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Dtownsfinest · 02-08-2024, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

Im wondering if the Mavs are somehow getting in on the deal that is sending Hayward to OKC. Wild speculation but maybe this is part of a three team deal (Mavs, Hornets, Thunder) that includes PJ coming to the Mavs. Again, wild speculation.

I?d love to come out of this with Gafford and PJ. I really think PJ is on the verge of being legit but I thought Holmes was a good pick up too so there?s that lol.

SMC0007 · 02-08-2024, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

I?d love to come out of this with Gafford and PJ. I really think PJ is on the verge of being legit but I thought Holmes was a good pick up too so there?s that lol.

Holmes was a fine pickup. He outplayed DP and Maxi every time he gkt a chance. He got Kidded

Dtownsfinest · 02-08-2024, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Holmes was a fine pickup. He outplayed DP and Maxi every time he gkt a chance. He got Kidded

I agree. No disagreement there. I guess i thought Kidd would like him too?.if he won?t play Gafford and PJ he needs to go faster then he already should.

EricaLubarsky · 02-08-2024, 12:32 PM

@GrantAfseth
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7m
Daniel Gafford is among six players averaging at least 2 offensive rebounds and 2 blocks per game this season, including Victor Wembanyama, Rudy Gobert, Anthony Davis, Nic Claxton, and Walker Kessler.

@GrantAfseth
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12m
NBA players averaging 2+ blocks per game this season:

Victor Wembanyama: 3.1
Brook Lopez: 2.8
Walker Kessler: 2.7
Chet Holmgren: 2.6
Anthony Davis: 2.4
Nic Claxton: 2.4
Danial Gafford: 2.2
Rudy Gobert: 2.1

EricaLubarsky · 02-08-2024, 12:45 PM

Dinwiddie for Schroder

EricaLubarsky · 02-08-2024, 12:57 PM

*Thad Young and Schroeder

Half wonder if that means DSJ is shopped

I?d take Dodo and DSJ for the reunion

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-08-2024, 01:03 PM

We got Pj Washtingon for Grant Williams, Seth Curry and a first. Wow.

dirt_dobber · 02-08-2024, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

We got Pj Washtingon for Grant Williams, Seth Curry and a first. Wow.

With Gaffords and now PJ - we have really upgraded our forward/center positions.

Dtownsfinest · 02-08-2024, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

We got Pj Washtingon for Grant Williams, Seth Curry and a first. Wow.

Nico robbed the Wiz and Hornets?.wow. Love Pj Washington?s game.

EricaLubarsky · 02-08-2024, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

We got Pj Washtingon for Grant Williams, Seth Curry and a first. Wow.

Before:
Lively/Powell/DJJ/Holmes
GWill/DJJ/Kleber/Omax/Morris

After:
Lively/Gafford/Powell
Washington/DJJ/Kleber/Omax/Morris

I wouldn't say it was a homerun, but Nico had two strikes and three balls and somehow ended up hitting two doubles.

Melonhead · 02-08-2024, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

We got Pj Washtingon for Grant Williams, Seth Curry and a first. Wow.

NO FN WAY DONT LIE TO ME I CANT CHECK TWITTER RIGH TNOW

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-08-2024, 01:22 PM

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NO FN WAY DONT LIE TO ME I CANT CHECK TWITTER RIGH TNOW

I'm lying to you.

NOOOOOOOOOOOT.

Dtownsfinest · 02-08-2024, 01:06 PM

Wow PJ and Gafford and didn?t trade anything. WOW Nico?..

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-08-2024, 01:11 PM

Giving up the first is tough, but Gafford makes that easier to swallow. Don't really have any holes anymore.

EricaLubarsky · 02-08-2024, 01:11 PM

OUT: our FRP
IN: Two SRPs

Wonder if that is what we're trading for Gafford or if OKC is still involved (Hardy for FRP,etc.)

SMC0007 · 02-08-2024, 01:16 PM

Kidd under the microscope now.

Dtownsfinest · 02-08-2024, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Kidd under the microscope now.

Yep. Thankfully.

EricaLubarsky · 02-08-2024, 01:20 PM

100 minutes left

EricaLubarsky · 02-08-2024, 01:22 PM

OUT
Richaun Holmes
Grant Williams
Seth Curry
2027 FRP

IN
Gafford
Washington
Two SRPs

The only question is what did it take to get OKC's middle pick (of the three they have this year). Lots of talk of it being a bust of a draft, but it can't just be cash, right?

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-08-2024, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

OUT
Richaun Holmes
Grant Williams
Seth Curry
2027 FRP

IN
Gafford
Washington
Two SRPs

The only question is what did it take to get OKC's middle pick (of the three they have this year). Lots of talk of it being a bust of a draft, but it can't just be cash, right?

Sounds like the Mavs woulda used that and the 27 to get both Kuzma and Gafford. Glad they didn't spend two firsts on just one player.

EricaLubarsky · 02-08-2024, 01:28 PM

90 minutes

Melonhead · 02-08-2024, 01:29 PM

This feels about as close as you can get to a complete Mavs team. Starting 4, starting 5, SOLID backup 5.

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-08-2024, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

This feels about as close as you can get to a complete Mavs team. Starting 4, starting 5, SOLID backup 5.

Yep. Bird in hand is worth two in the bush.

Dallas41 · 02-08-2024, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

This feels about as close as you can get to a complete Mavs team. Starting 4, starting 5, SOLID backup 5.

Hopefully kidd plays Gafford

If he sits the bench behind Powell I'm going to blow a fuse

EricaLubarsky · 02-08-2024, 01:33 PM

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@MavsDraft
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One of the things that I love about PJ Washington in Dallas as well?

Mavs now have their first forward that can shoot off the dribble. Last year PJ shot 39.4% on 3s off the dribble #MFFL

My only fears with PJ:
1) He falls in love with pullup threes and we have three guys jacking it
2) He continues to suck defensively. His first two seasons he was well above average. Since then, he's given up. Hopefully he can get back the hustle.
3) At 6'7" he's not much bigger than GWill and can be abused by bigger PFs (although how many of those are there?)

What excites me:
1) Luka/Kyrie/Green/PJ can all score on the drive and can all pass and they'll always have Lively or Gafford to catch lobs so bigs don't collapse on the drive without consequence. Strangely lob threats make drives easier.
2) PJ Can put up 40+ pts and isn't as hesitant as GWill.

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-08-2024, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

My only fears with PJ:
1) He falls in love with pullup threes and we have three guys jacking it
2) He continues to suck defensively. His first two seasons he was well above average. Since then, he's given up. Hopefully he can get back the hustle.
3) At 6'7" he's not much bigger than GWill and can be abused by bigger PFs (although how many of those are there?)

What excites me:
1) Luka/Kyrie/Green/PJ can all score on the drive and can all pass and they'll always have Lively or Gafford to catch lobs so bigs don't collapse on the drive without consequence. Strangely lob threats make drives easier.
2) PJ Can put up 40+ pts and isn't as hesitant as GWill.

The last 3/4 we had that shot off the dribble was Harrison Barnes. And he didn't play well with Luka.

But Luka is a different player now. Him learning to play with Green is a sign of Growth.

rimrocker · 02-08-2024, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

My only fears with PJ:
1) He falls in love with pullup threes and we have three guys jacking it
2) He continues to suck defensively. His first two seasons he was well above average. Since then, he's given up. Hopefully he can get back the hustle.
3) At 6'7" he's not much bigger than GWill and can be abused by bigger PFs (although how many of those are there?)

What excites me:
1) Luka/Kyrie/Green/PJ can all score on the drive and can all pass and they'll always have Lively or Gafford to catch lobs so bigs don't collapse on the drive without consequence. Strangely lob threats make drives easier.
2) PJ Can put up 40+ pts and isn't as hesitant as GWill.

PJ has several inches more WS and a he'll of a lot more vertical leap than Williams.
Also faster and more athletic.
IF he plays within his role he will be fine.

Melonhead · 02-08-2024, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

My only fears with PJ:
1) He falls in love with pullup threes and we have three guys jacking it
2) He continues to suck defensively. His first two seasons he was well above average. Since then, he's given up. Hopefully he can get back the hustle.
3) At 6'7" he's not much bigger than GWill and can be abused by bigger PFs (although how many of those are there?)

Grant is around 6"3 if you go back to his college days listing at Tennessee, not sure how he was getting listed at 6'6. He's unathletic and chunky. I dont have a doubt PJ can play better defense than Grant. He can also catch balls near the rim and dunk.

PJ does like the catch and shoot 3, I would expect a 36-37%. Im cautiously optimistic, i think he will do what we thought Grant could do

EricaLubarsky · 02-08-2024, 01:45 PM

75 min

Can Wood Slanger be had for two seconds?

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-08-2024, 01:46 PM

I have a soft spot for DSJ the same way people have one for DFS. Would love it if we could get him.

Dtownsfinest · 02-08-2024, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

I have a soft spot for DSJ the same way people have one for DFS. Would love it if we could get him.

I have nothing for DFS but will always have one for Dennis. He?s a much better player now too. One guy I wish would?ve worked out here.

EricaLubarsky · 02-08-2024, 01:48 PM

Killian Hayes straight up waived

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-08-2024, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Killian Hayes straight up waived

Why did Detroit hang onto him for so long? He's been awful ever since they drafted him.

Dtownsfinest · 02-08-2024, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Why did Detroit hang onto him for so long? He's been awful ever since they drafted him.

I think they tried to get something for him he?s not that far removed from coming into the league. They started him last night I guess to showcase him and no one bit. Looked ok too. Sasser already passed him up he looks like a nice find.

EricaLubarsky · 02-08-2024, 01:51 PM

DSj is honesty perfect here.

Elite defense on guards, which is something we struggle with. Rebounds well for his size and more than anything always brings energy which is something we?ve lacked. He doesn?t score that well but if he?s playing next to Luka, all he needs to do is contain the opposing guard and make teams pay for doubles/cheats

Melonhead · 02-08-2024, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

DSj is honesty perfect here.

Elite defense on guards, which is something we struggle with. Rebounds well for his size and more than anything always brings energy which is something we?ve lacked. He doesn?t score that well but if he?s playing next to Luka, all he needs to do is contain the opposing guard and make teams pay for doubles/cheats

Of all the homecomings hes the one Ive wanted most. Thought for sure it would happen last offseason

EricaLubarsky · 02-08-2024, 02:14 PM

How we feeling with guards?

With Exum healthy and Green coming on strong (17-6-3 on 56/50/100 in February) do we need a guard? Will Exum ever be healthy again, though?

SMC0007 · 02-08-2024, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

How we feeling with guards?

With Exum healthy and Green coming on strong (17-6-3 on 56/50/100 in February) do we need a guard? Will Exum ever be healthy again, though?

ThJ and Hardy are ok backups for now. Exum is icing.

Id love to move Thj and Maxi for a guard/wing who can do more thanj Thj. Bruce Brown woukd be cool.

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-08-2024, 02:18 PM

I'd trade Hardy for Smith jr if I knew he could stay healthy, but he always seems to get hurt.

Melonhead · 02-08-2024, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

I'd trade Hardy for Smith jr if I knew he could stay healthy, but he always seems to get hurt.

True he does have his injury problems that seem to plague him every season