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Old 09-16-2003, 10:41 AM   #1
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what were the ratings for last nights game?
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Fast National ratings for Monday, Sept. 15, 2003
An overtime "Monday Night Football" game carried ABC to a ratings win Monday, while The WB debuted its Monday lineup to strong numbers.

ABC averaged an 11.8 rating/19 share in primetime to win the night. CBS was second at 7.8/12, followed by NBC, 4.3/7, and FOX, 3.7/6. The WB scored a strong 6.9/10 in the metered markets, and UPN averaged 3.8/5.

Among adults 18-49, ABC led with a 6.5 rating. CBS averaged 3.7, FOX 2.6 and NBC 2.5.

The premiere of "Primetime Monday," 8.2/14, won the 8 p.m. hour for NBC. The season debut of "7th Heaven" posted a 7.9/12 to put The WB in second. CBS was third with reruns of "Yes, Dear," 5.6/9, and "Still Standing," 6.0/9. NBC's "Fear Factor" was fourth. The premieres of "The Parkers," 3.6/5, and "Eve," 4.0/6, put UPN in fifth, ahead of a repeat of "The O.C." on FOX.

At 9 p.m., the first hour of "Monday Night Football" earned a 14.0/21. CBS moved up to second with a 45-minute "Everybody Loves Raymond" and the start of "CSI: Miami," averaging 9.0/14 for the hour. The WB stayed solid with the season premiere of "Everwood," 5.8/8. "Paradise Hotel" finished fourth for FOX, beating the season premieres of "Girlfriends," 3.8/5, and "Half and Half," 3.6/5, on UPN. NBC trailed with a "Third Watch" rerun.

The "Monday Night Football" game between Dallas and the New York Giants averaged 13.1/21 for the 10 p.m. hour. CBS was second with "CSI: Miami," 8.5/14. NBC aired a second episode of "Third Watch," 4.0/7.

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Thanks for posting Ok.... How about the DFW area? Are those posted yet?
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That was a great game. This season is weird the cowboys are ranked 1st in total offense and 18th in total defense.
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That was a great game. This season is weird the cowboys are ranked 1st in total offense and 18th in total defense.


WTF? How in the hell did that happen?

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That was a great game. This season is weird the cowboys are ranked 1st in total offense and 18th in total defense.
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Quincy Carter is how it happened, hahaha. The offense do seem to move the ball, but the playcalling gets conservative within the 30 for some reason.
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i really didn't see alot of problems with the play calling for the most part. i thought the cowboys got a little conservative when they had the big lead in the fourth...but, i wouldn't put the sputtering offense on the shoulders of the coaches
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Actually I do not mind being conservative once you have the lead. Bill Parcells has never lost a game when leading by 12 or more going into fourth quarter. He lost only two games out of like 50 when leading the opponent by atleast 16 points.

If he decided to be conservative , he sure does have a reason to do so. Quincy has to play like this for atleast a few more games for Bill to trust him and be aggressive on the play calling.

I would rather take 3 points than an interception. I am sure with this performance Quincy has certainly started a new hope for most of the cowboy fans. But he still has to do it consistently enough to earn his respect. I do give mad props to quincy for his performance yesterday.
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i disagree there murphy, i put it on the play calling. why run the ball when hambrick was averaging what 3yards a carry? why not let quincy try and throw it, or run it like he did for the first TD. or why not call that play that set up cambells catch and run that led to the game winning fg in OT? what i seen was them, get within the 30 and try to run the ball. i know parcells wants to establish a running game, but atleast let quincy throw to the endzone a few times. i wont put it all on the coaches shoulders of course, but i have to most of it on them since they call the plays.
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i disagree there murphy, i put it on the play calling. why run the ball when hambrick was averaging what 3yards a carry? why not let quincy try and throw it, or run it like he did for the first TD. or why not call that play that set up cambells catch and run that led to the game winning fg in OT? what i seen was them, get within the 30 and try to run the ball. i know parcells wants to establish a running game, but atleast let quincy throw to the endzone a few times. i wont put it all on the coaches shoulders of course, but i have to most of it on them since they call the plays.
I understand you are a qcarr fan and probably want to want qcarr to have all the touches. As I said before Bill knows more than any of us about the players he got. If he did not design a play for Quincy to throw it there has to be a reason. My guess is, he wants to see more consistency from Quincy before being aggressive. As a cowboy fan, all I am concerned about is to get a W.

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Well, I just thought he was consistent enough against the Giants to let him go to the endzone a few times.
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Who says he didn't have the chance and just didn't do it? You always say how all knowing Bill Parcells is and how much faith you have in him, surely you aren't second guessing master Bill already?
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Give it a rest drbio, it wont work. Did you watch the game, and how the playcalling was within the 30?
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Qsparefan- Of course I saw it. Give it a rest? What, rest from making factual statements? You should try it (making factual statements). Every play has several options. Who is to say Qok didn't choose to make the plays he made? Are you second guessing Qok's playmaking ability or your coaches gameplan? You certainly aren't qualified to do so. None of us here are. The fact is that you just don't know. I certainly would have liked to see a few throws into the endzone, but your blanket out of the butt assertion that he didn't get the chance to do it is most probably false as usual.

So what is it? Do you question Qok's playmaking ability or coach Parcells gameplan?
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Qcarfan do you realize Q already threw the ball 40 times? Did you want him to throw 100 times? I think Bill was doing the right thing, when you have such a commanding lead as the cowboys did you are supposed to run the clock down. As for them being to conservative within the 30, would you rather have 3 points than INT? Once you get within the 30 the defense bunches up much more so there is a much higher chance of an INT.
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The fact that you say "most probably" means what?
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Stop ignoring the question (which is your famous trademark).

Most probably confuses you how? Get a damn dictionary or go here if you are so confused.


So what is it? Are you questioning your favorite love's playmaking ability or coach Parcells game plan?
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Quincy was throwing the ball pretty well against the Giants, just wish he could have went to the endzone a few times is all. Instead of running it so much, especially when Troy Ham avgd little to nothing on his carries.
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not confused, maybe if you wouldnt contradict yourself time and time again it wouldn't be so hard for anyone to understand there drbio.
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There is no contradiction there. Only plain english that apparently you cannot grasp. Please...do explain that one....and BTW, quit ignoring the question...it will not go away despite your best effort to change the direction of the thread. Your feeble attampts at backtracking off the question aren't working.

Do you question Qok's playmkaing ability or Coach Parcell gameplan? It's easy to answer really. This is not rocket science.
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It's not ignoring anything smart guy, it's just simply the opinion I stated which I wish Quincy couldv'e went to the endzone a few times. Do you really think Coach Parcells gameplan was to go up that many points on the Giants? I am sure his gameplan changed from time to time in the game, the way the game went. I don't blame him for kicking the FGs, just wish Quincy couldv'e went to the endzone, do you understand that? And what does Quincys playmaking abilities have to do with it, he runs the plays that the coach calls. It's really quite simple drbio, afterall it is not rocket science.
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not confused, maybe if you wouldnt contradict yourself time and time again it wouldn't be so hard for anyone to understand there drbio.

wow, what a great retort.
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You have still not answered doc's question.

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Since this thread is called ratings take a look at the cowboys ratings on CBS Sportsline:
TEAM RATING QB SCORE COVER PRESS WIN%
1. Buffalo Bills, 1st AFC EAST 111.92 3rd 6th 26th 30th 1.000
2. Minnesota Vikings, 1st NFC NORTH 110.68 10th 7th 18th 24th 1.000
3. Washington Redskins, 1st NFC EAST 110.66 6th 8th 27th 23rd 1.000
4. Kansas City Chiefs, 1st AFC WEST 109.56 15th 20th 6th 15th 1.000
5. Seattle Seahawks, 1st NFC WEST 106.12 28th 16th 1st 17th 1.000
6. Pittsburgh Steelers, 1st AFC NORTH 105.31 2nd 4th 5th 22nd .500
7. Indianapolis Colts, 1st AFC SOUTH 104.72 17th 11th 7th 31st 1.000
8. Dallas Cowboys, 2nd NFC EAST 100.61 5th 15th 4th 18th .500
9. San Francisco 49ers, 2nd NFC WEST 100.21 9th 18th 3rd 5th .500
10. New York Giants, 2nd NFC EAST 99.02 20th 2nd 2nd 6th .500
11. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2nd NFC SOUTH 98.71 1st 28th 16th 7th .500
12. Denver Broncos, 1st AFC WEST 98.16 29th 5th 10th 19th 1.000
13. St. Louis Rams, 2nd NFC WEST 97.18 4th 19th 19th 10th .500
14. New Orleans Saints, 2nd NFC SOUTH 93.98 11th 3rd 22nd 14th .500
15. Carolina Panthers, 1st NFC SOUTH 90.33 31st 23rd 24th 8th 1.000
16. Atlanta Falcons, 2nd NFC SOUTH 88.17 22nd 14th 25th 2nd .500
17. Green Bay Packers, 2nd NFC NORTH 87.87 21st 10th 12th 21st .500
18. Detroit Lions, 2nd NFC NORTH 87.12 18th 22nd 8th 25th .500
19. Houston Texans, 2nd AFC SOUTH 86.25 16th 24th 23rd 13th .500
20. Miami Dolphins, 2nd AFC EAST 85.26 12th 12th 29th 28th .500
21. Oakland Raiders, 3rd AFC WEST 83.61 24th 26th 11th 20th .500
22. Tennessee Titans, 2nd AFC SOUTH 81.73 14th 21st 32nd 27th .500
23. New England Patriots, 2nd AFC EAST 81.14 23rd 29th 17th 26th .500
24. Cincinnati Bengals, 3rd AFC NORTH 75.98 7th 1st 20th 32nd .000
25. Baltimore Ravens, 1st AFC NORTH 75.54 32nd 13th 15th 11th .500
26. New York Jets, 4th AFC EAST 73.24 8th 27th 28th 1st .000
27. San Diego Chargers, 4th AFC WEST 69.11 25th 9th 9th 16th .000
28. Jacksonville Jaguars, 4th AFC SOUTH 68.83 13th 25th 30th 9th .000
29. Philadelphia Eagles, 4th NFC EAST 65.46 26th 30th 13th 3rd .000
30. Arizona Cardinals, 4th NFC WEST 60.78 19th 17th 31st 29th .000
31. Cleveland Browns, 3rd AFC NORTH 60.65 27th 31st 14th 12th .000
32. Chicago Bears, 4th NFC NORTH 53.11 30th 32nd 21st 4th .000

QCar why because Quincy is probably gaining support from Bill if he keeps playing well he will call more passing plays in the redzone. Yeah I know kind of wordy. As far as sure points vs. picks even the great steve superior runs more then anyone else in the redzone. Two words for Qcar and Drubs trust in Big Bill.
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Please...answer the other question. How was it contradictory? Oh yeah...you cannot.


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It's not ignoring anything smart guy, it's just simply the opinion I stated which I wish Quincy couldv'e went to the endzone a few times. Do you really think Coach Parcells gameplan was to go up that many points on the Giants? I am sure his gameplan changed from time to time in the game, the way the game went. I don't blame him for kicking the FGs, just wish Quincy couldv'e went to the endzone, do you understand that? And what does Quincys playmaking abilities have to do with it, he runs the plays that the coach calls. It's really quite simple drbio, afterall it is not rocket science.
Of course it was his gameplan to go up by many points. Are you retarded? I guess you would like for Parcell to develop a gameplan that would consistently allow us to play from behind? Noone mentioned anything about him going for FG's so don't try to cloud the issue. Noone disagrees that it would have been nice to have seen Qok throw into the endzone (refer to the gameday thread). Your comments implied that Qok did not have the opportunity to throw the ball into the endzone. That is just not true. When you ask what Qok's playmaking abilities have to do with it, did you consider that he could have checked off other options (such as throwing an end zone pass) preferring to throw the ball to a shorter route? Do you not understand that he has several options many plays on how to react? Will you continue to imply that he did not have the opportunity to throw intothe endzone because of the playcalling?

If you do, it is only because you are either stupid, question the playmaking ability of Qok, or question the playcalling/game plan of coach Parcells, who earlier you hung your jock on. You just don't get logic do you?
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I am through with it drbio, you obviously aren't able to understand and I really don't feel like arguing with you. GOOD GAME QUINCY, keep it up!
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Way to throw in the towel. It's probably best since you obviously cannot answer the questions.
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whatever you say, it's just not worth my time arguing with you on a message board. Quincy did the talking for me
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I thought you were through with it? Please, keep your word or don't pull statements like that out of your ass like you do other statements. geeeeeez.....



Qok did your talking? Wow, that made sense. That out of the ass statement was completely germaine to the topic. Did Qok complain about not getting the opportunity to throw into the endzone? Maybe he could tell us your opinion on the question of whether or not you feel his playmaking abilities are subpar or if you rather fault Bill Parcells game plan abilties. We are all just giddy with anticipation on your next post even though you are "through with it".


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Okay qcarr fan: you have not answered the doc's question yet.

Let me give my position again:

Bill Parcells is 60-0 when leading the game by atleast 12 points going into 4th quarter.

Bill Parcells is 48-2 when leading by atleast 16 in a game.

Hard to question the playcalling of a legendary coach. As I said before, Bill probably needs to see more of quincy before being aggressive in the playcalling at the endzone. As far as I know Bill Parcells has said that he will know whether Quincy is the man or not after 6 weeks into the regular season. If Quincy can get the job done and be accurate till then, you can expect more play calling for quincy at the endzone. There are a lot of things that go into what play is being called - time on the clock, trust on the qb, quality at the WR position, quality of RB etc etc. Bill gave us the best chance to win a game.

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I liked that. Trust in Parcells.

And if Parcells trust in Quincy, trust in Quincy too.

If Parcells changes to other QB, trust in the other QB.

If Parcells changes to whatever, trust in whatever.

Why? Because this coach is capable.

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JayC- we saw that post in the other thread. And, Trust in Big Bill is four words...not two. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]


Chiwas - noone is not trusting in Bill Parcells. It's just that one poser here is using that as a justification for an argument and then the same guy contradicts himself in the next breath. That is the only time Parcells has been used i nthat fashion.
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