I think Parsons will not be around after this contract ....

[spreedom]

And FWIW I'm currently in the "offer Parsons a max contract at 12:01 on the first day of free agency" camp.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by spreedom

And FWIW I'm currently in the "offer Parsons a max contract at 12:01 on the first day of free agency" camp.

I don't see a better option unless Durant comes knocking down our door at the stroke of midnight (especially if Parsons keeps this pace up through the rest of the season...)

[Bryan_Wilson]

Originally Posted by Underdog

I don't see a better option unless Durant comes knocking down our door at the stroke of midnight (especially if Parsons keeps this pace up through the rest of the season...)

Yup, that one.

[Dtownsfinest]

Originally Posted by spreedom

And FWIW I'm currently in the "offer Parsons a max contract at 12:01 on the first day of free agency" camp.

Yeah I mean I think fans are fooling themselves thinking they will get better than Parsons. I'd also have to wonder why would Parsons even come back here at this point though. Unless you just offer him something he can't refuse which is possible.

[spreedom]

Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

Yeah I mean I think fans are fooling themselves thinking they will get better than Parsons. I'd also have to wonder why would Parsons even come back here at this point though. Unless you just offer him something he can't refuse which is possible.

To be honest, short of SAS/GSW/LAC or maybe a team like BOS/TOR clearing enough from the books to offer him a max deal, what incentive is there for him to leave? He's had a couple of years to entrench himself in this culture and on-court system and by all accounts, Carlisle and Cuban are deferring to him quite often. Doesn't mean Rick is always going to give him the green light or always close with him (and TBH, I think we can all say in retrospect that it's good that Parsons was eased in the way he was) but it sounds like he is as close to a de facto front office extension as there is in the league. With the Mavs being able to offer him the keys to the offense going forward AND the most money (factoring in taxes and our ability to give slightly higher salary than other teams with "max space" on their cap) I don't see why he'd leave. I do see a scenario where, if we don't call him literally the instant free agency starts, another team rolls out the red carpet for him and he bolts. I would expect he's going to be absolutely top priority for the front office this summer. If we don't re-sign him, it's because we didn't offer him everything we could... and that would really be a shame.

[Dtownsfinest]

Originally Posted by spreedom

To be honest, short of SAS/GSW/LAC or maybe a team like BOS/TOR clearing enough from the books to offer him a max deal, what incentive is there for him to leave? He's had a couple of years to entrench himself in this culture and on-court system and by all accounts, Carlisle and Cuban are deferring to him quite often. Doesn't mean Rick is always going to give him the green light or always close with him (and TBH, I think we can all say in retrospect that it's good that Parsons was eased in the way he was) but it sounds like he is as close to a de facto front office extension as there is in the league. With the Mavs being able to offer him the keys to the offense going forward AND the most money (factoring in taxes and our ability to give slightly higher salary than other teams with "max space" on their cap) I don't see why he'd leave. I do see a scenario where, if we don't call him literally the instant free agency starts, another team rolls out the red carpet for him and he bolts. I would expect he's going to be absolutely top priority for the front office this summer. If we don't re-sign him, it's because we didn't offer him everything we could... and that would really be a shame.

I'm just trying to put myself into his shoes. What incentive is there to stay? I've heard ramblings about Orlando which I believe is his hometown. I'd question if they are willing to do what they did with Tobias Harris again since they just let him go.

But this team doesn't have any youth. It doesn't really have a future with Dirk being on his last legs though still playing at a solid level.

What can this organization sell ANYONE to come here? That you get to live in the great DFW area? IT would be a lot easier to sell this team if you had some pieces and some youth. The little youth we do have can't get on the court.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

I'm just trying to put myself into his shoes. What incentive is there to stay? I've heard ramblings about Orlando which I believe is his hometown. I'd question if they are willing to do what they did with Tobias Harris again since they just let him go.

But this team doesn't have any youth. It doesn't really have a future with Dirk being on his last legs though still playing at a solid level.

What can this organization sell ANYONE to come here? That you get to live in the great DFW area? IT would be a lot easier to sell this team if you had some pieces and some youth. The little youth we do have can't get on the court.

These days they try to sell team culture. Of course, lots of teams can offer that since it's entirely a subjective selling point.

[BPo001]

Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

I'm just trying to put myself into his shoes. What incentive is there to stay? I've heard ramblings about Orlando which I believe is his hometown. I'd question if they are willing to do what they did with Tobias Harris again since they just let him go.

But this team doesn't have any youth. It doesn't really have a future with Dirk being on his last legs though still playing at a solid level.

What can this organization sell ANYONE to come here? That you get to live in the great DFW area? IT would be a lot easier to sell this team if you had some pieces and some youth. The little youth we do have can't get on the court.

Winning culture, Top 5 coach, best training staff in the NBA, an owner who is willing to spend $$ to make his team better, Dallas is a great place to raise a family, large media market. Not saying these are reasons anyone would want to come here, but I think they are solid selling points. Of course you have to sell the free agent on being a building block going forward. We may lack youth, but sell them on the fact that you're expecting them to take the next step and making them the best player they can be.

[rimrocker]

Originally Posted by BPo001

Winning culture, Top 5 coach, best training staff in the NBA, an owner who is willing to spend $$ to make his team better, Dallas is a great place to raise a family, large media market. Not saying these are reasons anyone would want to come here, but I think they are solid selling points. Of course you have to sell the free agent on being a building block going forward. We may lack youth, but sell them on the fact that you're expecting them to take the next step and making them the best player they can be.

The problem I have with signing Parsons to a max deal is that he, along with Matthews, will tie our hands for several years on being able to sign young players near Parsons caliber. If we are damn sure his ceiling hasn't been reached, and he will be the catalyst going forward, then we should probably resign him to a max deal.
But if he is at or near his ceiling it will be virtually impossible to sign another big name FA and our only hope is getting damn lucky with a lotto bust player or someone like that.

I personally don't feel Parsons has that much more upside but that is what we'll be signing him for....the upside. It's tough for me to see us pay any non-allstar max money but that is what will probably need to happen.