07-02-2015, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by sefant77
Probably Felton for Hibbert...so we would kind of "just" pay 10m for Hibbert....
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I'd almost rather have that situation than get tied up with TC for several years. Hibbert is a huge expiring that could come in handy around TDL and is certainly serviceable.
If there is any way we could throw Harris in the deal and get Hill back in return that would solve another problem.
Add Wes Matthews and we'd be finished.
Hill/Calathes?
Matthews/Anderson
Parsons/RJ
Dirk/Powell/CV
Hibbert/Withey?/Sarge
Not ideal but could probably compete for a PO spot.
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07-02-2015, 12:35 PM
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I'd almost rather have that situation than get tied up with TC for several years. Hibbert is a huge expiring that could come in handy around TDL and is certainly serviceable.
If there is any way we could throw Harris in the deal and get Hill back in return that would solve another problem.
Add Wes Matthews and we'd be finished.
Hill/Calathes?
Matthews/Anderson
Parsons/RJ
Dirk/Powell/CV
Hibbert/Withey?/Sarge
Not ideal but could probably compete for a PO spot.
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That team would not make the Playoffs.
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07-02-2015, 12:50 PM
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That team would not make the Playoffs.
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Yeah in the West there is no way we make playoffs with that lineup.
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07-02-2015, 01:40 PM
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That team would not make the Playoffs.
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Can you think of a better plan B if DJ doesn't sign with us?
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07-02-2015, 03:09 PM
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Can you think of a better plan B if DJ doesn't sign with us?
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They aren't sweetening the deal with George hill who makes 9 or so million per year and trading that for Devin Harris
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07-02-2015, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by rimrocker
I'd almost rather have that situation than get tied up with TC for several years.Hibbert is a huge expiring that could come in handy around TDL and is certainly serviceable.
If there is any way we could throw Harris in the deal and get Hill back in return that would solve another problem.
Add Wes Matthews and we'd be finished.
Hill/Calathes?
Matthews/Anderson
Parsons/RJ
Dirk/Powell/CV
Hibbert/Withey?/Sarge
Not ideal but could probably compete for a PO spot.
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Lol. No.
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07-02-2015, 02:45 PM
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Lol. No.
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I don't think you guys are seeing the big picture.
I'm not saying Hibbert is better than Chandler by any means but this team would still be in shambles if resigning Tyson to a long-term deal would have been our best off-season move.
Hibbert gives us a big man in the middle without a long-term commitment.
Certainly not plan A but not a bad plan B if this team isn't planning to rebuild anytime soon.
If the FO makes a knee-jerk reaction move to get a big I'd rather it be someone we can easily dump at TDL or the end of the season.
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07-02-2015, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by rimrocker
I don't think you guys are seeing the big picture.
I'm not saying Hibbert is better than Chandler by any means but this team would still be in shambles if resigning Tyson to a long-term deal would have been our best off-season move.
Hibbert gives us a big man in the middle without a long-term commitment.
Certainly not plan A but not a bad plan B if this team isn't planning to rebuild anytime soon.
If the FO makes a knee-jerk reaction move to get a big I'd rather it be someone we can easily dump at TDL or the end of the season.
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If the plan isn't to rebuild, I would rather they have the center position solved at 13 million than have another 1 year solution. Plan B was obviously Tyson.
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07-02-2015, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by FreshJive
Lol. No.
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Still waiting on some ideas for a plan B roster.
The options are becoming few if we don't sign DJ.
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07-02-2015, 03:03 PM
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Still waiting on some ideas for a plan B roster.
The options are becoming few if we don't sign DJ.
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I'm still hoping plan A works.
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07-02-2015, 12:39 PM
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Sense from some is DeAndre Jordan race is now even between Clippers and Mavs. It was "90-10" for the Clippers before Parsons got involved.
Could you imagine if the Rockets had matched Parsons last offseason? Parsons is literally the only hopeful future piece we currently have.
EDIT: I mean, I like Anderson, but he isn't in the same realm talent-wise as Parsons. I mean't someone you can actually build around.
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07-02-2015, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
Arash Markazi @ ArashMarkazi
Sense from some is DeAndre Jordan race is now even between Clippers and Mavs. It was "90-10" for the Clippers before Parsons got involved.
Could you imagine if the Rockets had matched Parsons last offseason? Parsons is literally the only hopeful future piece we currently have.
EDIT: I mean, I like Anderson, but he isn't in the same realm talent-wise as Parsons. I mean't someone you can actually build around.
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If he was the factor for DJ to sign here than i bet Dirk will pay him his meals next season not the other way around lol.
But its not looking too good right now.
The only hope i have is that Tyson signed so early before DJ (maybe he knows the Mavs get DJ and has no place here).
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07-02-2015, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
Arash Markazi @ ArashMarkazi
Sense from some is DeAndre Jordan race is now even between Clippers and Mavs. It was "90-10" for the Clippers before Parsons got involved.
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That's insane. Parsons the Hero. If he single-handedly gets Deandre here, we should hang his jersey in the rafters tomorrow.
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07-02-2015, 01:39 PM
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Wonder if Parsons will want to be traded if we don't land DJ or anyone near his caliber.
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07-02-2015, 12:56 PM
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Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine 15 Sek.Vor 16 Sekunden
DeAndre Jordan is in the midst of getting a face-to-face pitch from Phil Jackson and the rest of the Knicks' contingent as we speak
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07-02-2015, 01:48 PM
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Hibbert is trash. Complete garbage. I rather sign Bismack Biyombo and bring back Pavel Podkolzin.
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07-02-2015, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by GermanStandard
Hibbert is trash. Complete garbage. I rather sign Bismack Biyombo and bring back Pavel Podkolzin.
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Get hyped.
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07-02-2015, 02:02 PM
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Hibbert is trash. Complete garbage. I rather sign Bismack Biyombo and bring back Pavel Podkolzin.
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LOL...Hibbert is not "trash".
Certainly not worth $15mil on a long-term deal but is serviceable as a huge expiring and an actual tradable asset if we want to upgrade or pickup some youth at TDL.
That is a low risk plan B move.
Do you seriously want to commit long-term to Biyombo and consider him the answer to our center issues?
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07-02-2015, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rimrocker
LOL...Hibbert is not "trash".
Certainly not worth $15mil on a long-term deal but is serviceable as a huge expiring and an actual tradable asset if we want to upgrade or pickup some youth at TDL.
That is a low risk plan B move.
Do you seriously want to commit long-term to Biyombo and consider him the answer to our center issues?
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Hes not an Asset no one wants him. If we take him its just to field someone at the 5 for next season before letting him go next year.
They already said they are just dumping off his salary for the year if they are forced to take him.
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07-02-2015, 02:21 PM
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Hes not an Asset no one wants him. If we take him its just to field someone at the 5 for next season before letting him go next year.
They already said they are just dumping off his salary for the year if they are forced to take him.
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A $15mil expiring contract will be an asset at TDL...especially for teams trying to dump salary for 2016 cap increase.
If we sign Biyombo it better be as a backup at a backup salary.
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07-02-2015, 02:49 PM
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how much would Indy give up to dump Hibbert? if the Mavs could get a first rounder along with him, then tank the whole season, they'd end up with their own first (top 7) and Indy's.
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07-02-2015, 02:51 PM
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how much would Indy give up to dump Hibbert? if the Mavs could get a first rounder along with him, then tank the whole season, they'd end up with their own first (top 7) and Indy's.
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I'd say that's Plan Z... But at this point there aren't a lot of options between that and Plan A.
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07-02-2015, 02:53 PM
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how much would Indy give up to dump Hibbert? if the Mavs could get a first rounder along with him, then tank the whole season, they'd end up with their own first (top 7) and Indy's.
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Doubt they would give up a pick to move a huge expiring. Not sure if they have any other bad contracts but I like that idea.
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07-02-2015, 03:42 PM
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Who is the best Center realistically left and available either FA or trade?
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07-02-2015, 03:48 PM
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Who is the best Center realistically left and available either FA or trade?
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Koufos... Biyombo... Amare...Hansbrough (more of a PF)..maybe Jordan Hill.
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07-02-2015, 03:51 PM
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Koufos... Biyombo... Amare...Hansbrough (more of a PF)..maybe Jordan Hill.
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There is not enough liquor in dfw after reading this.
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07-02-2015, 03:56 PM
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There is not enough liquor in dfw after reading this.
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I should have added Robin Lopez and perhaps you might also add Larry Sanders or Emeka Okafor. Not sure if either of those last two are ever going to play another minute of NBA ball.
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07-02-2015, 03:54 PM
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Who is the best Center realistically left and available either FA or trade?
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Probably Hibbert, as you suggested. Have RoLo, Monroe, and O'Quinn finalized any deals yet? The Memphis backup might be available.
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07-02-2015, 04:00 PM
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Probably Hibbert, as you suggested. Have RoLo, Monroe, and O'Quinn finalized any deals yet? The Memphis backup might be available.
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Monroe committed to the Bucks. O'Quinn is available as a RF. Koufos has been the Grizz back up.
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07-02-2015, 04:02 PM
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Probably Hibbert, as you suggested. Have RoLo, Monroe, and O'Quinn finalized any deals yet? The Memphis backup might be available.
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Yeah I was thinking O'Quinn and Memphis' backup as probably two guys still left and they are probably going to be expensive.
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07-02-2015, 03:47 PM
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Lebron hasn't signed yet, has he? Isn't his agent named Maverick?
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07-02-2015, 04:01 PM
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So we need:
Starting Center
Starting PG
Starting SG
Backup PF
Backup Center
Backup SF
Looks to me we will be rebuilding no matter how you look at it.
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07-02-2015, 04:03 PM
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So we need:
Starting Center
Starting PG
Starting SG
Backup PF
Backup Center
Backup SF
Looks to me we will be rebuilding no matter how you look at it.
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That's what I was thinking. It looks like we are going to be forced to rebuild.
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07-02-2015, 04:03 PM
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I wouldn't be opposed to bringing Amare back.....but it would be a waste of time if you don't think you can contend.
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07-02-2015, 04:14 PM
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07-02-2015, 04:25 PM
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What other SG are out there?
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07-02-2015, 04:30 PM
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What other SG are out there?
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I see the following still available (there may be more):
Lou Williams
Marco Bellinelli
Dwyane Wade
JR Smith
Reggie Jackson
Rodney Stuckey
Gerald Green
Corey Brewer
Gary Neal
Barbosa
Wayne Ellington
Marcus Thornton
John Jenkins
JET
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07-02-2015, 04:38 PM
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Didn't see this posted anywhere and I missed it till now
Jared Zwerling-
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Attending DeAndre Jordan's meeting today with the Clippers will be Ballmer, Zucker and Rivers. No players. CP3 & Blake already talked to DJ.
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https://twitter.com/JaredZwerling/st...70048539799554
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07-02-2015, 04:53 PM
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DeAndre will be a Maverick!
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07-02-2015, 04:54 PM
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this could mean both: either they are sure anyway, that he´ll return, or they don´t care and Parsons could make a late push..
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