05-07-2007, 05:04 PM
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GSW Second Best Team Remaining?
John Hollinger seems to think so.
"Just in case I haven't hammered this point home yet: Golden State with a healthy Baron Davis and a healthy Jason Richardson is a scary, scary team. The Warriors score, they pressure the ball and force turnovers, they can spread the floor with shooters and run you ragged, and (shhhh!) they even have a real center, if they feel like playing one, in the rapidly improving Andris Biedrins.
That said, I would quibble with the Warriors' outranking the Suns for one reason: It assumes perfect health. In Golden State's case, this may be a cavalier assumption. Davis has a bad hammy that could limit him in the Utah series, while Matt Barnes also is wounded. And even if Davis can overcome the hamstring problem, there's no guarantee he won't hurt something else three days from now.
But fully healthy? I'd take these Warriors over just about anybody. Even without home court they're a solid favorite against Utah in Round 2, and are good enough that they could knock off Phoenix and shock the world if they got to the conference finals. Well, if they played Phoenix, that is. Which would be the greatest series ever, but probably won't happen, because there's one little problem in the way ..."
From his new article. Anyone with Insider mind posting the whole thing?
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05-07-2007, 06:34 PM
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and I agree. nobody is giving the warriors any credit but they are a very good team. Like i've said countless times before, if they had this roster from the beginning of the year and healthy, they would be one of the top teams in the NBA. I hope people realize this if they beat the other teams. It wasn't necessarily that the mavs sucked (they didn't play too well anyways...) but the warriors are a good team. maybe if people see that they can beat another team, then they won't be so hard on the mavs...
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05-07-2007, 07:17 PM
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You'd think that, but a lot of the players on that team are remarkably inconsistent. You don't know how surprised I was to learn that Baron shot a mere 30% from 3 in the regular season.
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05-07-2007, 08:05 PM
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That's beyond ridiculous.
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05-07-2007, 08:21 PM
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Turns out Hollinger was right all along about the Mavs. I'm thinking he might be right here as well.
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05-07-2007, 08:36 PM
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They aren't even second best remaining in the West. They are clearly behind the Suns and Spurs imo.
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05-07-2007, 09:13 PM
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05-07-2007, 09:17 PM
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I will consider GS a contender when I see consistent play from them against a team not named the Mavs. I guess we'll find out tonight.
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05-07-2007, 09:51 PM
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^ i second that
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05-08-2007, 12:26 PM
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No way GS beats SA or Phx. I am not sure what their regular season record is against these teams. Barnes has surprized me with his good and scrappy play. The Lakers and GS would have been a good series and i think Denver beats GS and i pick a physical Utah team to beat GS. They hung this first game and was within 4 points. No doubt Nelson has done a great job and has them believing. I thought Murphy was a good player but as it turns out getting what they did made GS alot better. I was never impressed with Dunleavy.
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05-08-2007, 12:30 PM
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the problem is that they DONT spread the floor with shooters. They just happened to be hot against dallas. Baron davis is ANYTHING but a shooter. They have exactly one player with above a 35% career 3pt shooting percentage and he roles in at an amazing 35.1.
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05-08-2007, 12:35 PM
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Golden State is just built to beat a team like ours. Utah will put them out in 5 or 6.
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05-08-2007, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Five-ofan
the problem is that they DONT spread the floor with shooters. They just happened to be hot against dallas. Baron davis is ANYTHING but a shooter. They have exactly one player with above a 35% career 3pt shooting percentage and he roles in at an amazing 35.1.
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Plus if you look at their overall shooting averages, they weren't even that hot against Dallas.
I still contend Dallas just played like crap, period.
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05-08-2007, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jthig32
Plus if you look at their overall shooting averages, they weren't even that hot against Dallas.
I still contend Dallas just played like crap, period.
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dallas did play like crap but they shot well, barnes shot 40 percent on threes, davis shot 46%, and stephen jackson shot 48% since those last 2 took a bunch thats a huge deal.
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05-08-2007, 12:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Five-ofan
dallas did play like crap but they shot well, barnes shot 40 percent on threes, davis shot 46%, and stephen jackson shot 48% since those last 2 took a bunch thats a huge deal.
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Individual players shot well, but if you look at their team percentages they were very much in line with their regular season.
Don't forget, Harrington was a complete no show.
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05-08-2007, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DOMINATOR
spurs
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I think I am putting the Pistons at number 1 on any list. They are currently dominating a very good Chicago team.
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05-08-2007, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by GP
I think I am putting the Pistons at number 1 on any list. They are currently dominating a very good Chicago team.
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I think last season taught the Pistons to pace themselves. They have looked amazing in the playoffs so far. I don't think it's out of the question that they could beat the Spurs or Suns in the Finals.
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05-08-2007, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jthig32
Don't forget, Harrington was a complete no show.
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yeah...'cause he was a key to the series.... (insert obvious sarcasm icon here:______)
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05-08-2007, 02:57 PM
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yeah...'cause he was a key to the series.... (insert obvious sarcasm icon here:______)
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I'm confused, is this real sarcams or fake sarcasm?
Harrington's arguably their second best player. I bet if you had told Golden State fans that Harrington would be gawd awful for the entire series, they wouldn't have felt real confident.
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05-08-2007, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Five-ofan
dallas did play like crap but they shot well, barnes shot 40 percent on threes, davis shot 46%, and stephen jackson shot 48% since those last 2 took a bunch thats a huge deal.
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I agree wholeheartedly.
I continue to take the position that GSW is a very ordinary team that matched up well and played over their heads against a Mavs team that stunk to the high heavens. They play with gimmicks and sometimes it pays off when everything is clicking. They might push the Jazz some but in the end Utah is the better team. I predict next year the Warriors will be in the middle of the pack.
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05-08-2007, 08:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jthig32
I'm confused, is this real sarcams or fake sarcasm?
Harrington's arguably their second best player. I bet if you had told Golden State fans that Harrington would be gawd awful for the entire series, they wouldn't have felt real confident.
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and hes a career 34% three point shooter.
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05-09-2007, 04:05 AM
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Matchups, matchups, matchups. The Warriors don't match up as well against the Spurs or the Suns as they do the Mavs. The Mavs matched up well with the Spurs and looked strong against the Suns.
Some people think it's irony. It's just basketball. Small things become big, gigantic, black holes that are impossible to cover up because there's so much time in between games and it's just that much more time to focus on a single team.
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05-09-2007, 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Darth Ape
Turns out Hollinger was right all along about the Mavs. I'm thinking he might be right here as well.
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Eat shit, primate. You just happen to like what he said, it's not some intellectual breakthrough.
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05-09-2007, 11:24 AM
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Give me a break. Baron will not continue to shoot 50% from the 3 point line. They played out of their minds against us. GS is not even close to the 2nd best team. They are not as good as the Spurs, Pistons or Suns and probably at least 2 other teams mentioned above.
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