Barack Obama's 20 year preacher.

[Underdog]

How can they see out their rear windshield? That seems dangerous (don't they realize that Jesus is a co-pilot, not a driver???)

[mary]

All that and they didn't have the decency to buy a real American car.

[rabbitproof]

Yeah, silly them, that car was probably made by muslim extreme socialists.

[DirkFTW]

You mean, the Japanese?

Fairness Doctrine and all that:



I think he missed a spot... there....

Haha, No car? No problem!

[Mavdog]

Originally Posted by DirkFTW

You mean, the Japanese?

Fairness Doctrine and all that:



I think he missed a spot... there....

gee, an 82 volvo wagon...who woulda guessed they would be an obama supporter?

[Murphy3]

Who is JESUC?

[DirkFTW]

Maybe someone already had JESUS and JESUSC?

[wmbwinn]

Originally Posted by mary

Sorry, I really could've done a better job explaining myself. Again, its not your religion that's I'm interested in - its your train of thought in this thread.

Here's a post.

The idea behind this seems to be that Wright's thoughts = Obama's thoughts - at least that is what the Republican party wants us to believe and has strongly implied. You find it hard to believe that Wright had nothing to do with "forming Obama's thoughts"......apparently you believe people who attend church indiscriminantly allow their thoughts to be formed by others. You reinforce this idea by pointing out that "Where I grew up, we actually believed what was taught in Church." So in other words if you believed what was being taught in church, then it must be that others also believe what is being taught in thier church as well.

Obama MUST'VE believed in all of his church's ideology, because we all know that attending church requires that independent thinking be checked at the door. Heck, you can even find out what kind of people the congregation are just by studying the teachings of the church. I don't really believe this, and I never really have. Obviously there are those that buy into the sheep mentality. And those who find it absurd that a man could attend a church for twenty years and NOT have ideological differences with his pastors, are the same ones that would probably never have the slightest clue IF and WHEN their own church ever turned whacky.

Why in the heck would anyone attend a church for 20 years when they disagreed with the content?

If you have thoughts that the church is "whacky", you leave the church like you and
Chum did. You don't keep attending for 20 years.

Both of you made a point that you left your "whacky" churches.

So, why didn't Obama leave his "whacky" church over 20 years???

Simple fact is that he must have liked the church and must have had substantial common ground.

People just don't stay in "whacky" churches. As evidence, I present you and Chum.

Your posts on this subject are devoid of logic.

[rabbitproof]

DirkFTW,

Just throwing some wild accusations around.

[mary]

Originally Posted by wmbwinn

Your posts on this subject are devoid of logic.

I don't think so, I think I'm making myself pretty clear. Its not a requirement to give up your independent thinking just because you're a member of a congregation. The fact that you believe a church member's thougths and beliefs must equal the pastors thoughts beliefs, tells me you don't believe this.

In fact, I can't think of a church that I've EVER been a member of, where my political beliefs even REMOTELY resembled that of the pastor's. Ha...not even close.

[Kirobaito]

I vehemently disagreed politically with the vast majority of the church I attended for twenty years... but I ultimately left because I disagreed with them theologically. The political differences were only a symptom.