Followill Update On PF Situation - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

island_dude · 04-06-2006, 04:25 PM

I was just reading the Followill report, and he reports that the Mavs never got the opportunity to work out Shawn Kemp yesterday. It was reported that Avery was going to take a look at him while in Houston visiting his family, but apparently something fell through.

Followill said he was intrigued by George Lynch, who currently lives in the Dallas area, and feels he might be the type guy Avery would like to have because he's a defensive specialist. Though his size makes him more of a 3, he could fill in at the 4 in certain situations. He feels there is a good chance some sort of move will be made.

http://www.nba.com/mavericks/news/Th...ll_Report.html

Evilmav2 · 04-06-2006, 05:07 PM

Fallowill was tooting Lynch's horn yesterday on the radio, but it sounded more like he was spouting off his own opinion rather than basing his pro-Lynch talk on any substantive signs from the team. There's a reason Lynch hasn't played anywhere this year, and it's not because he's a 6-7 stud player with an amazing and new-found ability to man the power forward position...

Lynch is an old, broken-down, 6-7 SMALL FORWARD, who was never much of a shooter, passer, or ball-handler even in his best days, and unless I've missed the memo, that is not what our Mavs currently need, and it is almost certainly not what we are going to sign. Now, if Marquis or Josh were still sitting with Griff behind the bench in street clothes, I could see us being interested in picking Lynch up- and I bet concerns about Josh, Marquis, and Griff had more to do with our working Lynch out the other week than concerns about Killer's hand injury- but currently we need a Power Forward not another Small Forward, and that's why I bet that if our Mavs don't sit on their hands, and actually sign someone, it's going to be either Kemp (unless he blew his workout) or the increasingly likely looking Laettner...

Mavfan + Ravenfan · 04-06-2006, 06:21 PM

For some reason when he said george lynch, I thought of robert traylor and got excited to get a offensive force inside. Too bad.

EricaLubarsky · 04-06-2006, 07:03 PM

unlike the rest of y'all, I like Lynch. We can slide our offense down to the 1,2, and 3 when Nowitzki is resting and Lynch is a solid 6'8" defender who plays defense strong and smart. He reminded me of Griffin the last time I saw him, but with more energy and less left in the tank.

I think I have a good grasp of what he would bring. I have no idea what Kemp would at all. Kemp could be good, he could provide a whole lot less. I guess AJ is as good an evaluator as anyone.

birdsanctuary · 04-06-2006, 07:49 PM

Where's Tractor Trailor? Oh I forgot we traded him for Dirk....

wescx · 04-06-2006, 10:06 PM

Laetner, Lynch, and Kemp all make me less comfortable than Powell.

Dortmund · 04-06-2006, 10:10 PM

I would be satisfied with either Lynch (love him), Laetner or Kemp. I think they would be more helpful than Powell

wescx · 04-06-2006, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dortmund

I would be satisfied with either Lynch (love him), Laetner or Kemp. I think they would be more helpful than Powell

Really, you think Shawn Kemp who hasn't been in the NBA since 2003 and is trying to get himself back in shape after ballooning to 300 pounds and being addicted to coke is a better option than Powell?

To each his own I guess.

birdsanctuary · 04-06-2006, 10:39 PM

I think Laetner could help us, he certainly could give us what KVH was giving us this year...which was virtually nothing...

dude1394 · 04-06-2006, 11:05 PM

the problem with powell, rawle, dj is what dirk said.

"He just has to NOT play like a rookie". In other words the games will all be so tight and tense that small errors can be big.

I'd love to have another veteran player.

Tokey41 · 04-07-2006, 12:27 AM

Powell is going to be a better player than those 3... probably not in these playoffs though but the experience will be good for him. So out of the old geezers i'd have to go with Kemp... hes big and his fouls are just as good as anyone elses.

MavsFanFinley · 04-07-2006, 12:42 AM

This is taken from the DMN game preview.

No new player: For now, the Mavericks are standing pat. Avery Johnson could not hook up with Shawn Kemp in Houston on Wednesday, and a workout may not take place at all. If the Mavs don't get a roster exception, which is looking unlikely, they won't add any player. "It's becoming more and more gloomy," Johnson said. "And it's going to start raining soon." But it won't be Reign Man, Kemp's nickname during his playing days.

mary · 04-07-2006, 12:54 AM

I wish AJ wouldn't be so damned cryptic. Its going to start raining soon?

Were we that desperate to add another player?

Was it really that important to sign Shawn effing Kemp?

Is he referring to something else?

Dtownsfinest · 04-07-2006, 01:01 AM

Yea I mean IMO this makes the Mavericks look desperate. The Mavericks can use a backup power foward but goodness we're naming Shawn Kemp, George Lynch and Christian Laettner. Guys other teams don't want. Why should the Mavs settle for them? Maybe if it was 10 years ago but now these guys are out of the league because their bodies can no longer take the contact. The Mavs would benefit in the long haul by giving those minutes to a Powell or a Benga. We gain nothing by signing these has-beens.

TripleDipping · 04-07-2006, 08:44 AM

Dang... the mystery that is Shawn Kemp missing the workout. I thought his agent said that he's "excited" about the opportunity?

atrewsfan · 04-07-2006, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

Yea I mean IMO this makes the Mavericks look desperate. The Mavericks can use a backup power foward but goodness we're naming Shawn Kemp, George Lynch and Christian Laettner. Guys other teams don't want. Why should the Mavs settle for them? Maybe if it was 10 years ago but now these guys are out of the league because their bodies can no longer take the contact. The Mavs would benefit in the long haul by giving those minutes to a Powell or a Benga. We gain nothing by signing these has-beens.

So if Dirk goes down, you'd entrust his starting minutes to an undrafted free-agent in Powell or M'Benga rather than to an experienced vet we could have picked up in FA like Rodney Rogers?

mary · 04-07-2006, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by atrewsfan

So if Dirk goes down, you'd entrust his starting minutes to an undrafted free-agent in Powell or M'Benga rather than to an experienced vet we could have picked up in FA like Rodney Rogers?

Dude...if Dirk goes down..it matters not who his replacement is. That's not what this about.

Its about spelling Dirk at the end of the 3rd quarter..4...6 minutes at the most.

MavsFanFinley · 04-07-2006, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by atrewsfan

So if Dirk goes down, you'd entrust his starting minutes to an undrafted free-agent in Powell or M'Benga rather than to an experienced vet we could have picked up in FA like Rodney Rogers?

If Dirk goes down then I think we can pretty much kiss our chances goodbye. Laettner, Rogers, Kemp, Lynch, or whoever else will not change that.

mary · 04-07-2006, 10:02 AM

Great minds think alike MFF

atrewsfan · 04-07-2006, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mary

Dude...if Dirk goes down..it matters not who his replacement is. That's not what this about.

Its about spelling Dirk at the end of the 3rd quarter..4...6 minutes at the most.

Shouldn't this really be about having a capable experienced backup who can competently sub for the starter should something happen to him? In '02-'03, we beat SAC in the playoffs because they didn't have a capable replacement for Webber when he went down, and in the next round we lost to SA because Dirk went down and we had no one to take his place. We might not be able to add the FA PF we sign to the postseason roster, but surely he could help us down the stretch under any contingencies. Rogers can play PF and he can shoot the 3 which means he has a game similar to KVH which means we could still get a modicum of O from a post guy when Dirk goes to the bench.

atrewsfan · 04-07-2006, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

The Mavs would benefit in the long haul by giving those minutes to a Powell or a Benga. We gain nothing by signing these has-beens.

I forgot to add that M'Benga is a FA after the season and we probably won't be able to afford to re-sign him. Therefore, we should naturally play him down the stretch and in the playoffs if he can help us out, but in terms of DAL accruing long-term benefits from playing him and helping him develop, that's not going to happen if he's with another team next year. We'd get the benefit of his help this year, but we'd also be helping to develop him for another team like maybe the Raps or the Sonics.

Dtownsfinest · 04-07-2006, 03:29 PM

If Dirk's out like MFF and Mary said, we're screwed. The Kings weren't screwed because they didn't have a backup for Webber when he went down lol. They were screwed because their best player went down with a injury. There's no Dirk replacements out there. Not Shawn Kemp, not Laettnern or any other has-been.

EricaLubarsky · 04-07-2006, 03:40 PM

If Dirk goes down there is always a chance that Terry, Harris, Howard and Stackhouse can carry the team to at least a win or two and can polish off a series, but we arent going to polish off any series if we dont have at least a guy to defend their 4.

atrewsfan · 04-07-2006, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

If Dirk's out like MFF and Mary said, we're screwed. The Kings weren't screwed because they didn't have a backup for Webber when he went down lol. They were screwed because their best player went down with a injury. There's no Dirk replacements out there. Not Shawn Kemp, not Laettnern or any other has-been.

Not to belabor the point as the flies are starting to swarm around this one which is my fault, but I'm not saying we need someone as good as Dirk to back him up lol. All I'm saying is that it would cushion the blow a wee bit if we had a decent backup who could step in for Dirk at PF if he went down just like if SAC had had a decent backup to Webber back then who could replicate his production to even a tiny degree. I just want to hedge our bets. I know the odds of Dirk going down during the stretch are slim, but he did go down in the playoffs before and it killed us and I'm just a little leery of Powell or M'Benga having to be forced into a starting role in the playoffs. I guess I'm just paranoid. I'll shut it now...

Five-ofan · 04-07-2006, 06:30 PM

This team doesnt make the playoffs without dirk so i doubt seriously the mavs could win in the playoffs without him. If dirk gets hurt the only chance the mavs have is if its in game 6 or 7 of the finals. Other wise they are effed no matter who they pickup. This team is a bunch of third options who need the superstar to carry them. I love jho but watch what happens to him if he becomes a focal point of a d and one of the athletic wing defenders that guards dirk guard him.

jayC · 04-07-2006, 09:55 PM

Josh Powell is the guy. He did hit a clutch ten footer tonight. Against Sacramento he finished with 12 points. The mavs don't need Kemp. Otherwise, I could see Daniels or Howard playing the four. Against a team like Phoenix we might see plenty of Daniels and Howard.

chumdawg · 04-07-2006, 10:04 PM

Please. All Powell did tonight was be careful not to mess anything up. If the Rain Man is even a shell of his former self, he's a tenfold increase over the near-rookie Powell.

Mavfan + Ravenfan · 04-07-2006, 10:05 PM

"Against a team like Phoenix we might see plenty of Daniels and Howard."
And hopefully griffin.