love to see Sacramento get screwed out of the series on last minute fouls that weren't called. That would make my day. So count me in as one who wants the queens to go down to the tpuppies.
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05-11-2004, 03:35 PM
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RE: Poetic justice in Sacramento
I can't root for a team that beat my team. I wasn't even planning to watch the series, but I'm a basketball fan...what else am I going to watch.
I don't really like KG, but I guess I'm in the minority that actually does like the alien. The guy has ice water in his veins…always has. I always felt like Nellie shipped him out too quickly. Then he talked him down in the media when he hadn’t even talked to Cassell.
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05-11-2004, 05:50 PM
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RE:Poetic justice in Sacramento
I'm going to have to live with some dissapointment because I want 3 of the remaining 4 teams in the West to lose.
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05-12-2004, 10:31 AM
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RE:Poetic justice in Sacramento
I actually hope the Kings win. I dis-like Garnett a little bit more than i do Webber. But I hope LA wins the west(Detroit to win it all).
I don't understand why people don't like Cassell?
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05-12-2004, 10:51 AM
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RE:Poetic justice in Sacramento
I don't like the TWolves....mostly because of Sam Cassel....can't stand him
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05-12-2004, 10:52 AM
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RE: Poetic justice in Sacramento
I may not care for some of the individual players, but as a team I've always enjoyed the watching the Kings play and I'm rooting for them big time against the TWolves. Peja's 4th quarter shooting the other night was a thing of beauty.
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05-12-2004, 07:44 PM
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RE:Poetic justice in Sacramento
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Sac has the ball down by one with 4 seconds on the clock in OT. Peja goes up for an 18 foot jump shot and gets fouled by Hassel...no call....made my day
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That's EXACTLY what I thought when I saw that. Nice to see I'm not the only one.
About cassell, a lot of people hate him. When you have rappers hating on you, you know there's something wrong with you.
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05-13-2004, 02:08 AM
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RE:Poetic justice in Sacramento
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Originally posted by: mavsman55
It's about time they got a taste of their own medicine... getting fouled on the last shot, losing by one... aaahh... PRICELESS!
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Taste of our own medicine? Who is in the 2nd round. Who tied up the series in game 4?
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05-13-2004, 07:03 AM
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RE:Poetic justice in Sacramento
I'm hoping that the Kings knock off the Wolves. I'm tired of hearing about how you have to have the best player in the league to win a title. If any team out of the east or the Kings were to win the title, the people arguing that you have to have the best player would have to shut the hell up for awhile. The Kings obviously don't have someone that's anywhere near being classified as the best player in the league. No one in the east does either.
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05-13-2004, 10:46 AM
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RE:Poetic justice in Sacramento
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Originally posted by: mavsman55
It's about time they got a taste of their own medicine... getting fouled on the last shot, losing by one... aaahh... PRICELESS!
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Taste of our own medicine? Who is in the 2nd round. Who tied up the series in game 4?
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I didn't know the NBA gives out trophies to teams who tied a second-round series.
CONGRATS!
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