Official Dirk is Great Thread - Page 31 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

fluid.forty.one · 01-30-2011, 07:33 PM

Apparently he won't do it, but I'd much rather Dirk take the time off and rest...

iella · 02-01-2011, 04:39 PM

Lots of people were hating on Carlisle for his strange substitution patterns with Dirk in the past few weeks... though it be madness, yet there was method in't.

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Mavs coach Rick Carlisle altered Nowitzki's substitution pattern, playing him in shorter bursts to try to preserve his wind. It seems to have worked. The extra breaks also enabled Nowitzki to log just 33 minutes in the last two games, his fewest during the current five-game win streak.

Dirk Nowitzki is settling back into rhythm

CadBane · 02-01-2011, 04:58 PM

That snippet shows no bearing if it worked or not. All it does is state that Dirk only played 33 minutes...the very fact some were bemoaning...

iella · 02-01-2011, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

That snippet shows no bearing if it worked or not. All it does is state that Dirk only played 33 minutes...the very fact some were bemoaning...

The stated intention of the substitution pattern was to make sure that Dirk had adequate time to get his wind back. Did that stated intention come from Carlisle, Dirk, or the reporter? Not clear. "It seems to have worked" can be interpreted in various ways, but without a clear statement from Dirk on whether or not he considered it to be beneficial, there's no point in discussing this.

Dirk only playing 33 minutes was mentioned as a side benefit of the substitution, not as contributing evidence to the conclusion of the method working.

Just to be clear, I'm not arguing with you.

Kidd Karma · 02-01-2011, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by iella

The stated intention of the substitution pattern was to make sure that Dirk had adequate time to get his wind back. Did that stated intention come from Carlisle, Dirk, or the reporter? Not clear. "It seems to have worked" can be interpreted in various ways, but without a clear statement from Dirk on whether or not he considered it to be beneficial, there's no point in discussing this.

Dirk only playing 33 minutes was mentioned as a side benefit of the substitution, not as contributing evidence to the conclusion of the method working.

Just to be clear, I'm not arguing with you.

Think of it as practice, sprinting lines, then getting a blow if you make times, sprinting lines, then taking free throws. Sprinting lines, then scrimmage for 5 minutes.

Bayliss · 02-01-2011, 05:06 PM

The only time I questioned Carlisle's decision to sit Dirk was one of the games (can't remember which) where he sat Dirk for like 2 minutes in the middle of the 4th when the other team was making a huge comeback.

I think if you are going to rest Dirk and he aint playing 12 minutes (the whole quarter), then in the 4th I think it would be be better to do it earlier rather than later.

BGMaverick9 · 02-01-2011, 05:34 PM

There will be some more Dirk stuff up on MMB early tomorrow.

sefant77 · 02-01-2011, 06:03 PM

I would prefer Kidds minutes being down because right now his minutes jumped back to 33:30 a game...

bernardos70 · 02-02-2011, 12:27 AM

Anyway... did anyone watch Tosh.0 tonight? He did a Web Redemption of the girl who forgot the national anthem in the Portland vs. Dallas game, and Maurice Cheeks helped her.... Tosh mentioned Dirk and she goes "he gave me a high 5 afterwards." Then Tosh went on to say Dirk was a Nazi, etc. as expected. Anyway, as if we needed another account of how nice Dirk is as a person.

LonghornDub · 02-02-2011, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bernardos70

Anyway... did anyone watch Tosh.0 tonight? He did a Web Redemption of the girl who forgot the national anthem in the Portland vs. Dallas game, and Maurice Cheeks helped her.... Tosh mentioned Dirk and she goes "he gave me a high 5 afterwards." Then Tosh went on to say Dirk was a Nazi, etc. as expected. Anyway, as if we needed another account of how nice Dirk is as a person.

Just caught it on my DVR. Great stuff. The girl has become pretty decent looking, too.

iella · 02-02-2011, 01:02 AM

Whenever I need to remember how nice of a guy Dirk is, I think of this video.

fluid.forty.one · 02-02-2011, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by iella

Whenever I need to remember how nice of a guy Dirk is, I think of this video.

so good

dude1394 · 02-02-2011, 06:52 AM

Who the **** is Tosh.0 and why would he get away using the n-word on dirk!!

Rick41 · 02-02-2011, 07:55 AM

I absolutely loathe that retard Daniel Tosh and want to punch whoever thought it was a bright idea to give him a whole half hour on television. I hate him even more after reading that.

Dirk >>> Tosh.

LonghornDub · 02-02-2011, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

Who the **** is Tosh.0 and why would he get away using the n-word on dirk!!

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Originally Posted by Rick41

I absolutely loathe that retard Daniel Tosh and want to punch whoever thought it was a bright idea to give him a whole half hour on television. I hate him even more after reading that.

Dirk >>> Tosh.

He was kidding. He's a comedian (regardless of whether you find him funny). It's his job.

Ya'll chill.

Rick41 · 02-02-2011, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

He was kidding. He's a comedian (regardless of whether you find him funny). It's his job.

Ya'll chill.

I know it was a joke, but Tosh is the bigger joke.

Edit: Don't want to hijack this thread, back to Dirk's awesomeness.

dude1394 · 02-02-2011, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

He was kidding. He's a comedian (regardless of whether you find him funny). It's his job.

Ya'll chill.

So it's his job to make bigoted remarks? It would be one thing if there were a bunch of german comics making self-references to n*** and everyone yuked it up about it. Like stupid black comedians and rappers do to themselves.

But last time I looked I've never seen dirk rapping about the n-word and talking up how cool they were. In fact it's the one thing that he's specifically gets upset about. Enough to try and find the idiot who is yelling it at him AND noticing how many times it happens in arenas.

So just because someone is stupid enough to yell racial epithets doesn't mean he gets a pass on this.

I'm getting a little more pissed thinking about it to be honest. At what venue was this done? EDIT: Never mind looked him up...

Wonder why he didn't call moe cheeks something racial and bigoted?

And agreed...we need to get this crap outta dirks thread..

LonghornDub · 02-02-2011, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

So it's his job to make bigoted remarks? It would be one thing if there were a bunch of german comics making self-references to n*** and everyone yuked it up about it. Like stupid black comedians and rappers do to themselves.

Dude. Tosh is German.

And just to reiterate: he is a comedian. You take things way too damn seriously, bro. That's not to say you have to think he's funny, but recognize him for what he is.

Lighten up. Dirk would.

dude1394 · 02-02-2011, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

Dude. Tosh is German.

And just to reiterate: he is a comedian. You take things way too damn seriously, bro. That's not to say you have to think he's funny, but recognize him for what he is.

Lighten up. Dirk would.

Then he can call himself the n-word all he wants. But when BaD radio brought the subject up, dirk didn't think it was funny. I expect he wouldn't think it's that funny either. In general I'm not a big believer in bigoted statements, comedian or not.

SMC0007 · 02-02-2011, 03:14 PM

Fwiw Tosh can be funny, he's just not on the level of Bill Burr or Zach Galifianakis. I throw Dirks name in here now so I too have kept this thread about Dirk.

bernardos70 · 02-02-2011, 03:53 PM

Wow, I wish I hadn't brought it up. Tosh is hilarious, but he pushes the envelope. I guess his show isn't as popular as I thought, because I certainly didn't predict this.

I think Dirk would have laughed, and taking it out of the context created by the video itself it can make it sound bad. But it wasn't. Zach is genius, Bill Burr is excellent.

Let's keep it on topic though, so here's another nugget:

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Originally Posted by Rick Carlisle

What is causing Dirk’s recovery to be slower than normal?

Well, I think there is something that we all have to realize, and that is we have all become accustomed to a level of greatnessand taking it for granted for a long time. Now its only my third year, and a lot of you guys have been around here a lot longer than that…and so I would just remind everybody that we all are really privileged to be watching one of the truly all time greats. The effect that he has on our entire team is phenomenally high. His presence influences our team probably more than any other great player in this league because it’s so unique. There aren’t many seven-foot guys and probably aren’t any that require a guy glued to him at twenty-four feet from the basket. That just creates a great amount of space which contributes to a lot of great things offensively. His link defensively was sorely missed when he was out too. Then you factor in the fact that we loose Caron [Butler]; there’s your number two scorer, depending on him and Jet, but they are both different type of players and so it becomes an even greater sort of stress on the situation. I think we are all just very lucky that we have been able to experience life with Dirk Nowitzki on this team, because it’s special.

Check it out here

LonghornDub · 02-02-2011, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bernardos70

Wow, I wish I hadn't brought it up. Tosh is hilarious, but he pushes the envelope. I guess his show isn't as popular as I thought, because I certainly didn't predict this.

It's the highest-rated show on Comedy Central, including South Park and the Daily Show, so it's pretty popular. But it's obviously not for everyone. To each his own.

Oh, and in the spirit of the thread...Dirk is sexy and comprised 94.6% of sheer basketball talent and glory. I liked that one time he hit that one shot.

mavs777 · 02-02-2011, 07:45 PM

Dirk has made 11 fgs in the final :24 of one possession games since 2009 - more than any other player

sefant77 · 02-02-2011, 08:59 PM

22k points.

If he averages ~20PPG over the next 3 years he is Top 10 alltime...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...ts_career.html

tcat075 · 02-03-2011, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

22k points.

If he averages ~20PPG over the next 3 years he is Top 10 alltime...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...ts_career.html

It's not out of the question that he could hit 30,000. He'd have top play until he's in his late 30's, which I'm not sure he wants to do, but its really amazing to see that he could easily be up there if he wanted, provided his health stays its usual Dirk-y.

fluid.forty.one · 02-02-2011, 09:55 PM

double post

fluid.forty.one · 02-02-2011, 09:56 PM

Dirk is 179 points away from Clyde the Glyde.

Skywalker · 02-03-2011, 08:56 AM

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Among 22,000, Dirk's points coming efficiently

NEW YORK -- For anyone who didn't know, Dirk Nowitzki reached 22,000 career points when he capped the first half Wednesday against the New York Knicks with two free throws to give him 13 points for the game.

"Really? I didn’t even know that,” Nowitzki said after he scored 29 points on 10-of-16 shooting in the Mavs' 113-97 victory. “It’s been a pretty sweet ride for me the last 13 years, but one thing is missing. We all know what we’re chasing and that’s ultimately the championship. I signed on for another four years, so hopefully one of these years I can reach my goal."

Dirk said the same thing in December when he passed Larry Bird on the NBA's all-time scoring list in another impressive win at Orlando.

But, why ruin another rare-air milestone with talk of an elusive championship during frigid February? Nowitzki became just the 24th player to reach 22,000 points. He takes 22,016 career points into Friday's game at the Boston Celtics.

Mavs coach Rick Carlisle won't do it.

"There's a few guys who have done it in history, but Dirk is a unique guy," Carlisle said. "There's nobody that has worked at developing his game more than he has in the history of the league. And I put him up against [Larry] Bird and all those guys that have the great work ethic and great reputations as hard workers. There's a reason the ball goes in the basket. That's because he's great and he's put in the time and the hours."

Nowitzki continued his recent shooting surge against the Knicks, connecting on 10-of-16 shots and scoring his 29 points in only 32 minutes. And that might be the most hopeful number of all. In years past, including earlier this season, Nowitzki has had big scoring games, but he's often had the burden of carrying the scoring load and playing upward of 38 minutes.

But, as the Mavs did during their 12-game win streak, they are again moving the ball around offensively, getting five, six and seven players in double figures. With Nowitzki shooting it at such a high percentage and making the smart play if his shot isn't there, his teammates are benefitting from open looks.

During this six-game winning streak, the Mavs have scored more than 100 points five times and at least 111 points three times.

"Like I was doing it in November, December, I was scoring efficiently. I think that was the biggest plus for me early in the season where I didn’t have to work as hard," Nowitzki said. "I didn’t have to hoist 30 shots to get my 23, 24 points. If I’m efficient out there, if I get double-teammed move the ball and that’s what I’ve been doing all season, scoring efficiently, seeing what they give me and if it’s not there swing the ball, run a pick and roll and let somebody else get a shot. Moving the ball, sharing the ball has been working pretty well."

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/maver...0-and-counting

dude1394 · 02-03-2011, 09:24 AM

Nice RC...Nice...Dirk the Work...

dude1394 · 02-03-2011, 09:26 AM

From the NYTimes writeup...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/03/sp...ref=basketball

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Shawne Williams, playing again after a one-game suspension for fighting, was ineffective at both ends of the court, scoring just 2 points while struggling to guard Nowitzki. He fouled out in just 24 minutes.

With Wilson Chandler again resting a sore calf, the Knicks’ frontcourt rotation was thin, and their options for defending Nowitzki, limited. Ronny Turiaf opened the game against Nowitzki, then gave way to Williams, Timofey Mozgov and Bill Walker.

Usually Lurkin · 02-03-2011, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

From the NYTimes writeup...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/03/sp...ref=basketball

yeah. Wilson Chandler would have totally shut Dirk down, man.

b_o_r · 02-10-2011, 08:03 PM

Dirk on the "Cleveland Show"

There is a video of his guest spot here

BUMP · 02-03-2011, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

From the NYTimes writeup...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/03/sp...ref=basketball

I still lol whenever Mike D'Antoni mentions the need for his teams to improve their defenses.

If he didn't get it now, he'll never get it. He's basically Don Nelson Jr.

fluid.forty.one · 02-03-2011, 01:57 PM

hmm.. I wonder if Dirk will get into the all star game tonight.......

BGMaverick9 · 02-03-2011, 02:01 PM

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There was one possession in Wednesday's game against the New York Knicks where Dirk Nowitzki was racing down the court in an attempt to block Tony Douglas' layup. He was not able to get the block but the bigger thing to take away was the fact he made the attempt. It's hard to imagine that Nowitzki could have the ability to make that attempt two weeks ago. Two weeks after his return from a sprained right knee, Nowitzki is regaining the shooting touch that had him primed to overpass his career-best field-goal percentage (50.2 percent). He achieved that shooting percentage during his MVP season of 2006-07.

In the first seven games back from the injury, Nowitzki went 43-110 from the field (39%) and the forward looked like he returned too soon from his injury. Over the last three games, Nowitzki has looked like the sharpshooter the Mavs had prior to the injury as he went 25-38 (66%) from the field. "I feel better, especially in the second halves," Nowitzki said. "I feel like I can make stronger moves again. My legs are there. My wind is better. We’re still going with the two breaks at half, which we usually have before I got hurt, but it definitely hurts me get out a minute or two, even in the fourth quarter I get another rest. So, we’ll see how long we’ll keep that up."

read the rest at http://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2011/2/...ciency-is-back

and the last quote is FTW worthy

Underdog · 02-03-2011, 02:58 PM

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http://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2011/2/...ciency-is-back

"Talk about MVP candidates, if you look at what happened to us when he was out, if you look at his plus-minus, I think he’s the number one plus-minus guy in the the entire league," Carlisle said. "Based on that, he should be the MVP. That means he’s the most valuable to our team than any other star is to theirs. And so his presence on the floor and his healthy presence is huge for us."

I knew Dirk's +/- was good, but I didn't know his +27 was a league-high...

#41 · 02-03-2011, 04:57 PM

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I knew Dirk's +/- was good, but I didn't know his +27 was a league-high...

Well, he's right up there, just behind 2 (3 if you count Shaq) Celtics per-minute wise:
http://www.nba.com/statistics/plusmi...&split=9&team=

Kidd Karma · 02-03-2011, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by #41

Well, he's right up there, just behind 2 (3 if you count Shaq) Celtics per-minute wise:
http://www.nba.com/statistics/plusmi...&split=9&team=

Toss in the fact taht our margin of victory is 3, while the Celtics margin is 2nd best in the league at 7.8.

Great another stat to show Dirk's worthiness for MVP. The Miami split, any chance Dirk gets it?

CadBane · 02-03-2011, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by #41

Well, he's right up there, just behind 2 (3 if you count Shaq) Celtics per-minute wise:
http://www.nba.com/statistics/plusmi...&split=9&team=

Wrong.

That's an entirely different stat. He's talking about ON/OFF COURT PLUS MINUS, which Dirk leads the NBA in.

http://www.82games.com/1011/1011DAL.HTM

(not updated since last week)

fluid.forty.one · 02-03-2011, 03:06 PM

baller