03-17-2021, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Zeus
I expect Saddiq Bey to be a solid contributor in our playoff run this year.. Oh dang it, we forgot to draft him.
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And I expect Mavs fans to continue to bitch about every move the FO makes despite the fact that since 2017 (they year we started getting "good" draft picks) we've added Luka Doncic, Jalen Brunson, Kristaps Porzingis (by way of Dennis Smith Jr.), and three promising rookies this year.
Edit: By the way hindsight is 20/20. Please show me where you were clamoring for Saddiq Bey prior to the draft.
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03-17-2021, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by tap2390
And I expect Mavs fans to continue to bitch about every move the FO makes despite the fact that since 2017 (they year we started getting "good" draft picks) we've added Luka Doncic, Jalen Brunson, Kristaps Porzingis (by way of Dennis Smith Jr.), and three promising rookies this year.
Edit: By the way hindsight is 20/20. Please show me where you were clamoring for Saddiq Bey prior to the draft.
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Saddiq Bey was popular on the wish list for members here. I can't speak for Zues specifically but many wanted him. I was hoping for Bane and he actually gained momentum on here as well. Those 2 guys are doing quite well and contributing already so I can understand peoples frustration. The is hope our rooks will end up being successful, which will have to include fighting thru Ricks odd rotations to get a chance.
There's a joke somewhere in how we get the brother or cousin of good players, not the actual good players. Tyler Bey, Seth Curry, Kostos Ant.
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03-18-2021, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by tap2390
And I expect Mavs fans to continue to bitch about every move the FO makes despite the fact that since 2017 (they year we started getting "good" draft picks) we've added Luka Doncic, Jalen Brunson, Kristaps Porzingis (by way of Dennis Smith Jr.), and three promising rookies this year.
Edit: By the way hindsight is 20/20. Please show me where you were clamoring for Saddiq Bey prior to the draft.
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I'm not paid to make those decisions but get to complain about them from here for free just like you can do your job of protecting all decisions always.
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03-18-2021, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeus
I'm not paid to make those decisions but get to complain about them from here for free just like you can do your job of protecting all decisions always.
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I don’t agree with a lot of stuff the FO does. I don’t agree with a lot of what Carlisle does.
That being said, I’m not going to judge any rookies from a half season sample when they barely had a training camp or chance to get acclimated. No one has any idea who’s going to blossom and who’s going to bust. Saddiq Bey is having a great rookie season. Cool. So did Michael Carter Williams. So did Dennis Smith Jr. Bringing it up every thread isn’t helpful or in any way a meaningful contribution.
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03-18-2021, 11:16 PM
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I'm sure that Carlisle wants rookies to "prove" they deserve minutes. And with the VERY limited amount of practice time that is available this season, there is very little opportunity
When you have a suck team like the Pistons, it is a little less important to have rookies earn their minutes
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03-19-2021, 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MFFL
I'm sure that Carlisle wants rookies to "prove" they deserve minutes. And with the VERY limited amount of practice time that is available this season, there is very little opportunity
When you have a suck team like the Pistons, it is a little less important to have rookies earn their minutes
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Why does everyone assume only bad teams play rookies?
I just posted a list of rookies that are getting quality minutes for playoff contending teams this year.
Do some research fellas their are some solid rookies who were not lottery picks that are consistently getting rotation minutes on teams that are currently equal to or better than our Mavs.
Did those rookies have more practice time than the Mavs rookies or more training camp time?
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03-19-2021, 09:50 AM
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Do some research fellas their are some solid rookies who were not lottery picks that are consistently getting rotation minutes on teams that are currently equal to or better than our Mavs.
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For someone who accuses others for not reading posts, you sure glossed over mine
I said CARLISLE wants rookies to "prove" they deserve minutes
I might not agree with it but HE is the coach and that is one of HIS quirks. Carlisle only seems to play cerebral point guards as rookies - see Brunson and Yogi
If you want to use this as a point to replace Carlisle then that's another discussion but this is the way he is
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06-25-2021, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MFFL
For someone who accuses others for not reading posts, you sure glossed over mine
I said CARLISLE wants rookies to "prove" they deserve minutes
I might not agree with it but HE is the coach and that is one of HIS quirks. Carlisle only seems to play cerebral point guards as rookies - see Brunson and Yogi
If you want to use this as a point to replace Carlisle then that's another discussion but this is the way he is
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Carlisle HATES unforced turnovers. Who does he especially hate those from? PG's. Who is likely to have lots of unforced turnovers? Rookie guards. Hard to really fault that mindset...but easy to see how it impacts people getting minutes.
You also have to consider he was never in a 'this is a rebuild year' situation. Always trying to win. Playing those rookies, while perhaps beneficial long term, was mostly never going to improve the Mavs ability to win now. In different situations, his rotations might well look different.
You also have to look at what the Mavs needed at the time. Take Green, for example. Mavs struggled offensively quite a bit this year. Was he going to help or hurt them offensively? Hurt, clearly. That alone really limited his playing opportunities. Where could he then best develop his skills? G league. Which is where he went. It should also be noted he didn't exactly tear it up there, either.
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03-31-2021, 10:52 AM
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#unconfirmedreports #anonymoussources
Mavericks allegedly potentially possibly interested in Knicks' center Mitchell Robinson:
Mitchell Robinson’s contract saga with Knicks now seems clear-cut
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To solidify his future, the Knicks had a chance to not exercise the team option and allow him to become a restricted free agent. Then the Knicks could match any offer that wasn’t deemed outrageous.
By doing so, it would prevent the Knicks from the risk of losing Robinson as an unrestricted free agent in 2022, with one NBA source believing Dallas will have an eye out for the center
Saturday’s injury has changed matters considerably. The Knicks don’t know enough about the player they have, or about his durability after undergoing two surgeries this season and various ailments in his previous two seasons
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Robinson's season has ended with surgery on a broken foot, four games after returning from a six-week layoff for a broken hand.
Knicks had developed a better-than-average 2-man center rotation with Robinson and Nerlens "Press Buffet Hot Dog" Noel, the latter of whom is actually making a reasonable contribution to an improved Knicks team this year.
Robinson would be the right type of player to complement Porzingis in the frontcourt-- elite-ish athlete, very good movement, good defender, elite shot-blocker who was just beginning to learn to challenge shots without getting into foul trouble. In addition, he was almost exclusively an opportunistic scorer--converting lobs, and hoovering up offensive boards for put-back dunks, so he would not have competed with Porzingis for touches or shots. Robinson did not have a discernible offensive move beyond dunking, however, let alone 3-point range, so debatable as to what kind of minutes he'd get under Future Former-Guy.
Robinson has shown superior athleticism, and had improved significantly under Thibs. Damned shame about the injury, which kind of puts a damper on the NYKs' seasons and any serious playoff aspirations.
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