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g30hd3 · 04-02-2012, 09:29 PM

Foye.. 7-13 3's

nowhereman · 04-02-2012, 09:30 PM

LOL

Bayliss · 04-02-2012, 09:30 PM

Really Dirk? You just walk away from him?

adonis · 04-02-2012, 09:30 PM

Did Dirk just give Foye the 3 point shot?

GhostFace · 04-02-2012, 09:30 PM

Did Dirk fall asleep?

Rick41 · 04-02-2012, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cowboyuptx

I hate to say it, but this game is still very winnable... Down 16 with over 8 to play, we can do that... Get a couple more stops, get Dirk into beast mode and you never know...

Why would you hate to say that?

Bayliss · 04-02-2012, 09:31 PM

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Look, we clearly don't like each other nor respect each others' opinions. But get over it.

Chill. I don't hate you.

It was a joke....

41N · 04-02-2012, 09:31 PM

are they kidding me? they make some baskets and give foye two WIDE OPEN three pointer? what is wrong with them? seriously...

cowboyuptx · 04-02-2012, 09:31 PM

WTF was that?????????????????

I'll say it again, Kidd accounts for a lot more than what shows up on the stat sheet...... This is easily the worst I can remember seeing this team play this year...

nowhereman · 04-02-2012, 09:31 PM

You know, Foye hasn't really made many contested threes. It's all the late close-outs and inexplicable non-coverages where he's making his money. Cardinal closed out on him a little and we actually saw some misses.

GhostFace · 04-02-2012, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bayliss

Really Dirk? You just walk away from him?

If we lose this game does the other guy that started the Magic GDT start the next one? How does it work since the cycle was broken?

adonis · 04-02-2012, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

Carter 1-6. Yet all the hate for Beaubois.

Carter doesn't shoot well. But Carter knows how to play Basketball.

Bayliss · 04-02-2012, 09:32 PM

Mavs suffer so much without Kidd.

mavsfan1000 · 04-02-2012, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by adonis

Carter doesn't shoot well. But Carter knows how to play Basketball.

That's all Carter was supposed to do. We all know his defense is awful.

nowhereman · 04-02-2012, 09:34 PM

Alright. Time to go 2011 playoffs on these mofos.

Como11 · 04-02-2012, 09:34 PM

Does no one else agree with me? This team plays with zero energy. TWO DAYS of rest and you come out to play like this. It has to be because of the team's lack of chemistry.

adonis · 04-02-2012, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

That's all Carter was supposed to do. We all know his defense is awful.

Well, he doesn't dribble the basketball for the entire possession while chucking up a bad contested 3 point attempt with 3 guys on his team wide open.

GhostFace · 04-02-2012, 09:35 PM

Our 90% FT shooter just went 0/2. When it isn't our night we get trashed.

jleefilled · 04-02-2012, 09:35 PM

Shut it down.

cowboyuptx · 04-02-2012, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick41

Why would you hate to say that?

Because they'd showed nothing up to that point to justify believing that a comeback is a realistic possibility...

GhostFace · 04-02-2012, 09:38 PM

Well, Dirk is done for the night.

41N · 04-02-2012, 09:38 PM

yeaaaah, lets go, yiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

adonis · 04-02-2012, 09:38 PM

West should sit as well. We can't afford to have Roddy as the starting PG. You don't want to see a guy throwing up 18 bad shots a night hitting 5 of them while dribbling a world record.

cowboyuptx · 04-02-2012, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Como11

Does no one else agree with me? This team plays with zero energy. TWO DAYS of rest and you come out to play like this. It has to be because of the team's lack of chemistry.

I think there's decent chemistry when Kidd's in there, but they really lack flow when he's doesn't play at all... Also, I think they could have a little better chemistry if this weren't Delonte's 3rd game back after a long layoff...

Popeye · 04-02-2012, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by adonis

Well, he doesn't dribble the basketball for the entire possession while chucking up a bad contested 3 point attempt with 3 guys on his team wide open.

He takes ill advised shots all the time.

41N · 04-02-2012, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by adonis

West should sit as well. We can't afford to have Roddy as the starting PG. You don't want to see a guy throwing up 18 bad shots a night hitting 5 of them while dribbling a world record.

you talk about them like west played way better than roddy. they both played equally bad. carter was also awful. and i didn't thought that could happen but jets defense decreased to an alltime low...
that are the reasons why we lose by 20...

markus1234 · 04-02-2012, 09:45 PM

reality check.

GhostFace · 04-02-2012, 09:45 PM

Lol @ Yi.

markus1234 · 04-02-2012, 09:48 PM

Roddy took 6 threes in 16 minutes.

I think there is nothing more to add about our offense.

4Dirk1Nowitzki · 04-02-2012, 09:50 PM

so what was that?

b_o_r · 04-02-2012, 09:51 PM

The whole back court was trash tonight. Pretty much the whole team as well. I wonder if having a Casino Night Out less than 24 hours before the game was such a good idea?

The team lacked chemistry and energy from the opening tip.

GhostFace · 04-02-2012, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Dirk1Nowitzki

so what was that?

Something we'd all rather pretend never happened.

bobbyfg7 · 04-02-2012, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GhostFace

If we lose this game does the other guy that started the Magic GDT start the next one? How does it work since the cycle was broken?

I like how I'm "the other guy". You strive for your posts to be more quality than quantity and yet I'm less recognizable than mavsfan1000.

DevinHarriswillstart · 04-03-2012, 08:43 AM

Cracks me up that if the whole team plays bad, then it is all Roddy's fault. Scapegoat much?

Bayliss · 04-03-2012, 03:56 PM

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Cracks me up that if the whole team plays bad, then it is all Roddy's fault. Scapegoat much?

With great power comes great responsibility. So if he doesn't want it then he should just sit his @ss right next to Dominique Jones.

Roddy is supposed to be a top 5 Maverick this year, in fact top 3. But is he? Not even close. In fact he is one of the bottom players. The sad thing is... he, Carter, and Odom are fighting for that spot as the "worst player who should be productive" label. And it aint like carlisle other options to turn to out there so he has to play them.

And yes, Roddy stinks, the same as Odom and Carter.

DevinHarriswillstart · 04-03-2012, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bayliss

With great power comes great responsibility. So if he doesn't want it then he should just sit his @ss right next to Dominique Jones.

Roddy is supposed to be a top 5 Maverick this year, in fact top 3. But is he? Not even close. In fact he is one of the bottom players. The sad thing is... he, Carter, and Odom are fighting for that spot as the "worst player who should be productive" label. And it aint like carlisle other options to turn to out there so he has to play them.

And yes, Roddy stinks, the same as Odom and Carter.

Um no, he doesn't. Just because you had those expectations doesn't mean that everyone else did. One hoped he would be a top player, but the team didn't even have a training camp. Roddy has had ONE full training camp in his entire basketball career. The team is hardly even able to practice this season. Plus, he had a pretty good March overall. Is he Tony Parker? No, but stinks the same as Carter (lately) and Odom? Ridiculous...

Bayliss · 04-03-2012, 04:48 PM

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Um no, he doesn't. Just because you had those expectations doesn't mean that everyone else did. One hoped he would be a top player, but the team didn't even have a training camp. Roddy has had ONE full training camp in his entire basketball career. The team is hardly even able to practice this season. Plus, he had a pretty good March overall. Is he Tony Parker? No, but stinks the same as Carter and Odom? Ridiculous...

Well, there was a reason why last year he was in the starting unit for so long. There is a reason why Dirk at one time called him the future.

And it isn't about whether he is good against the sh*tty teams in the league. Those sh*tty teams are not the ones the Mavs will see in the playoffs. What Roddy needs to be good against is the elite teams in the league. And that, he sucks at.

The Mavs need him to be one the top 5. They need him to replace parts of what Stevenson and Barea brought to the team. But he just doesn't. He should be a goods defender. He should be a good penetrator. But he just isn't.

And expecting him to be a key contributor is not asking too much. And that is all the Top 5 is... a key contributor.

Last year the Top 5 Mavs:

Dirk
Chandler
Kidd
Marion
Terry

And with Chandler gone... Kidd aging and not playing big minutes... same thing with Dirk/Marion/Terry.... no reason why he shouldn't be Top 5. Barea would have been expected to be Top 5 if he was still here.

DevinHarriswillstart · 04-03-2012, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bayliss

Well, there was a reason why last year he was in the starting unit for so long. There is a reason why Dirk at one time called him the future.

And it isn't about whether he is good against the sh*tty teams in the league. Those sh*tty teams are not the ones the Mavs will see in the playoffs. What Roddy needs to be good against is the elite teams in the league. And that, he sucks at.

The Mavs need him to be one the top 5. They need him to replace parts of what Stevenson and Barea brought to the team. But he just doesn't. He should be a goods defender. He should be a good penetrator. But he just isn't.

And expecting him to be a key contributor is not asking too much. And that is all the Top 5 is... a key contributor.

Last year the Top 5 Mavs:

Dirk
Chandler
Kidd
Marion
Terry

And with Chandler gone... Kidd aging and not playing big minutes... same thing with Dirk/Marion/Terry.... no reason why he shouldn't be Top 5. Barea would have been expected to be Top 5 if he was still here.

Yeah, last year he started at shooting guard and should this season as well. Unfortunately, injuries have forced him to play pg which I will agree just isn't his position. If the Mavs get Dwill, then all the pressure will be off of Roddy to be a 1. Keep West, don't resign Terry, and Roddy will be much better off imo. I've tried to avoid using this season as an excuse for many of the Mavs problems, but developing a player like Roddy requires a full training camp and a more defined role. Maybe he'll never be what we hope, but I still give it a real season before giving up. He definitely has the ability and has showed it in more than just a few games.

b_o_r · 04-03-2012, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bayliss

Well, there was a reason why last year he was in the starting unit for so long. There is a reason why Dirk at one time called him the future.

And it isn't about whether he is good against the sh*tty teams in the league. Those sh*tty teams are not the ones the Mavs will see in the playoffs. What Roddy needs to be good against is the elite teams in the league. And that, he sucks at.

The Mavs need him to be one the top 5. They need him to replace parts of what Stevenson and Barea brought to the team. But he just doesn't. He should be a goods defender. He should be a good penetrator. But he just isn't.

And expecting him to be a key contributor is not asking too much. And that is all the Top 5 is... a key contributor.

Last year the Top 5 Mavs:

Dirk
Chandler
Kidd
Marion
Terry

And with Chandler gone... Kidd aging and not playing big minutes... same thing with Dirk/Marion/Terry.... no reason why he shouldn't be Top 5. Barea would have been expected to be Top 5 if he was still here.

That whole post.....ugh...You need to put down whatever you drinking.

He was in the starting lineup last year out of necessity. Terry didn't want to start and Carlisle had to be coaxed by the leaders to start DS in the beginning and end of the year. Towards the middle of the year, Stevenson became ineffective and the offense was getting off to even slower starts. So Carlisle made the switch. The starting unit got off to better starts, however, Roddy was a foul magnet. Two weeks prior to Roddy being benched, he also went into a shooting slump and looked lost.

On to this year
For someone who was labeled as "bench depth" by the coach in training camp, he has played a significant role in at least 10 of the teams wins. The majority teams can't field quality players after their starting 5, yet the Mavs 8th-9th man off the bench has been very productive. Roddy's progress is fine. Do I wish his lows weren't as low as they were like last night, of course. But that is the nature of being inexperienced and having your "learning time" cut by injuries, a lockout, and being on a veteran team.

I wish some of you guys would followed these lottery bound/ mid pack teams nightly and look at their young'ins. The Griffins, Roses, and James' who are ready to contribute from day one and nightly are the exception not the rule. Young players struggle. I get to watch the former 3yr starter, player of the year, and 2nd overall pick, Evan Turner, put up the same stats as the Mavs 25th pick.

dude1394 · 04-03-2012, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Yeah, last year he started at shooting guard and should this season as well. Unfortunately, injuries have forced him to play pg which I will agree just isn't his position. If the Mavs get Dwill, then all the pressure will be off of Roddy to be a 1. Keep West, don't resign Terry, and Roddy will be much better off imo. I've tried to avoid using this season as an excuse for many of the Mavs problems, but developing a player like Roddy requires a full training camp and a more defined role. Maybe he'll never be what we hope, but I still give it a real season before giving up. He definitely has the ability and has showed it in more than just a few games.

They had jet playing point for a while with roddy out there.