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fluid.forty.one · 02-06-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ghazi

But calling the Mavs mediorce is selling them short, I think we're just a good team that isn't championship caliber.

uhhh

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AxdemxO · 02-06-2009, 06:48 PM

I still believe in the team I think they just went away from what worked. Thye let Josh shot too much and ofcourse Dirk sucked

My problem is not the team because I think as a team wer OK, my problem is with Dirk in theses type of games. He totally disappears and let people abuse him and IMO that is much different then having a bad game. Dirk has to learn to deal with these things, but as a TEAM I think wer still OK, a trade wont hurt either though

ghazi · 02-06-2009, 06:48 PM

Owned

Anywho, I was exaggerating. Being truly mediocre would be the 15th best team in the league, I think we're better than that.

Not quite mediocre, not quite a contender, somewhere in the middle.

ghazi · 02-06-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AxdemxO

I still believe in the team I think they just went away from what worked. Thye let Josh shot too much and ofcourse Dirk sucked

My problem is not the team because I think as a team wer OK, my problem is with Dirk in theses type of games. He totally disappears and let people abuse him and IMO that is much different then having a bad game. Dirk has to learn to deal with these things, but as a TEAM I think wer still OK, a trade wont hurt either though

Why do you think we're okay? after all if we somehow make the Finals and play the Celtics Dirk will wither the minute KG pounds his chest, right?

NYMAVGUY · 02-06-2009, 06:53 PM

hey guys. I'm new to the forum. i'm from NY and I love the Mavs. been a fan since Cuban became the guy. In NY they call me MIAMI. KNOW WHY???? Because I was the only guy in the City that took Dallas over Miami in the the Championship in 06. when I came out the next day after Dallas lost the Neighbor yelled, MIAMI!!!! everyone heard and began to taunt. The day after again, MIAMI!!!! Many of the neighbors knew my face but didn't know my real name. So from that day forward i've been known as MIAMI. I'm not from Dallas but I suffer every year WE don't get a Chip. I wish, being from NY, I could have warned u guys about Jason Kidd. The Nets were a slashing team, which fit Kidd a little better, but I still think The Nets would have been better without him. I wish I was a member of the forum a year ago, maybe someone would have heard my screams to get Ron Artest. He's given Houston a toughness that I think they lacked. And respectfully we still lack it. By the way, no one wants to play for the Mavs anymore. Good Players think we are SOFT. So with that being said, I'm glad to be you guys newest member. we can lean on each other. The trade deadline is coming, hopefully we can do something BIG.

Your fellow fan, NYMAVGUY aka MIAMI

ghazi · 02-06-2009, 06:54 PM

You coulda warned us? We're not the ones who made the trade brother.

And hows Ron Artest's toughness working out for Houston? They're a .600 basketball team.

Usually Lurkin · 02-06-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NYMAVGUY

hey guys. I'm new to the forum. i'm from NY and I love the Mavs. been a fan since Cuban became the guy. In NY they call me MIAMI. KNOW WHY???? Because I was the only guy in the City that took Dallas over Miami in the the Championship in 06. when I came out the next day after Dallas lost the Neighbor yelled, MIAMI!!!! everyone heard and began to taunt. The day after again, MIAMI!!!! Many of the neighbors knew my face but didn't know my real name. So from that day forward i've been known as MIAMI. I'm not from Dallas but I suffer every year WE don't get a Chip. I wish, being from NY, I could have warned u guys about Jason Kidd. The Nets were a slashing team, which fit Kidd a little better, but I still think The Nets would have been better without him. I wish I was a member of the forum a year ago, maybe someone would have heard my screams to get Ron Artest. He's given Houston a toughness that I think they lacked. And respectfully we still lack it. By the way, no one wants to play for the Mavs anymore. Good Players think we are SOFT. So with that being said, I'm glad to be you guys newest member. we can lean on each other. The trade deadline is coming, hopefully we can do something BIG.

Your fellow fan, NYMAVGUY aka MIAMI

Devin Harris, is that you?

Mascha99 · 02-06-2009, 07:07 PM

Glad I can post now. I have lurked here for 6 month or so and couldnt post because my spam filter deleted the acknowledgement mail.

Anyway, its fun reading what other Mavs fans have to say about the Mavs.

See you around!

purplefrog · 02-06-2009, 07:09 PM

Imo, this Mavs team is mentally fragile/dumb. I can't come up with another way to interpret this roller coaster season where 30 pt losses follow impressive victories. I've decided to blame all the bad stuff on JHo and Stack being mental midgets. Trade them/cut them/waive them and magically the Mavs will be consistently good again.

I think about it like this. In order to be a championship contender the average IQ needs to be about 125. If you delete JHO's and Stack's scores of 30 and 44 (respectively) the team IQ jumps to 130 or so. So it makes sense to trade them for almost anyone who has some brains. On the other hand since the FO is likely to trade for another knucklehead, waiving them would be the safest thing.

AxdemxO · 02-06-2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ghazi

Why do you think we're okay? after all if we somehow make the Finals and play the Celtics Dirk will wither the minute KG pounds his chest, right?

Like I said a trade wouldnt hurt. BUT I have said it from the start, if the Mavs play right and Howard is that 3rd hustling option, then we can do a lot of good stuff. And I might be in a minority, but I actually do think that we can make the finals with a little luck, just like any other team.

Umm actually that is what would probably happen. But its a good thing that he will have a lot of time between Now and Then to learn how to deal with those situations.

BGMaverick9 · 02-06-2009, 07:21 PM

To add to your point purplefrog:

I think it's going to take multiple moves to fix that issue. Kidd was supposed to be able to help in that aspect, but that clearly hasn't happened. I'm not knockin' Kidd, I love him...but fixing that isn't going to be easy.

BGMaverick9 · 02-06-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AxdemxO

Like I said a trade wouldnt hurt. BUT I have said it from the start, if the Mavs play right and Howard is that 3rd hustling option, then we can do a lot of good stuff. And I might be in a minority, but I actually do think that we can make the finals with a little luck, just like any other team.

Umm actually that is what would probably happen. But its a good thing that he will have a lot of time between Now and Then to learn how to deal with those situations.

I think a trade is absolutely necessary, I'm firm on that now. The problem with your statement is it's true, but very hard to put stock in it.

Do we now just settle for this team showing what it has in the past few weeks? Saying it needs to get hot at the right time, flaws and all. In the meantime you just grind it out like crazy and in the process occasionally take massive beatdowns.

ghazi · 02-06-2009, 07:35 PM

A little luck? Try A LOT of luck.

BGMaverick9 · 02-06-2009, 07:44 PM

I can't say I'm 100% on board with alby's sell it all and get the star with Dirk and Kidd, but I'm in favoring it for sure.

You're trading Josh, Jet, Stack to get something big. Can that actually lead to something? I'm pretty skeptical but I would inquire to see what that would actually get you.

ghazi · 02-06-2009, 07:51 PM

I dont care about the future, I want to win now. 2010 is a pipedream. A player of Dirk's caliber coming along again? We'd be lucky as hell.

When Duncan leaves, the Spurs will probably suck.

When Dirk leaves or exits his prime, the Mavs will probably suck

When KoME the primadonna leaves or exits his prime, the Lakers will probably suck.

The day Lebron retires is the day the cavs look forward to 20-30 win seasons for a long time unless they strike gold in the draft again.

Look at the Bulls after MJ, nothing.

Our beloved Mavs should be in a "win now" mode with our beloved Dirk at 30 years old.

Forget about the future, the future belongs to Lebron, the Jazz, Blazers, Hornets, Magic... in 2 years the Lakers will still be around as well. The Thunder have a nice core, too.

BGMaverick9 · 02-06-2009, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ghazi

Our beloved Mavs should be in a "win now" mode with our beloved Dirk at 30 years old.

Forget about the future, the future belongs to Lebron, the Jazz, Blazers, Hornets, Magic... in 2 years the Lakers will still be around as well. The Thunder have a nice core, too.

Is it just me or did this opinion just recently hit a fever pitch?
BTW, I don't mean that in a bad way.

ghazi · 02-06-2009, 07:58 PM

What you mean by fever pitch

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 02-06-2009, 10:02 PM

Mavs need to go 21-12 the rest of their games to get to 50 wins.

ghazi · 02-06-2009, 10:10 PM

Good math

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 02-06-2009, 10:13 PM

I dunno it's just something I was thinking about. The point is they don't have to be spectacular to get to 50 wins. Just slightly above average (as they have been)

BGMaverick9 · 02-06-2009, 10:57 PM

That would be playing 9 games above .500
which is where we are right now.

Hmmmmm....

ghazi · 02-06-2009, 11:22 PM

If that stuff about Stackhouse being a Mav after the trade deadline is true Im probably gonna kill a kitten.

I love our beloved Stack, but at this point his contract is more valuable to us than his basketball abilities.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 02-06-2009, 11:24 PM

The only thing is his contract is even more valuable in the off-season. Not that I don't want to see him gone ASAP, but they can get more for him after this season. So if that happens I won't be that mad.