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Zeus · 10-30-2021, 07:23 AM

Good example of J-Kidd's concerted attempt to cede control of the ball from Luka to whomever other non-Globetrotter we have on our team:

https://twitter.com/NekiasNBA/status...238405126?s=20

We have gone from a top 5 offensive rating the past 2 years combined to a bottom 10 team this season so far. J-Kidd really is a defensive coach.

Thespiralgoeson · 10-30-2021, 04:17 PM

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We have gone from a top 5 offensive rating the past 2 years combined to a bottom 10 team this season so far. J-Kidd really is a defensive coach.

If by "defensive" you actually mean "bad," then I agree.

The moment it was announced that Kidd was replacing RC, I more or less gave up any real hope that the Mavs would do anything meaningful for the foreseeable future. Kidd is a bad NBA head coach. He had two chances already and he failed badly both times, but for reasons beyond my understanding, Cuban decided maybe three times was the charm?

Part of me wants the experiment to fail so badly that Cuban pulls the plug early and gets someone better before Luka hits free agency.

SMC0007 · 10-30-2021, 05:04 PM

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If by "defensive" you actually mean "bad," then I agree.

The moment it was announced that Kidd was replacing RC, I more or less gave up any real hope that the Mavs would do anything meaningful for the foreseeable future. Kidd is a bad NBA head coach. He had two chances already and he failed badly both times, but for reasons beyond my understanding, Cuban decided maybe three times was the charm?

Part of me wants the experiment to fail so badly that Cuban pulls the plug early and gets someone better before Luka hits free agency.

So that's what it took? You didn't give up hope when we drafted ass guys and didn't upgrade the roster notably? Not when we haven't done sht since 2011. Watched Rigid Rick roll out bogus lineups and over use middle rotation at best players as key pieces around Luka for years?

This has way less to do with Kidd and company than it does with Cuban and the old regime up top.

Thespiralgoeson · 10-30-2021, 05:09 PM

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So that's what it took? You didn't give up hope when we drafted ass guys and didn't upgrade the roster notably? Not when we haven't done sht since 2011. Watched Rigid Rick roll out bogus lineups and over use middle rotation at best players as key pieces around Luka for years?

This has way less to do with Kidd and company than it does with Cuban and the old regime up top.

Yes, that's what it took. Good talk.

SMC0007 · 10-30-2021, 05:49 PM

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Yes, that's what it took. Good talk.

Makes perfect sense then.lol. Thanks for clearing it up.

DevinHarriswillstart · 10-30-2021, 06:31 PM

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Makes perfect sense then.lol. Thanks for clearing it up.

Spiral didn't think the 2019 FA was a total failure, so there is little reasoning with him there.

This is a roster problem first and foremost. You can always get a new coach. Fixing the roster is really hard with zero assets to trade.

Melonhead · 10-30-2021, 06:54 PM

The roster isn’t Kidds fault but I don’t have any faith he can rally them to play above their heads.

Personal issues aside, can’t imagine anyone looking at his coaching career and thinking he could lead the team to a playoff series win considering it’s the same team.

SMC0007 · 10-30-2021, 07:48 PM

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Spiral didn't think the 2019 FA was a total failure, so there is little reasoning with him there.

This is a roster problem first and foremost. You can always get a new coach. Fixing the roster is really hard with zero assets to trade.

I get that it's just frustration build up and I share it too. It just seems very premature to plant a flag on Kidd being the reason there's give up atm. There's about a dozen reasons that one could have given up hope before the 5th game of a season where Luka is playing poorly and KP is out again while we still have a better record than last year at this point. Blaming any coach after 5 games where they have a winning record it's probably just because there is pre existing issues.

SMC0007 · 10-30-2021, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeus

Good example of J-Kidd's concerted attempt to cede control of the ball from Luka to whomever other non-Globetrotter we have on our team:

https://twitter.com/NekiasNBA/status...238405126?s=20

We have gone from a top 5 offensive rating the past 2 years combined to a bottom 10 team this season so far. J-Kidd really is a defensive coach.

1. No KP

2. Look at DP with the late and half asked screen

3. THJs defender reaches all the way across and looks like he connects with THJs arm...not the ball

3. He had a quick pocket bounce pass right before the double. Between the 2 defenders.

4. Bullock is supposed to already be there to screen Jokic.

5. This is a play that Igor has used before uccessfully before being here and it's worked here with us this season. I'm not convinced it is Kidd design. In fact I'm not sure many of our plays are or will be Kidd design. He may have a big role and ultimate say so in choosing the mainstays in the playback.

6. THJ can't allow such an easy turnover. We've known he isn't a ball handler and yet 500k people in the metro swore we needed to resign this guy or we were going to be fvcked.

Kidd Karma · 10-30-2021, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeus

Good example of J-Kidd's concerted attempt to cede control of the ball from Luka to whomever other non-Globetrotter we have on our team:

https://twitter.com/NekiasNBA/status...238405126?s=20

We have gone from a top 5 offensive rating the past 2 years combined to a bottom 10 team this season so far. J-Kidd really is a defensive coach.

Completely moronic. Luka needs to have the rock. He's the decision maker and best offensive player. I can understand if Lebron was in the lineup....but there is not one of that caliber in the lineup. Kidd is the guy who developed Giannis into a high usage player....why can't he see the same with Luka....the only thing I can gauge is that Kidd is using a lot of his regular season to build up a 2nd option behind Luka....and right now it's failing pitifully. In his playing days, he would take a turnover just to get a feel of his teammates. Maybe he's doing the same at this point, searching for that 2nd option. I mean last 2 years in the playoffs Luka did all he could.