GDT: game 55 - Spurs (11-43) at Mavs (31-23) 7:30

[rimrocker]

Originally Posted by saclare

Agree with those first two

Luka is more just Kidd/Dirk and maybe some Brewer in him but Marion is tough to compare to lol

Kyrie is Kidd/Jet/Barea and more

Washington, Green, and DJJ are a mix of Marion/Stevenson

THJ is a discount Peja/Jet mix

Hardy is Jet in the making

Maxi is Cardinal

Powell close to what Mahinmi provided

Exum is on his way to being the Caron Butler of this team

I see Hardy as Roddy B. and Morris as Cardinal.
We are a Marion away from from being top tier imo.

[saclare]

Originally Posted by rimrocker

I see Hardy as Roddy B. and Morris as Cardinal.
We are a Marion away from from being top tier imo.

I thought about Roddy but then thought again about impact. I think Hardy has been closer to Jet than Roddy for that particular year. Either one kinda fits, though.

I gotta say I was going more for the white on white comparison haha but amount of PT says Morris. But Cardinal's younger game is essentially Maxi

[Scoobay]

Originally Posted by saclare

I thought about Roddy but then thought again about impact. I think Hardy has been closer to Jet than Roddy for that particular year. Either one kinda fits, though.

I gotta say I was going more for the white on white comparison haha but amount of PT says Morris. But Cardinal's younger game is essentially Maxi

let's not undersell Maxi... they're both bigs that can shoot the 3. they're both white?

Maxi when on is an above average defender and shot blocker. Cardinal i remember since college days and in terms of defense the best i could say about him is scrappy and annoying and the type to try to get under your skin or draw a charge but not by any means a good defender and definitely not a shot blocker.

[rimrocker]

Originally Posted by Scoobay

let's not undersell Maxi... they're both bigs that can shoot the 3. they're both white?

Maxi when on is an above average defender and shot blocker. Cardinal i remember since college days and in terms of defense the best i could say about him is scrappy and annoying and the type to try to get under your skin or draw a charge but not by any means a good defender and definitely not a shot blocker.

Back in the day there were players labeled as "Garbage Men".
Those were the blue collar guys who did the dirty work and rarely scored but seemed to have a critical role.

Kurt Rambis was the ultimate "Garbage Man".
AC Green and Popeye Jones were those types of players as well.

Cardinal to me was one of the last of those type of players.
I'm not sure Maxi fits that label because those are becoming, or have become extinct.

[saclare]

Originally Posted by rimrocker

Back in the day there were players labeled as "Garbage Men".
Those were the blue collar guys who did the dirty work and rarely scored but seemed to have a critical role.

Kurt Rambis was the ultimate "Garbage Man".
AC Green and Popeye Jones were those types of players as well.

Cardinal to me was one of the last of those type of players.
I'm not sure Maxi fits that label because those are becoming, or have become extinct.

Exactly, I think Maxi is the new age role as they're asked to do a bit more. And Scoobay is right, it probably undersells Maxi a bit but we are comparing two rosters a decade apart, not gonna be perfect lol

[saclare]

Originally Posted by Scoobay

let's not undersell Maxi... they're both bigs that can shoot the 3. they're both white?

Maxi when on is an above average defender and shot blocker. Cardinal i remember since college days and in terms of defense the best i could say about him is scrappy and annoying and the type to try to get under your skin or draw a charge but not by any means a good defender and definitely not a shot blocker.

It's a joke and meant to make fun of the lazy "analysts" -- us Mavs fans have certainly had to endure as much through Dirk and now Luka.