GDT: Mavs @ Jazz - 2/5/09 - 09:30 PM CST

[twistaeffect2004]

Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

I can see that POV. I think he shows a lot of characteristics of a franchise player. I think Dirk would still come out ahead big time if you're counting games like tonight vs games where he's had to shoulder the load without any real help.

Everyone is going to have their games where it's just not there, it doesn't matter who they are. Dirk is Dirk and he finds a way to balance it out.

Oh I certainly agree. Dirk is the greatest thing to ever happen to Mavericks basketball, and it's not even close. It's just that he does have tendencies to lose his confidence really quickly, and it's hard for him to get it back. Tonight was just a tough one for him. The fans were on him from jump street, and it just never seemed he was able to get his head in the game. This is definitely not something that happens often. Dirk is money.

[Dirkgreatness]

Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

I know its garbage time but seriously why can't Green see anytime? You can't tell me he didn't say or do something to warrant this doghouse he's in. It has to be personal.

I agree. He actually has way more potential than Wright does and has a pretty good outside game.

[Flacolaco]

Dear Mr. NBA schedule maker man and associates,

We don't want to be on national tv anymore.

Not ESPN, not ABC, not TNT. Nothing. Nada.

K?

Thanks,

-Mark Cubans' assistant to his personal assistant

[MVPizzle06]

I want Green to start, and I want to see him play until he matures. Give him the tony parker treatment. He has too much talent and too much skill to be sulking on the bench when a player inferior to him is playing above him.

[BGMaverick9]

Originally Posted by twistaeffect2004

Oh I certainly agree. Dirk is the greatest thing to ever happen to Mavericks basketball, and it's not even close. It's just that he does have tendencies to lose his confidence really quickly, and it's hard for him to get it back. Tonight was just a tough one for him. The fans were on him from jump street, and it just never seemed he was able to get his head in the game. This is definitely not something that happens often. Dirk is money.

One thing I wanted to look at before I jumped the gun on my defense with Dirk v Utah. It's not like he's terrible vs them or that Utah owns him. In the games this year he has been effective. It's just like the bottom fell out for him with the sequence of events that happened in that game. He's had his fair share of good performances vs Utah and in Utah.

He probably put way too much thought into this one tonight and he played himself out of this one.

Plus...he was excited for his Dirkiversary

[fluid.forty.one]

Just remembered that I skipped class (my one evening class) for this. Damn.

[chumdawg]

Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

I'm not sure if I'm explaining this the way I'm meaning to. It's kind of like when I play madden online. If I'm having really, really bad luck (like a botched kick return that gives up a touchdown, or some ridiculous bobble catch by the opposing team) I make things even worse for myself. I think things are going unfairly and it seems like that's always when I try to force something and throw a pick... Throwing that pick almost solidifies the "fact" that it's me against the world.

If you'll think about it, in Dirk's case that says a lot more about the team around him than it does Dirk itself. It's easy to quit when it's just you out there. It's hard to quit when you are responsible for others.

[eyedentifyme]

You know this game was Utah being



and the Mavericks being



Utah was drinking all of the Mav's milkshake.

[Thomas86]

When Dirk plays bad everybody plays bad...oh and before people start to bash the Mavs like always when was the last time the Mavs won at Utah even with Devin?....this was just was a bad game for everybody man but I'm not excuse for the Mavs losing a back to back road game because the Lakers where on a back to back road game and they won.

[bobatundi]

Originally Posted by MVPizzle06

or you could put my entire quote you dumbass

I could...but would it really make you look like any less of a douche...you douche?

[bobatundi]

Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

He obviously meant, "It might be a one game [fluke]".

don't defend him, if he's going to abuse the English language, he's going to be abused in return.

[LonghornDub]

Originally Posted by LonghornDub

This will be a tough out. This feels like one of those nights where we resort to mostly jumpers and the shots aren't falling. We'll need to really lock down on D, especially considering that Utah is a very well-coached offensive team, even when shorthanded.

Called that one.

[xavier]

I wonder how hard it is to have a winning streak these days?
Ohh wait, It seems pretty hard.

[tcat075]

Originally Posted by twistaeffect2004

Seriously... Wright is not a better player than Green is. He just isn't. He can actually hit an open jumpshot on occasion too.

I agree with you to a point. I do think Wright plays very good defense most nights, and he'll get you blocks and steals, something you won't see Green get very often.

On the other hand, Green is exponentially better on the offensive side of the floor. I don't get it. We all complain we need a shooter for this team, and we trade for Carroll, yet a very good 3PT shooter is sitting on the bench. His percentage may not be great, but a lot of those shots come from the beginning of the year. Now, he's knocking down treys which a person in his face.

Green has a good jumper, and obviously has the dunking ability to put together some drives. Wright, on the flip side, is a decent driver some nights and a .320-.350 3PT, IMO. I know his actual percentage is lower, but as of late, he's shot a little better.

Still, he doesn't come to where Green is with his threes, or with his jumper, or probably with his drives, or with his put-backs, or with his ability to recieve lobs, or anything else on the offensive end (except maybe rebounds?).

Green has been sacrificed for his lack of defense, partly as an excuse to why Carlisle isn't playing him, partly because its true. But is Green's defense any worse than Terry's? I don't think so. And Terry plays 35+ minutes a night. Also, I was watching Green's defense last night, and it looked pretty solid. Nothing fancy, but I don't remember him giving up any points.

Its a toss-up on what to do with Green. I, personally, side with the people who say we need to have Green get playing time just so he can get better time, because letting him rot on the bench isn't going to make him better. I'm not saying Green needs to upset Wright's starting spot in the lineup, but I do think that Green should get 15 minutes a game on average. He can bring a scoring option against better defenses, a shooter for poor perimeter defending teams, and an athelete who can hopefully keep up with some of hte faster/stronger players who we otherwise might have trouble matching up with.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by eyedentifyme

You know this game was Utah being



and the Mavericks being



Utah was drinking all of the Mav's milkshake.

...then they beat us to death with a bowling pin...


(awesome)

[LSMF]

Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

I know its garbage time but seriously why can't Green see anytime? You can't tell me he didn't say or do something to warrant this doghouse he's in. It has to be personal.

Same thing I've been wondering, Green > Wright

[alby]

How is Green better than Wright? Because he can jump higher?

[Dirkadirkastan]

Because there was this one time when Green actually hit a jumper.

[fluid.forty.one]

I don't think it's one is that much better than the other. But doesn't that make it even more strange that Wright starts and Green doesn't even get garbage time?

[alby]

Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

Because there was this one time when Green actually hit a jumper.

Our problem is on the defensive end of the court.

[Dirkadirkastan]

Bench guys are specialists. Some give you something offensively, some give you something defensively, but often not both.

[TheMaverick]

Wright has been able to provide the Mavericks with great defense, and a little bit of offense.