01-22-2023, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
Anyone who thinks Josh Green is untouchable is as bad as the FO. Guy is fun and energetic...and just not that good.
This isn't just a sour puss loser post either. Some people treat him like he is the best thing to happen to the team since we drafted Dirk and Luka.
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Honestly other than Luka, he IS the best player we've had on the team.
Which is really fucking sad.
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01-22-2023, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
Honestly other than Luka, he IS the best player we've had on the team.
Which is really fucking sad.
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But I mean I like Hardy, but no way would that keep me from seriously upgrading the team.
And yes, it's the FO's fault for this, no question.
Oh and Hardy 0 minutes. It's just shocking how the media narrative is Kidd plays Green in way Rick didn't, and yet they are doing the exact same thing to Hardy. I'd rather move him to a team that plays him and doesn't take four years to develop him.
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01-22-2023, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
But I mean I like Hardy, but no way would that keep me from seriously upgrading the team.
And yes, it's the FO's fault for this, no question.
Oh and Hardy 0 minutes. It's just shocking how the media narrative is Kidd plays Green in way Rick didn't, and yet they are doing the exact same thing to Hardy. I'd rather move him to a team that plays him and doesn't take four years to develop him.
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Green has become a solid NBA player and I trust him to defend and take smart shots
I can't say that about Hardy because he seems to only look to shoot 1st much like THJ
Now if I had to choose to Hardy and THJ sure give me Hardy but I'm not taking him over Green
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01-22-2023, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Dallas41
Green has become a solid NBA player and I trust him to defend and take smart shots
I can't say that about Hardy because he seems to only look to shoot 1st much like THJ
Now if I had to choose to Hardy and THJ sure give me Hardy but I'm not taking him over Green
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Of course we aren't going to draft and develop the exact same player. We have up two future seconds knowing exactly who Hardy was. Having a shoot first player on your roster doesn't make them bad.
Hardy's ceiling is much higher than Green's. I'm not even sure that is debatable.
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01-22-2023, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
Of course we aren't going to draft and develop the exact same player. We have up two future seconds knowing exactly who Hardy was. Having a shoot first player on your roster doesn't make them bad.
Hardy's ceiling is much higher than Green's. I'm not even sure that is debatable.
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They could both provide help if given the chance. Different players for sure, and they would compliment each other well enough. 90% of us have been saying, this team is going nowhere fast as built, so develop the fn talent.
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Last edited by SMC0007; 01-22-2023 at 08:37 PM.
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01-22-2023, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SMC0007
They could both provide help if given the chance. Different players for sure, and they would compliment each other well enough. 90% of us have been saying, this team is going nowhere fast as built, so develop the fn talent.
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Yeah, the self-inflicted creation the FO has done has made us all think Josh and Hardy will save the day.
The reality is that when the deadlines comes around, teams are going to want both of those guys for the very reasons we want to keep them. And if it nets us a real difference maker, then you can't have them off the table.
We don't have any other assets to trade that teams will want to get that guy other than picks.
THJ and DFS isn't getting you OG.
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01-23-2023, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
Yeah, the self-inflicted creation the FO has done has made us all think Josh and Hardy will save the day.
The reality is that when the deadlines comes around, teams are going to want both of those guys for the very reasons we want to keep them. And if it nets us a real difference maker, then you can't have them off the table.
We don't have any other assets to trade that teams will want to get that guy other than picks.
THJ and DFS isn't getting you OG.
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Difference makers aren't coming. Mark that. And I don't want to toss either of them in on guys who are minimal improvements.
It's sad that I'm now at, just move Dfs and Bullock so youth can develop, and move DP because ....pow!
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01-23-2023, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
Of course we aren't going to draft and develop the exact same player. We have up two future seconds knowing exactly who Hardy was. Having a shoot first player on your roster doesn't make them bad.
Hardy's ceiling is much higher than Green's. I'm not even sure that is debatable.
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Fairly debatable, to be sure. Both guys are young and provide different skill sets that should be complimenting each other in more minutes. Let's not veer towards shitting on our own young potential players to prop up another. I don't think that is what you are doing just yet, but to say it's not debatable is incorrect, imo
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