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Old 10-25-2022, 08:50 PM   #81
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Ha! Yup. Luka jacks it
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Such an embarrassing loss.
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1-2, both losses by a bucket.
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2 games we wouldn?t have lost without Jalen. I?m keeping a running tally
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Is that the play Kidd drew up down 2?

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At least we don?t have Powell to yell at.

Trey Murphy, Zions backup had a HoF performance
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Can't get bailed out by Luka every game... Kleber -7, Wood +8.... I get Kleber defends the perimeter but he literally can't do shit else
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I don?t get the jacking 3 mindset. It?s much safer to post Luka up and have him take a shot there. 2.7 is plenty of time.
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Luka 37-11-7 for nothing.
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J?avale disappeared btw

Our defense is going to be a work in progress.

Brunson wasn?t the difference and stop with the couldas

We lost this game based on our inability to defend. Period.
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Pelicans were without Zion, Ingram and Herb Jones?

Man? that?s a bad bad loss.

It also shows how much deeper most teams are than the Mavs. If the Mavs lose Luka we?re a bottom 10 team.
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Every single player for the Pelicans both starters and on the bench scored in double figures except 1 (Hayes) who didn't score at all.
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J?avale disappeared btw

Our defense is going to be a work in progress.

Brunson wasn?t the difference and stop with the couldas

We lost this game based on our inability to defend. Period.
Way more than just defense. They can?t run an offense because only 3 guys can dribble and/or score.
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We lost by 2

We allowed a team to shoot 60% and 45% from three
We missed 7fTs

That is all

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J?avale disappeared btw

Our defense is going to be a work in progress.

Brunson wasn?t the difference and stop with the couldas

We lost this game based on our inability to defend. Period.
It?s not coulda when we said this was going to be the case at the time. The analytics staff told Nico to sign him to the extension before last season started.
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Stop.

He decided he wanted to be the star on NY. He?s not a Mav and didn?t want to be.
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We lost by 2

We allowed a team to shoot 60% and 45% from three
We missed 7fTs

That is all
Lol we really don?t have to do this black/white thing. Ignoring the offense is laughable especially if you expect Luka and Wood to avg 60 points per night.
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Stop.

He decided he wanted to be the star on NY. He?s not a Mav and didn?t want to be.
He wanted to sign here all the way through mid season. Mavs didn?t offer him anything until after the trade deadline. They also weren?t ever going to pay him what the Knicks ultimately offered. They should have signed him when they had a chance.
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But if we lost by D, then why play Dodo, Bullock and Green? Like that doesn't really actually prop up any of our defensive guys. It does the total opposite.
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Erica is correct that the defense was awful. It was a junky game against players that the Mavs wouldn?t have prepared for, so I?m just not that concerned about it.
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So this is the real issue if you look closely. It's not as simple as "didn't defend" or "couldn't score" with this team. The reality is if our defensive guys can't make stops, then they are almost always worthless on offense if they can't make a stand around waiting for an open three. That's Dodo, Bullock, and Green whenever he thinks the ball can go in a basket. That's why people go on about ball handlers/playmakers.

Like Luka, Spence, and Wood can all play some defense in some fashion, but our main defenders can't handle the ball or score on their own for shit. Point being that the entire team is basically completely dependent on Luka, Spence, and Wood to do something worthwhile on offense.
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It's only 3 games into the season so I'm not going to stress out over it

But Luka needs to stop jacking up 3's when you can dominate the entire game from within the 3-pt range.

Ideally I'd love to see him keep it around 4-5 per game. That's why hate when he makes one shot because then you know he's going to hoist up about 8-10 more of them MF's

Defense needs to improve and hopefully by December everyone will be on the same page.

Again it's just 3 games so need to stress
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It's only 3 games into the season so I'm not going to stress out over it

But Luka needs to stop jacking up 3's when you can dominate the entire game from within the 3-pt range.

Ideally I'd love to see him keep it around 4-5 per game. That's why hate when he makes one shot because then you know he's going to hoist up about 8-10 more of them MF's

Defense needs to improve and hopefully by December everyone will be on the same page.

Again it's just 3 games so need to stress
We?ve been asking for this for 2 straight seasons and already after 3 games. It?s never going to happen. He already has to do a lot to get his points as is, he wants some easy ones behind the arc.
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It's only 3 games into the season so I'm not going to stress out over it

But Luka needs to stop jacking up 3's when you can dominate the entire game from within the 3-pt range.

Ideally I'd love to see him keep it around 4-5 per game. That's why hate when he makes one shot because then you know he's going to hoist up about 8-10 more of them MF's

Defense needs to improve and hopefully by December everyone will be on the same page.

Again it's just 3 games so need to stress
Not really sure why they wouldn't be on the same page defensively when it's basically the same defense from the WCF. McGee is your only real change, and he didn't do much this game.

Allowing a NO team without Zion or Ingram to beat you just can't happen. Hope it's a fluke, but who knows.
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Bullock and Dorian. Yuck.

Rotations Yuck.

Starting 5 got torched and we are keeping Wood on the bench to set a defensive tone?

Clown shoes.
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Just start Wood. It solves way more problems than it creates. You still have your two best defenders in the starting lineup in Bullock and DFS. In fact, Wood will take the pressure off of them offensively.

Has any team EVER brought a 24 ppg player off the bench?
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Just start Wood. It solves way more problems than it creates. You still have your two best defenders in the starting lineup in Bullock and DFS. In fact, Wood will take the pressure off of them offensively.

Has any team EVER brought a 24 ppg player off the bench?
Our 2 best defenders are getting beat a lot. Wood maximizing Luka mins is a no brainer, but something else has to give. Everyone needs to defend better still.
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Our 2 best defenders are getting beat a lot. Wood maximizing Luka mins is a no brainer, but something else has to give. Everyone needs to defend better still.
But they overthink the big man position. It seems to be an ongoing issue now for 10+ years. Like starting Powell next to KP when KP is a fricken' 7'3 shot blocker.

Just seems like a bizarro trust issue. Trust that Wood can man the middle. Let him prove he isn't going to be a total liability on defense. Because starting a guy who is 6/4 over a guy who is 24/9 is just plain stupid.
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But they overthink the big man position. It seems to be an ongoing issue now for 10+ years. Like starting Powell next to KP when KP is a fricken' 7'3 shot blocker.

Just seems like a bizarro trust issue. Trust that Wood can man the middle. Let him prove he isn't going to be a total liability on defense. Because starting a guy who is 6/4 over a guy who is 24/9 is just plain stupid.
Trust can only go so far. Wood has to show up on defense to earn that trust.

It's going to take some patience and figuring out who can plays better together and what that best 5 might be...but that being said, Wood is your 2nd best player and obviously (and historically albeit a small sample size) the best combo a net rating among 2 players on the court at the same time.

3 games in, everyone take a break. It was pretty obvious the Mavs didn't have their heads on right to start this one and dug a hole they managed to get out of, but not winning many games playing defense like that.

I suspect our known commodities to start picking up their play. Maxi is actually balling out for us on defense and effort with no one following suit. DFS has been quiet where we need him to be more of an enforcer, I'm locking your best dude down type. Then again, it would also help if he and Bullock could hit wide open 3s...

I think it ends up shaking out to be Luka/Dinwiddie/Bullock/DFS/Wood with THJ and either McGee or Maxi being the variable depending on matchups or how they end up shaking out these rotations.

I'm also going to guess they pull a Nelson Cruz/Orioles and promise the starting role to McGee only to eventually move him to DH/the bench where he thrives. McGee has been overrated here (myself included) in that he's an excellent role player and gives needed size, but does not have the other skills that necessitate starting. The guy can get his 15 mins off the bench.
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Trust can only go so far. Wood has to show up on defense to earn that trust.
I'm sorry, but a guy who is second only to Luka in PER in the entire NBA doesn't need to earn any sort of trust to start games. They can find other ways to cover for him on defense.
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I'm sorry, but a guy who is second only to Luka in PER in the entire NBA doesn't need to earn any sort of trust to start games. They can find other ways to cover for him on defense.

Im going to repeat that. Currently in the league, the top 2 guys in PER IN THE NBA:

Luka
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And we're 1-2, masterful work. Rotations gotta be fixed soon. This team could be so much better, but its still super early.
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saw a lot of missed opportunities in last nights game.
Giving up 40 points in the first qtr. and us playing uninspired in the 1st.
Coaching decisions by Kidd with regard to Wood playing time.
Bullock and DFS having a bad night.
Being up 9 points with under 10 min left to play and more than a handful of bad offensive decisions.
Dinwiddie almost dribbling the entire clock more than a few times.
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But they overthink the big man position. It seems to be an ongoing issue now for 10+ years. Like starting Powell next to KP when KP is a fricken' 7'3 shot blocker.

Just seems like a bizarro trust issue. Trust that Wood can man the middle. Let him prove he isn't going to be a total liability on defense. Because starting a guy who is 6/4 over a guy who is 24/9 is just plain stupid.
I mean McGee hasn't been the defender I hoped he would thus far. I'd still honor the promise to start him but after 3 games, I'd sit Bullock and bring him in with THJ and Josh. They seem hell bent on SD starting and bringing him back in to run the point when Luka sits.

Nothing changed in regards of 2 way players. Dfs and Bullock are 100% reliant on being set up. This lineup isn't setting any tone defensively. It seems to be purely based on tenure with Dfs, Bullock and a lure to get McGee.
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The Mavs simply shit the bed. But credit to the Pelicans as they played with urgency and wanted the game more than the Mavs. A 3-3 record n October appears to be a reality for these Mavs.

It's a long season.
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I'm sorry, but a guy who is second only to Luka in PER in the entire NBA doesn't need to earn any sort of trust to start games. They can find other ways to cover for him on defense.
Ok...I was specifically speaking to a new guy on a new team that has an idea of what they want to do defensively to start games.

It's obvious that hasn't quite worked, but we are also nitpicking a very small sample size.

A new player absolutely has to adjust and earn the trust of their new team. Now it's up to Kidd to recognize and make the necessary adjustments himself.
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saw a lot of missed opportunities in last nights game.
Giving up 40 points in the first qtr. and us playing uninspired in the 1st.
Coaching decisions by Kidd with regard to Wood playing time.
Bullock and DFS having a bad night.
Being up 9 points with under 10 min left to play and more than a handful of bad offensive decisions.
Dinwiddie almost dribbling the entire clock more than a few times.
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I mean McGee hasn't been the defender I hoped he would thus far. I'd still honor the promise to start him but after 3 games, I'd sit Bullock and bring him in with THJ and Josh. They seem hell bent on SD starting and bringing him back in to run the point when Luka sits.

Nothing changed in regards of 2 way players. Dfs and Bullock are 100% reliant on being set up. This lineup isn't setting any tone defensively. It seems to be purely based on tenure with Dfs, Bullock and a lure to get McGee.

Dinwiddie, man...that was the part of the game I got the most annoyed at. He was dribbling the effing air out of the ball and seemingly had no idea how to run point. He's absolutely got to figure it out, because we all thought we needed a 3rd ballhandler when we need our 2nd one to actually do his job. He had a pretty good game but man, it was hard watching him run the offense at times.
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I know I?m beating a dead horse, but not signing JB to an extension and the 2020 draft will go down as the biggest blunders in Mavs history since letting Nash walk and not keeping the 2011 team together. For all the talk of Cuban being a great owner his legacy has been 100% bailed out by Donnie?s international scouting. If we don?t win a championship with Luka we will always be left wondering what if?
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