05-16-2008, 12:29 PM
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JJ Redick?
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Since he's wanting out of Orlando, could he possibly be an option here in Dallas? Meaning coming off the bench, but having a bigger role here than in Orlando. I don't think he could start for any time right now, but I would rather take a chance on him than keep playing George, Jones, and Stack.
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05-16-2008, 12:36 PM
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I could see him as a possibility on two conditions:
1) He comes cheap (maybe at the cost of our second round pick)
2) We're planning to trade Terry, who is a better (if slightly smaller) version of Redick at this point in their NBA careers
He could help us out with shooting, especially if we are going to lose Terry. But he hasn't done much in Orlando despite their lack of shooting guards. I think he would be better served going to a young team like Minnesota or Seattle where he could get some playing time.
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05-16-2008, 01:10 PM
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I think J.J. is strictly a shooting specialist. Maybe a Steve Kerr; at best a Kyle Korver. I think he'd be a useful player to have, if he is cheap enough.
I don't believe he will ever be a starter, and I'm not sure he will even be a regular rotation player.
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05-16-2008, 01:11 PM
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Jason Terry want to be.
I'd be all for him, if Dallas moves JET to LAC for Magette though.
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05-16-2008, 02:16 PM
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if you want a three point shooter dont trade for redick. draft chris lofton in the second round!
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05-16-2008, 02:25 PM
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omg but then we wouldn't get Jajuan smith!!
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05-16-2008, 02:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DIRKNOWITZKI
if you want a three point shooter dont trade for redick. draft chris lofton in the second round!
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Are you the REAL Dirk Nowitzki???
(just wondering, because you seem to know a lot about basketball...)
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05-16-2008, 04:01 PM
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Redick = Terry??
Terry is much better at attacking the basket, better ball handler, and more athletic.
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05-16-2008, 04:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nikeball
Redick = Terry??
Terry is much better at attacking the basket, better ball handler, and more athletic.
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No, Redick = <Terry.
both are good shooters.
Both play very little D.
Neither are great ball handlers - but I'd say Terry is a little better.
Neither are great slashers.
Redick with some serious work (and years), can get to where Terry is now. I think this would be his highest upside.
I wouldn't mind having a player like him though, IF you move Terry.
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05-16-2008, 04:23 PM
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Reddick in an offense that runs would be sick.
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05-16-2008, 04:28 PM
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Redick is nowhere near as good as JET. The comparison isn't even close. Redick is purely a catch and shoot jumpshooter. He can't create his own shot, he can't handle the ball, he's not a slasher and he doesn't draw fouls. But that's not even the reason he can't get on the court for the Magic - the guy can't guard anybody. Even when he gets to play Darko garbage time minutes, he gets lit up. It's ugly.
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05-16-2008, 04:38 PM
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but..
Better Basketball says he is the best shooter EVER.
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05-16-2008, 04:47 PM
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I see Redick being more like Matt Carroll than JET. BTW, Carroll signed a $5M/yr contract last year.
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05-16-2008, 04:57 PM
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Carroll has size, JET doesn't.
Reddick is right in between. The thing with JJ is that he thinks he's better than he really is and that's what hurts him.
JET really proved a lot to me this year (post-Devin), he started to take it to the rim more, fill the lanes on the break with Kidd at the helm, and he actually played sufficient man on man defense.
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05-16-2008, 05:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nikeball
but..
Better Basketball says he is the best shooter EVER.
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Yeah, you're right. I change my mind. We need this dude.
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05-16-2008, 10:32 PM
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Losing JET for Redick just does not seem like a good move from where I sit. Redick just lacks the skill set JET has.
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05-17-2008, 12:46 AM
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hahah mann people still dont appreciate what JET has done for this team and what he still means to this team.
Its a joke for anyone to think that Redick can bring anything close to what Jet brings. I cna see talking about Jet/Maggette...but come on Redick
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05-17-2008, 01:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AxdemxO
hahah mann people still dont appreciate what JET has done for this team and what he still means to this team.
Its a joke for anyone to think that Redick can bring anything close to what Jet brings. I cna see talking about Jet/Maggette...but come on Redick
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I don't think anyone is suggesting that we should trade JET for Redick... only that IF you trade JET, Redick might be a cheap way to replace some of his shooting off the bench.
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05-17-2008, 01:54 AM
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Carroll has size, JET doesn't.
Reddick is right in between. The thing with JJ is that he thinks he's better than he really is and that's what hurts him.
JET really proved a lot to me this year (post-Devin), he started to take it to the rim more, fill the lanes on the break with Kidd at the helm, and he actually played sufficient man on man defense.
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I agree alby, I thought jet was really playing well. It was shocking that it took two playoff losses for him to get back into the starting lineup.
Well...not shocking really....unbelievably stupid is more like it.
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05-17-2008, 10:48 AM
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Does it change your view if we get Reddick, lose Jet and get Maggette or another target player?
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05-17-2008, 10:55 AM
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In:
Maggette
Reddick
Out:
Terry
I don't think anyone can be upset at that, right?
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Originally Posted by dude1394
I agree alby, I thought jet was really playing well. It was shocking that it took two playoff losses for him to get back into the starting lineup.
Well...not shocking really....unbelievably stupid is more like it.
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Yet, some people on this board can still defend that joke of a "ko'ach"
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05-17-2008, 11:02 AM
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Just makin sure, alby.
It seemed like the point was getting lost. There is no way we would send Jet to Orlando for Reddick. Either something low-end on our roster or some 2nds and cash. Then you let him develop and get some time off the bench. THEN you trade Jet + ____ for a Maggette or whatever.
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05-17-2008, 11:08 AM
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That is correct BG.
I don't think anyone talked about a JET for Reddick deal. =]
He has two years remaining on his contract, 2 million next year and 2.8 million the year after that.
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05-17-2008, 11:19 AM
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Yeah, I think when the comparisons started people might've thought that the deal of Jet for Reddick was implied. There is NO way that's the case unless they're giving us a stronger talent to go with him as filler.
If the Mavs wanted him, it really shouldn't take that much.
Apparently there is something between Van Gundy and Reddick or that's just an assumption b/c he never plays him.
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05-17-2008, 11:52 AM
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Draft Redick!
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05-17-2008, 12:57 PM
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i would like to see reddick in here as terrys replacement though not traded straight up for each other. I like JJ's size better than JET their D is about on par the only thing is JJ is younger and bigger I would like it if the price is right
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05-17-2008, 03:04 PM
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I think people will like what Wright had to bring of he is re signed and gets a chance. I think he could be a solid 2/3 for us. Then we can get Redick or Green..or some other young guy to see if they work out. I think by the start of next season out team will be a lot younger and I think that Wright can do the job at the 2.
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05-17-2008, 08:04 PM
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I can't believe people underrate Terry this bad...
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05-17-2008, 09:03 PM
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Not understanding where this underrating came from...
We are talking about picking up JJ Redick if he comes cheap.
He would "replace" JET if and only if, JET is traded for a Maggette/Miller.
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05-17-2008, 09:27 PM
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See alby, that's why I had to clarify!
People were thinking it was a Jet for Reddick deal, haha.
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05-17-2008, 09:32 PM
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I guess people don't know how to read through threads anymore
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05-17-2008, 11:32 PM
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After looking at this thread again, all I can say is I hope that Donnie Nelson is a lot smarter than we are collectively. I doubt (hope?) Donnie would think about J.J. Reddick for for than a minute. He's a player without real NBA talent that might, in the right situation, be a luseful role player.
The Mavs need more help than they could ever get from J.J.
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05-18-2008, 12:07 AM
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JJ sucks.~~~
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05-18-2008, 12:23 AM
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A guy who gets VERY sporadic minutes, who shoots almost 40 percent from beyond the arc. Does he do much of anything else, not really. But shooting is still a favorable talent to have for the NBA, and he has it.
You put him in a steady 15 minute rotation coming off the bench, you'll get points from him.
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05-18-2008, 12:27 AM
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Mike Miller has better size and passing skills and shoots 40% ! ~~
Miller!
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05-18-2008, 12:35 AM
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Uh yeah, no one will argue with you on that. If you have your pick for Miller or Reddick, you're going to pick Miller.
But if you can't have Miller or any of your high end targets, Reddick isn't a bad option.
Come on now..
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05-18-2008, 01:39 AM
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Redick has to be a last resort option.
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05-18-2008, 07:36 AM
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Quote:
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Better Basketball says he is the best shooter EVER.
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I always laugh when I see that commercial! Its a pretty bold claim for a guy who can't get on the floor.
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05-18-2008, 04:47 PM
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I am pulling for Reddick as i love watching him play and shoot. He hasn't had a chance in Orlando at all. The bad, he plays no defense, small, not a great ball handler but he does come off picks good like Kerr and is a deadly shooter. Terry attacks and penetrates more than Reddick. Reddick is young and is a plus.
Dallas needs the following.
1. Slashers or penetraters that make layups, dunks and gets into the painted area.
2.Size.
3.Youth.
4.Physical, athletic players that can play defense/offense, both.
5.Scorring from a center or power forward within the painted area.
6.A big tall athletic shooting guard.
Reddick doesn't help but i pull for him and like him.
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05-18-2008, 05:04 PM
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I think there is more of a possibility of getting CJ Miles than Reddick... and Id rather have CJ Miles
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