Trade deadline

[DevinHarriswillstart]

This sounds a bit more promising for OG. If the price has come down to a first, then I might prefer him over Bojan because of age and defense.

https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/st...16571667152896

Green, DFS, and a first works.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Milwaukee is shopping Serge Ibaka. Yes, I'll take him over Powell or McGee.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Milwaukee is shopping Serge Ibaka. Yes, I'll take him over Powell or McGee.

For a second I would grab him as a rental. He's listed at 33, but probably 37+ so not much more on those tires, but not bad to have as primary until we get the team healthy.

Can't be the only move, but could be a small positive move at the right price.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

For a second I would grab him as a rental. He's listed at 33, but probably 37+ so not much more on those tires, but not bad to have as primary until we get the team healthy.

Can't be the only move, but could be a small positive move at the right price.

37 yrs old in basketball years?

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

37 yrs old in basketball years?

Likely 44 in actual years, but again, Dwight Powell.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Likely 44 in actual years, but again, Dwight Powell.

Dwight fucking POW!

[saclare]

Rebounding and defense, bring in the Serge. But like EL said, has to be one of a few moves to bolster the rotation.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Yeah, just to clarify, Serge is my Kemba Walker stop gap if Wood is out 4-6 weeks. But he might be useful after that as well because Pow.

[BPo001]

According to ESPN's Adrian Wojanrowski, the Los Angeles Lakers have traded for Washington Wizards forward Rui Hachimura. In return, the Lakers are reportedly sending back Kendrick Nunn and three second-round draft picks.

[saclare]

Nice buy-low for the Lakers, not sure I care for Rui's fit here.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by saclare

Nice buy-low for the Lakers, not sure I care for Rui's fit here.

Yeah I was disappointed that we missed the trade considering how little he was worth. We could have probably done like Green and a couple of 2nds and kept the FRPs in 2025/2027

But he's not that great. At 6'8" he's a downright terrible rebounder at the 3/4. His defense is poor. His three-point shooting is merely average (34%) which could be understandable if he was forced to take a bunch of defended threes, but he's shooting 28% when he gets a pass and is wide-open, which is the type of three-point shooting we'd want from him with Luka on the team.

He can do other stuff, but for a forward, we need rebounding, defense, and shooting. He doesn't really do any of that well. We don't need more guys that can't defend, rebound, or even finish when Luka finds them open.

[Melonhead]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Yeah I was disappointed that we missed the trade considering how little he was worth. We could have probably done like Green and a couple of 2nds and kept the FRPs in 2025/2027

But he's not that great. At 6'8" he's a downright terrible rebounder at the 3/4. His defense is poor. His three-point shooting is merely average (34%) which could be understandable if he was forced to take a bunch of defended threes, but he's shooting 28% when he gets a pass and is wide-open, which is the type of three-point shooting we'd want from him with Luka on the team.

He can do other stuff, but for a forward, we need rebounding, defense, and shooting. He doesn't really do any of that well. We don't need more guys that can't defend, rebound, or even finish when Luka finds them open.

I think he?s better than you give him credit for however the more I think about it, I?m not too upset they didn?t go in for him. He?s RFA in May so if they really want him they can put out an offer sheet.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Hopefully that's a sign that not every player will cost a first. Getting him for second round picks is a huge win for them.

Nico better do something like that and soon.

[EricaLubarsky]

17 days

I will honestly be pissed if we don't make at least one significant move

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

17 days

I will honestly be pissed if we don't make at least one significant move

Well you know it's bad when we're making murals about it. Can't blame twitter for that.

The west is still wide open. That means sacrificing the future for now.

Bojan changes this team so dramatically in that regard that you have to go hard for it. Luka/Spence/Bojan/Wood is a solid core.

Bojan/Noel. Do it.

[saclare]

Need to get this thread pumping for my own sanity. I'm with EL, going to be hard to continue watching this team without any significant move. I couldn't support the FO at that point. I know it takes two to tango but there are a lot of dance partners...

[saclare]

I do not care for Cam Reddish, Terry Rozier, or John Collins.

Mavs Would do well to dive in deep talks with the Pacers...Myles Turner, TJ McConnell, Buddy Hield, any combo...

If they could somehow get Turner without having to include Wood, that's a dream scenario. But if you wanted both Turner and Hield, you will have to give.

I tend to lean with other posters prior to the season in that these 1st rounders we should be viewing as late 20s type picks. Of course, that banks on keeping Luka happy and being in the playoffs. Those aren't as valuable to me as to swinging the fence to see if that works.

Would a THJ, Powell, and a 1st convince the Pacers to part with Myles Turner and McConnell? If you want Hield and you don't think an extension with Wood is possible, throw in Wood and Hield, respectively, while potentially removing the 1st rounder. There's competition out there for Turner so I'd imagine the Mavs know the price. Let's see who balks.

Best case scenario would be Cuban willing to go into the luxury and build around Wood AND Turner. That SL would be enticing, to say the least:

Luka, SD, Green, Wood, Turner with McConnell, Bullock, DFS, Bertans and Powell of the bench...

[purplefrog]

Seriously getting antsy about the trade deadline. Seems to me there are opportunities out there if the FO will get off the crapper and do something. For example, the Kings are asking for matching salary and two second round picks for Holmes. Send Pow + the picks and get it done for heaven's sake. I wonder if cheap skate Cuban is hoping they can take advantage of buyouts and pay bargain basement prices. I swear if nothing is done it either means the FO is content, delusional, or no one wants players on the Mavs. I don't know which is worse (Edit: Could be all the above).

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by purplefrog

Seriously getting antsy about the trade deadline. Seems to me there are opportunities out there if the FO will get off the crapper and do something. For example, the Kings are asking for matching salary and two second round picks for Holmes. Send Pow + the picks and get it done for heaven's sake. I wonder if cheap skate Cuban is hoping they can take advantage of buyouts and pay bargain basement prices. I swear if nothing is done it either means the FO is content, delusional, or no one wants players on the Mavs. I don't know which is worse (Edit: Could be all the above).

C: all of the above.

[Melonhead]

Originally Posted by purplefrog

Seriously getting antsy about the trade deadline. Seems to me there are opportunities out there if the FO will get off the crapper and do something. For example, the Kings are asking for matching salary and two second round picks for Holmes. Send Pow + the picks and get it done for heaven's sake. I wonder if cheap skate Cuban is hoping they can take advantage of buyouts and pay bargain basement prices. I swear if nothing is done it either means the FO is content, delusional, or no one wants players on the Mavs. I don't know which is worse (Edit: Could be all the above).

Oh no not the buyout basement bargains

[Dallas41]

I bet none of us thought that Luka coming off of a WCF 's trip would turn around and have a worse team than Sacramento and New Orleans

That is how far Cuban has allowed this team to regress

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Rumor we are interested in D'Angelo Russell which I mentioned was a good fit. Half the fanbase would hate that move, but it's as close to replacing Brunson as you're realistically gonna get at the deadline.

[JustJay]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Rumor we are interested in D'Angelo Russell which I mentioned was a good fit. Half the fanbase would hate that move, but it's as close to replacing Brunson as you're realistically gonna get at the deadline.

Who are we giving up? I would hate to lose Hardy for D'Angelo Russell.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by JustJay

Who are we giving up? I would hate to lose Hardy for D'Angelo Russell.

Isn't Hardy basically a Russell clone? Me first scoring combo guard? Mavs already screwed up playing Hardy this season, so I'd for sure consider it.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Isn't Hardy basically a Russell clone? Me first scoring combo guard? Mavs already screwed up playing Hardy this season, so I'd for sure consider it.

Haven't seen enough of Hardy to determine anything. If you give a guy scraps while he's starving, he going to try and eat it all. He has been a willing passer when getting meani gful mins. Those just don't come around very often.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

This is straight from Woj...

"I think it's hard for Dallas right now to get the kind of co-star that they would want. A legitimate No. 2 player or maybe it's a No. 3 player next to Christian Wood in the trade market. I think the kind of players that the Mavs are knocking on the door ? look in Detroit, Bojan Bogdanovic, Nerlens Noel -- that's a tandem that could be in a package together.

[Simon2]

Why do you guys want to trade DP? Isn?t it obvious that Luka loves playing him. He not only provides the best screens for Luka but he also is an easy 4 assists on his lob and dunks? When Luka drives, DP will sometimes just hang around down there and Luka uses him as a screen. Does DP shoot from the three? No, but that?s not his game.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by Simon2

Why do you guys want to trade DP? Isn?t it obvious that Luka loves playing him. He not only provides the best screens for Luka but he also is an easy 4 assists on his lob and dunks? When Luka drives, DP will sometimes just hang around down there and Luka uses him as a screen. Does DP shoot from the three? No, but that?s not his game.

Yes, Dwight Powell not nailing threes is totally our issue with him. Nailed it.

[Melonhead]

Originally Posted by Simon2

Why do you guys want to trade DP? Isn?t it obvious that Luka loves playing him. He not only provides the best screens for Luka but he also is an easy 4 assists on his lob and dunks? When Luka drives, DP will sometimes just hang around down there and Luka uses him as a screen. Does DP shoot from the three? No, but that?s not his game.

This feels like sarcasm.

He?s fine as a 10 mpg guy coming off near the end of the bench.

[Simon2]

Originally Posted by Melonhead

This feels like sarcasm.

He?s fine as a 10 mpg guy coming off near the end of the bench.

Its not. Yes. He will have some bad games but he will also have 22pt games like he had with tge Wizards. I think people are hating too much on DP but when he is gone, people will miss his hustle, his attitude and his alley oop dunks.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by Simon2

Its not. Yes. He will have some bad games but he will also have 22pt games like he had with tge Wizards. I think people are hating too much on DP but when he is gone, people will miss his hustle, his attitude and his alley oop dunks.

Yes, his occasional 2 alley oops dunks a game, his 6pts, 4 rebounds and zero assists per game will be sorely missed. Like, how will we function? There's no way to replace that kind of production.

[Dallas41]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

Yes, his occasional 2 alley oops dunks a game, his 6pts, 4 rebounds and zero assists per game will be sorely missed. Like, how will we function? There's no way to replace that kind of production.

He didn't get any of those dunks in the playoffs last years because he's unplayable in the post season

How quickly some fans forget how bad he looked vs Phoenix and Golden St last year and the previous year vs the Clippers.

Fuch those alley oop dunks in the regular season that shit gets taken away in the post season.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by Simon2

Its not. Yes. He will have some bad games but he will also have 22pt games like he had with tge Wizards. I think people are hating too much on DP but when he is gone, people will miss his hustle, his attitude and his alley oop dunks.

I think you're right.

Do I hang up if he's brought up in trades? No.
Do I think he's a net negative I'd pay someone to take off our hands? Also no.

He's got the good atittude of Boban while occasionally being able to play some really solid minutes. Starter? No. Decent mix-it-up backup? Yes.

[saclare]

I'm down for that version of an expiring Russell. D'Angelo would fit nicely here and allow flexibility moving forward if not. He absolutely moves the needle, but we would then need to address defense and rebounding in separate moves.

[SMC0007]

I'm 100% not trading Hardy in a deal that only lands D Russell. He's too close to SD in terms of what he brings. I want 1 guy who can play both sides of the floor, if I'm giving up young quality potential. He def moves the needle but not enough.

[EricaLubarsky]

Do you entertain trades for Powell?

Oh hell yes. He's expiring and he's not the best center. If you can use him for a better center or another playmaker, you do it.

Do you trade him just to trade him?

Hell no. He's a decent backup with great chemistry with Luka who brings a good attitude and energy (but little defense/rebounding). Poeltl and Powell would make for a decent center position while Poeltl/McGee would not.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Rumor that bulls shopping Drummond. Beggars can't be choosers...

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Rumor that bulls shopping Drummond. Beggars can't be choosers...

He's getting DNPs for them which means he's available.

Then again, we have a top-rate rebounder who is showing his age with slow foot speed and he's also getting DNPs

[JustJay]

Myles Turner just got a 2 year 60 mil extension in Indiana. WWNITMTRITFP.

[Melonhead]

Just extend Wood jfc