07-31-2009, 11:21 AM
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Taliban - Kidnapping Kids - Brainwash for Jihad
Just watched a report on TV about kids being kidnapped...as young as 6 years old and being processed through a Taliban training program and brainwashed for Jihad.
They are being trained for various missions, to include Suicide Bombing.
This is taking place along the Afghan/Palistan area.
So, is this something that we stand by and live on our land in America and basically don't get involved...or do we continue digging for more information?
At what point do we take action?
The taget of the Taliban from this report are Jihad against Pakistan for being friends with the USA.
This enemy is unlike anything we have faced in our history...Terrorism is not about Country lines, but rather it is an ideology that infiltrates a group of people, regardless of nation and who's ultimate target is America.
Many of the people are not involved out of choice...and as much as we in America appreciate and believe that everyone has a choice...it is clear that this is not a reality in all communities/countries/regions of the world.
It's clear that my view has been in strong support for our military action in Iraq and Afghanistan. But there is a serious opposition towards our military action...of which I value the oppositions beliefs.
So I ask...from both sides...how do we address and confront the insanity of Jihad/Terrorist both domestic and abroad? Keeping in mind that their are many of these terrorists who are quite simply victims themselves, but brainwashed.
I'm truly torn about this...I have serious compassion for victims, while I also have serious anger against the perps, who are victims themselves.
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07-31-2009, 11:32 AM
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This is nothing new - I remember hearing about these "recruiting" techniques back in the mid-90s (and it's been going on since the 70s...)
Exploiting children is nothing new either - we're exposed to it every time a child starts crying over some toy they don't need because the commercials during their Saturday morning cartoons told them they NEED that plastic crap (not to trivialize what's going on in the Middle East, just pointing out how easy it is to warp the minds of the innocent...)
On the topic of terrorism - if you want the problem to go away, you should probably deal with the issues that motivate people to turn to terrorism in the first place (stuff like abject poverty, the rape of natural resources and the westernization of a culture that doesn't want to be westernized...)
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07-31-2009, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 92bDad
Just watched a report on TV about kids being kidnapped...as young as 6 years old and being processed through a Taliban training program and brainwashed for Jihad.
They are being trained for various missions, to include Suicide Bombing.
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Are you aware that the US funded this activity at one time not too long ago? Seriously, we provided all kinds of stuff to help brainwash the kids, glorifying the jihad and what not. This started back in the day when the godless commies were in Afghanistan and we were quietly fighting the commies by throwing jihadis at them....the birth of al qaeda and whatnot(not that any of this has anything to do with imperial blowback).
If you search "afghanistan schoolbook scandal" you'll probably get hit with nothing but alex jones type of stuff, but once upon a time this story was known in mainstream sources....let's see....traveling through the way back machine.... here 'tis....
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From U.S., the ABC's of Jihad
Violent Soviet-Era Textbooks Complicate Afghan Education Efforts
By Joe Stephens and David B. Ottaway
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, March 23, 2002; Page A01
In the twilight of the Cold War, the United States spent millions of dollars to supply Afghan schoolchildren with textbooks filled with violent images and militant Islamic teachings, part of covert attempts to spur resistance to the Soviet occupation.
The primers, which were filled with talk of jihad and featured drawings of guns, bullets, soldiers and mines, have served since then as the Afghan school system's core curriculum.
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anyhoo...you were asking,
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...is this something that we stand by and live on our land in America and basically don't get involved...or do we continue digging for more information?
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I think we definitely should avoid teaching little afghanis to become suicide bombers and whatnot. Don't you agree?
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Last edited by alexamenos; 07-31-2009 at 11:41 AM.
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07-31-2009, 02:34 PM
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How dare you sir! Are you insinuating this is NOT the greatest country in the world???
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07-31-2009, 02:43 PM
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Since this thread has become a neutral, relativistic playground, I submit Exhibits A and B to the theory that an axis of evil seeks to secretly replace the world's finest fighting force with a generation of free loving homosexuals.
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Is this ghost ball??
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07-31-2009, 03:35 PM
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This is a world, we can not understand. Not to justify anything, but it simply is something completely different. I had the chance to talk to a lawyer who holds the position as a public servant at the German Bundeswehr and he is frequently sent to Afghanistan.
So, for example, Taliban "police" has to take care the menĀ“s beards are long enough. The beard must be as long as a mans fist. If not, the men are arrested so that the beard can grow while injailed. When it is long enough they are released and can walk away without parole.
It simply is a weird part of the world.
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07-31-2009, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DirkFTW
Since this thread has become a neutral, relativistic playground, I submit Exhibits A and B to the theory that an axis of evil seeks to secretly replace the world's finest fighting force with a generation of free loving homosexuals.
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wow those are really disturbing.
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07-31-2009, 04:32 PM
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anyhoo....I recalled the US plan to indoctrinate young Afghanistanian kiddies in the ways of the jihad because it was just....well....break out the black helicopters and tinfoil hats.
I mean, here we were in the spring of 2002, fighting a war against crazy jihadis who just happen to be about the right age to be grown-up versions of the kids we were schooling in the way of jihad a decade and more earlier.
For those of us inclined to think that it isn't unthinkable to consider the events of 9-11 to be a tragic example of blowback, the fact that we were fighting the very jihadis that we had helped indoctrinate was a pretty good example of...well...the extent the so called war-on-terror is a predictable albeit unintended consequence of our imperial foreign policy.
But amazingly this article doesn't stop to ponder unintended consequences and blowback and foreign policy, but the all important question of whether we crossed the barrier between church and state....iow, the subject matter of the article is a head-scratching non-sequitor.
This story never got any additional press that I could find. Just a few passing mentions of the fact that we spent a decade encouraging afghanis to be crazy jihadis...nothing to see here, move along.
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07-31-2009, 04:55 PM
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Also, google the "lord's resistance army" to see the tactic brought to its (il?)logical extreme by a-hole "christians" in western and central Africa...
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