OFFICIAL 2022 Playoffs round WCSF 2 SERIES Mavs and Suns

[G-Man]

Originally Posted by Dallas41

I know some people will keep throwing it out there that Luka will attract FA's but I just don't buy that anymore. It didn't work with Dirk and the Mavs built their rosters via trades not FA's

Perhaps the problem with getting free agents was not Dirk and is not Luka. Maybe the problem was Carlisle.

Remember when they first got Kidd? In one of his early games, think against the Spurs, he had a conflict with RC over who would call the plays. Eventually, they worked it out. But a few years later, we saw the same conflict with Rondo, and that blew up in the Mavs faces big time. I suspect a lot of young stars do not want to be under the thumb of an old control freak.

Now, potential players see a different look Mavs team. We have Luka, who will get anyone better shots, and we have Kidd, who is showing himself to be a great coach. He has made this team that leaked like a sieve into a defensive juggernaut, with the addition of just one player. This is a team that is headed for greatness. It is dramatically more attractive than the post championship Mavs, where most of the key players were just a few seasons away from retirement.

If I'm a talented guy and I want a chance at a ring, Dallas is as good a place as any to have a chance at multiple long playoff runs. And I think Nico will know how to use that to his advantage. He's taken Frank and Chriss from off the scrap heap and made them into decent trade pieces. Kidd has shown that Josh has value at well.

Nico and Kidd are now one of the hottest management teams in the league. If Cuban is willing to open his wallet, I think the sky is the limit.

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by G-Man

Perhaps the problem with getting free agents was not Dirk and is not Luka. Maybe the problem was Carlisle.

Remember when they first got Kidd? In one of his early games, think against the Spurs, he had a conflict with RC over who would call the plays. Eventually, they worked it out. But a few years later, we saw the same conflict with Rondo, and that blew up in the Mavs faces big time. I suspect a lot of young stars do not want to be under the thumb of an old control freak.

Now, potential players see a different look Mavs team. We have Luka, who will get anyone better shots, and we have Kidd, who is showing himself to be a great coach. He has made this team that leaked like a sieve into a defensive juggernaut, with the addition of just one player. This is a team that is headed for greatness. It is dramatically more attractive than the post championship Mavs, where most of the key players were just a few seasons away from retirement.

If I'm a talented guy and I want a chance at a ring, Dallas is as good a place as any to have a chance at multiple long playoff runs. And I think Nico will know how to use that to his advantage. He's taken Frank and Chriss from off the scrap heap and made them into decent trade pieces. Kidd has shown that Josh has value at well.

Nico and Kidd are now one of the hottest management teams in the league. If Cuban is willing to open his wallet, I think the sky is the limit.

I think certainly Carlisle didn't help, but that wasn't it either. The problem is, there are only 3 cities in all of America that are genuine free agent destinations. New York, Los Angeles, and Miami. That's it. Dallas is a decent sized market, but there's nothing noteworthy or for lack of a better word "glamorous" about it.

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by G-Man

Remember when they first got Kidd? In one of his early games, think against the Spurs, he had a conflict with RC over who would call the plays. Eventually, they worked it out. But a few years later, we saw the same conflict with Rondo, and that blew up in the Mavs faces big time. I suspect a lot of young stars do not want to be under the thumb of an old control freak.

To your point about Carlisle, I don't know that he and Kidd ever worked it out. I remember reading a few years ago that the two of them frequently would argue pretty angrily, to the point of cussing each other out, but were very good at hiding it from the public. That could also have been a contributing factor to Kidd not retiring with the Mavs and spending that one weird season with the Knicks.