Players you dont want drafted by the Mavs

[JeffViggiano]

Originally Posted by sefant77

Rookie PG for Dirks last years? no thanks

maybe with a vet for starter...billups or jack.

[mac222b]

I love Dieng but I think the mocks are still undervaluing him at this point. OKC will take him one pick before the Mavs... Not getting my hopes up (that way if we get him, great! )

Next in my cluster would probably be Odetokoubo(Greecian kid), CJ McCollum, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope.

[mavs777]

Having watched a ton of college basketball here is my assessment of players I want/don't want that can realistically be there at 12 where we pick (unless we get lucky and pick top 3)

Want:
CJ Mccollum
Kelly Olynyk (he is so efficient and does lots of things well that even if his post play doesn't work in NBA he should be a good offensive option)
Dennis Schroeder- has huge potential
Don't want:
MCW: Poor shooter, poor decision maker
Deng- Offensive game too limited
Plumlee- Same as Deng

[nowhereman]

People that want us to sign Chauncey Billups as a starter make me want to slam my head against a wall.

[LonghornDub]

Originally Posted by nowhereman

People that want us to sign Chauncey Billups as a starter make me want to slam my head against a wall.

Don't worry none about that. You know CP3 is comin.

[Bayliss]

ou know CP3 is comin.

That's what Lamar said.

[EricaLubarsky]

Players I do want?

Gorgui Dieng
Lorenzo Brown
Trey Burke
Anthony Bennett
Myck Kabongo is worth a look late

[DevinHarriswillstart]

I wonder if Bennett might slip with his injury. Probably not far.

[clutch#41]

we should trade up and get burke, if we miss out in the lottery

[Eman]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Players I do want?

Gorgui Dieng
Lorenzo Brown
Trey Burke
Anthony Bennett
Myck Kabongo is worth a look late

Nothing Can go Wrongo, draft Myck Kabongo!......in the second

[Bayliss]

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/mason-plumlee

NBA Comparison: Yi Jianlian
Strengths: Mason Plumlee looks the part of a physically gifted PF prospect that NBA teams covet at 6’11 235 … He’s also a great athlete, with very nice fluidity, leaping skills and explosiveness … Plumlee is a still developing offensive player, who shows flashes of being able to face-up as a triple threat and post down low … He’s a very good catch and finish player, who also is a good partner in the pick and roll game with his PG due to his athleticism and quick leaping skills … Runs the floor like a deer … Has a developing jump hook with both hands, and shows flashes of a turnaround jumper too … Good passing skills from the high post when facing the basket … Functional ball-handler who can utilize 2 straight line dribbles to get to the rim and finish if left open … Has a good first step for his size and long strides … Plays with a solid motor, and rarely watches the ball on offense and does a good job of always being in motion … Not a bad area rebounder on either end of the floor … Also shows pretty good shot-blocking skills ...

Weaknesses: Although he has nice size for the position and is physically impressive, Plumlee needs more upperbody strength … He can be ineffective against physical bigs on both ends on the floor, and seems to lack toughness and determination … Often loses battles down low on D as bigger matchups often seal on him, and he can struggle to establish post position on offense … Even though he has the tools and physique to be a face-up PF, his face-up skills need a good deal of polish all-around for him to be truly effective … His post game also needs polish, as he doesn’t read the defense very well at all and doesn’t get in and out of his counters quickly when his initial move gets cut off … Doesn’t handle help D naturally, and commits turnovers or forces shots in those instances … Doesn’t show alot in terms of instincts and awareness on the defensive end, and PF’s had their fair share of good games against him and the Duke frontline thus far in his career … Right now, Plumlee is more intrigue than production, but he does have untapped potential ...

Overall: Mason Plumlee’s physical tools, athleticism and budding skill level makes him an interesting prospect … His lack of great production, toughness, strength and defensive awareness are the main things holding him back from reaching his potential … He has time and potential on his side, as well as developing time with Duke’s staff …

Notes: Measured 6'10 (in shoes) 234 lbs, with a 6'11 wingspan at the 2011 Amare Stoudemire Skills Academy ... Measured 6'11.5 (in shoes) 240 lbs, with a 6'10 wingspan at the 2012 Amare Stoudemire Skills Academy

That is who nbadraft.net has the Mavs picking. Let's hope they pass.

[mac222b]

Yi is a terrible comparison

[Budapest Maverick]

I want the greek kid, or the german kid. I'd go for high ceiling instead of high floor, every time.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by mac222b

Yi is a terrible comparison

Jeez. No kidding! At least the got a comparable position.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Plumlee is more like a poor man's Blake Griffin than a Yi. Yi isn't a good comparison at all.

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by Budapest Maverick

I want the greek kid, or the german kid. I'd go for high ceiling instead of high floor, every time.

I'd be happy with either of those. Though I'd prefer a guy that can contribute now and give Dirk some help. That has me leaning Dieng or McCollum.

[Underdog]

Considering how few assets we have going into this summer, it wouldn't surprise me at all if we ended up trading our first round pick.

[BGMaverick9]

Originally Posted by Underdog

Considering how few assets we have going into this summer, it wouldn't surprise me at all if we ended up trading our first round pick.

...to get one more. For me, I wouldn't mind trading with Atlanta and getting 17/18.

[Bayliss]

All I can say if Plumlee's draft comparison is accurate:

Yi God.

[DirkFTW]

If the NBA allows three basketballs and traveling, Plumlee will be unstoppable!

[Bayliss]

That behind the backboard reverse dunk was pretty impressive.

[clutch#41]

Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

...to get one more. For me, I wouldn't mind trading with Atlanta and getting 17/18.

clever idea. maybe dump marion as their "josh smith" replacement for one of the picks and we get extra cap space? i would be down with this idea!

[grndmstr_c]

Originally Posted by clutch#41

clever idea. maybe dump marion as their "josh smith" replacement for one of the picks and we get extra cap space? i would be down with this idea!

Marion + 13 for 17 + 18? You're down with that?

[clutch#41]

just marion for ONE of the picks. so we would have 13 and 17 or 13 and 18

[grndmstr_c]

Originally Posted by clutch#41

just marion for ONE of the picks

Yuck. And I think you misunderstood what BG was suggesting.

[clutch#41]

i dont really like trading the 13th for the 17th and 18th. dieng, plumlee, carter williams, and mcCollum would be gone, which to me is a big talent drop off after them. why not dump marion get the space and either address the position in free agency or just let crowder start. hes certainly worthy of starting

[grndmstr_c]

Originally Posted by clutch#41

i dont really like trading the 13th for the 17th and 18th. dieng, plumlee, carter williams, and mcCollum would be gone, which to me is a big talent drop off after them. why not dump marion get the space and either address the position in free agency or just let crowder start. hes certainly worthy of starting

So you don't want to trade the 13th pick for the 17th and 18th because of the talent dropoff after Mason Plumlee, but you're excited about the prospect of trading Marion for just one of those picks? I just don't even know what to say to that.

[BGMaverick9]

For those still catching up:
It was just the 13th for the 17th and 18th. That's it.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

For those still catching up:
It was just the 13th for the 17th and 18th. That's it.

So we're trading Marion and our 13th to Atlanta for their 17th and 18th picks? Do you think Brittney Griner will still be on the board that far down??

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by Underdog

So we're trading Marion and our 13th to Atlanta for their 17th and 18th picks? Do you think Brittney Griner will still be on the board that far down??

And that is how an opinion becomes a rumor.

[grndmstr_c]

Originally Posted by Underdog

So we're trading Marion and our 13th to Atlanta for their 17th and 18th picks? Do you think Brittney Griner will still be on the board that far down??

No, no, no, you've only got it half right. Marion + 13 for 17 + 18, then 17 + 18 for 36 (17 + 18 = 35 < 36 = win; it's math so you no it's write), THEN take Brittney with the 36th pick, Whammy! 2nd rounder, so no cap hold, leaving plenty of space for the Mavs to sign Paul and Howard, who'll be so impressed with the breakneck GMing and the novel opportunities that post-workout showers in the home team's locker room will present that they'll immediately commit to the Mavs. Nobody'll ever see it coming!

Brilliant idea, BG. Really freaking brilliant.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

No, no, no, you've only got it half right. Marion + 13 for 17 + 18, then 17 + 18 for 36 (17 + 18 = 35 < 36 = win; it's math so you no it's write), THEN take Brittney with the 36th pick, Whammy! 2nd rounder, so no cap hold, leaving plenty of space for the Mavs to sign Paul and Howard, who'll be so impressed with the breakneck GMing and the novel opportunities that post-workout showers in the home team's locker room will present that they'll immediately commit to the Mavs. Nobody'll ever see it coming!

Brilliant idea, BG. Really freaking brilliant.

Well, duh... Obviously.

[clutch#41]

as long as we get dieng, or trade up and get burke, or even win the lottery, ill be happy haha

[clutch#41]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...trades/page/14

interesting!!

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by clutch#41

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...trades/page/14

interesting!!

It's bleacher report. Any guess or prediction that you have as a Mavs fan is as likely-- and probably MORE likely to happen than anything they print.

[jasonic]

Originally Posted by saclare

Olynyk, Plumlee, Withey.

Why not Withey? He was the best blocker in the NCAA this year and he 's got nice athleticism too.I agree though that we should not draft Olynyk and Plumlee because they are not a good fit with Dirk.

Btw the mock draft of Chad Brown gave us Saric, but i don't think that we are going to draft players that they are not ready contribute immediately.

[saclare]

Originally Posted by jasonic

Why not Withey? He was the best blocker in the NCAA this year and he 's got nice athleticism too.I agree though that we should not draft Olynyk and Plumlee because they are not a good fit with Dirk.

Btw the mock draft of Chad Brown gave us Saric, but i don't think that we are going to draft players that they are not ready contribute immediately.

Withey is definitely good and worth where he will be taken, I just don't think that will be in the first 15 to maybe even 20 picks. My inclusion of him was more due to the value of drafting him at 13 overall.

[BGMaverick9]

The Hawks own back-to-back picks in the first round (Nos. 17 and 18), and may be willing to package them together for the sake of moving up, insiders said.

http://www.foxsportsohio.com/nba/cle...17&feedID=3725

[sefant77]

Originally Posted by clutch#41

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...trades/page/14

interesting!!

Just pure BS.

The only way the #13 lands in Atlanta is in a Marion package for Josh.

Moving four spots down for freaking Jenkins and a late 2nd rounder (you can buy them anytime you want during the draft). Why we need an undersized SG after drafting Cunningham last year?

We are not trading the pick down. We either pack it to get a star or draft the BPA to pack him in any july trades.

[grndmstr_c]

Originally Posted by sefant77

Just pure BS.

The only way the #13 lands in Atlanta is in a Marion package for Josh.

Moving four spots down for freaking Jenkins and a late 2nd rounder (you can buy them anytime you want during the draft). Why we need an undersized SG after drafting Cunningham last year?

We are not trading the pick down. We either pack it to get a star or draft the BPA to pack him in any july trades.

I didn't think much of the proposal in that article, either, but BGs idea of 13 for 17/18 seems more reasonable to me (from the Mavs' perspective, at least), depending on what they think of the guys who figure to go in the 13-16 range, vs. the guys who have a good chance of being there at 17.