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Rick41 · 02-07-2009, 04:16 PM

If Jerry Stackhouse finds himself in a Mavericks uniform once the Feb. 19 trade deadline passes, well, that's fine with him. He actually sounds encouraged by the idea. And while the veteran guard missed his 40th consecutive game Thursday night against Utah, he hopes to return next week for the team's final game before the All-Star break. The reversal stems from a conversation Stackhouse had with Rick Carlisle last week. The Mavericks coach told Stackhouse once he is healthy, he will be given the opportunity to reclaim a consistent role in the rotation. "It changed my whole mind-set of what I was thinking," Stackhouse said. "I just wasn't comfortable with what was being said early on about using me in certain matchups and certain games. As a competitor, I just wasn't ready to accept that. -- Dallas Morning News

bobatundi · 02-07-2009, 04:20 PM

I'm looking at my calendar...it's not April 1...please, please tell me this is a joke.

bernardos70 · 02-07-2009, 04:43 PM

Say it ain't so.

grndmstr_c · 02-07-2009, 04:45 PM

I'm going to make a prediction. If Stack is still a Mav after the trade deadline I'm going to be really, really irritated...by all the whining on this website.

Jesus, people. If he's still here the reason will be simple. Nothing the Mavs could get in exchange for him at this time was: 1) good enough to clearly put the team on the LA/Boston level or 2) worth foregoing the chance to see what they can get for him over the summer when he represents instant savings and can be paired with a first round draft choice.

ghazi · 02-07-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

I'm going to make a prediction. If Stack is still a Mav after the trade deadline I'm going to be really, really irritated...by all the whining on this website.

Jesus, people. If he's still here the reason will be simple. Nothing the Mavs could get in exchange for him at this time was: 1) good enough to clearly put the team on the LA/Boston level or 2) worth foregoing the chance to see what they can get for him over the summer when he represents instant savings and can be paired with a first round draft choice.

When you put it that way, I guess I wont feel that badly

Who knows, maybe he has some game left. I remember at the beginning of the year thinking how Stack and Fin looked horrible for their respective teams. Well, Fin's turned the corner and is still a solid contributor/role player, perhaps our beloved Stack could do the same.

LSMF · 02-07-2009, 05:03 PM

I actually think Stack can still contribute to the team because of all the rest he has gotten, any time Stack is healthy he has proven he is a baller

AxdemxO · 02-07-2009, 05:30 PM

I also think that keeping Stack wont be all that bad, IF we cant get anything good for him. I think he can still help the team

Dtownsfinest · 02-07-2009, 06:37 PM

Man i'd take a 2nd round pick for Stackhouse. I know that's available. I just don't see the point in keeping him here. I'd rather give Green and Wright the minutes at the 2 than throw Stack out there. He's missed half of the season already. He's just going to come in and contribute like there's nothing wrong with him? I just think at this point if you can pick up someone like a spot up shooter or a slasher for Stack then how is that not an upgrade? Stack currently givers us nothing at the 2 guard spot. Maybe 3 years ago but now? I'm not really upset that he's returning. I didn't think we would trade him because "we like our team". But if the option is available why wouldn't you pull it?

Janett_Reno · 02-07-2009, 06:43 PM

If Phx could get Jerry they would have the Big Shaqtus and the Sharp Shooting Stacktus and when Xmas time came around in Az, they would have ShaqAClaus and StackAClaus. What a duo the Suns would have. The StackAttack won't be here much longer even if we get a draftpick.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 02-07-2009, 07:59 PM

There's one reason we all shouldn't blow our top if he is still a Mav after the trade deadline. His value goes up in the offseason because only $2mil is guarenteed next season.

BGMaverick9 · 02-07-2009, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs

There's one reason we all shouldn't blow our top if he is still a Mav after the trade deadline. His value goes up in the offseason because only $2mil is guarenteed next season.

You and grndmstr_c KNOW that's not what people will automatically think of if that happens.

mac222b · 02-07-2009, 08:53 PM

He can help the team-if healthy. Say what you want about him but he's a competitor. If we can't get what we want for him now we'll probably get something better this summer anyway. Win-win.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 02-07-2009, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

You and grndmstr_c KNOW that's not what people will automatically think of if that happens.

Of course not because that's not how this forum operates, but there's no point in taking some other teams garbage just to get rid of a valuable trade chip.

bobatundi · 02-08-2009, 10:18 AM

Well, now that Terry's out for an indefinite period, we might need Stack.

Ouch, that really, really hurt...

tcat075 · 02-08-2009, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bobatundi

Well, now that Terry's out for an indefinite period, we might need Stack.

Ouch, that really, really hurt...

yeah, unfortunately that's kinda what I'm thinking too.

alby · 02-08-2009, 10:36 AM

There was actually a stack sighting on the NBA.com video recap of the game. He was walking with JET to the locker room.

purplefrog · 02-08-2009, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by alby

There was actually a stack sighting on the NBA.com video recap of the game. He was walking with JET to the locker room.

Probably telling him "You just get some rest, don't worry about a thing. I'm coming back and will take all your minutes".

bernardos70 · 02-08-2009, 12:54 PM

Not that surprising. He was on the shootaround here in Miami, which kinda surprised me. DA was working with him.

dude1394 · 02-08-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by alby

There was actually a stack sighting on the NBA.com video recap of the game. He was walking with JET to the locker room.

He's on the bench for every game. I believe he's on the bench for the road trips also.

Sportstudi · 02-08-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

Probably telling him "You just get some rest, don't worry about a thing. I'm coming back and will take all your minutes".

purplefrog · 02-08-2009, 01:59 PM

I look forward to Stack coming back. It's been awhile since I've seen someone dribble the ball off their own foot at crunch time....Ah memories of the good old days.....It's also been awhile since I've seen Stack and JHo on the court at the same time......The bowel.. er... ball (Freudian slip) movement will be amazing.

AxdemxO · 02-08-2009, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

I look forward to Stack coming back. It's been awhile since I've seen someone dribble the ball off their own foot at crunch time....Ah memories of the good old days.....It's also been awhile since I've seen Stack and JHo on the court at the same time......The bowel.. er... ball (Freudian slip) movement will be amazing.

Stack is a good passer, much better then Josh...and if you want to see someone dribble the ball off their foot give it to Bass ; )

tcat075 · 02-08-2009, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AxdemxO

Stack is a good passer, much better then Josh...and if you want to see someone dribble the ball off their foot give it to Bass ; )

Its not too hard to be a better passer than Josh

Tokey41 · 02-08-2009, 07:46 PM

We need Stack's.... toughness?

I've had a personal hatred for him ever since that playoff series against the Spurs where he was given two free throws and was supposed to purposely miss one... and he missed the entire rim (violation). Just when you think a veterans basketball IQ couldn't possibly be any lower. We can keep holding out hope that we get something for him, but if we haven't done anything yet who knows what's actually available... apparently Minnesota plans to waste away the rest of Miller's career or they feel they can get something more.

craggmac · 02-08-2009, 08:49 PM

Man.... we are screwed.

I'm fine with that.

dude1394 · 02-08-2009, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

Man i'd take a 2nd round pick for Stackhouse. I know that's available. I just don't see the point in keeping him here. I'd rather give Green and Wright the minutes at the 2 than throw Stack out there. He's missed half of the season already. He's just going to come in and contribute like there's nothing wrong with him? I just think at this point if you can pick up someone like a spot up shooter or a slasher for Stack then how is that not an upgrade? Stack currently givers us nothing at the 2 guard spot. Maybe 3 years ago but now? I'm not really upset that he's returning. I didn't think we would trade him because "we like our team". But if the option is available why wouldn't you pull it?

You could get a second round pick anytime. no use doing it now. Who's the person you can pick up for stack?

dude1394 · 02-08-2009, 11:27 PM

Well to be honest AWright has spared me to death. He's okay...but that's about it.

alby · 02-09-2009, 03:49 PM

Rick Carlisle is not planning on Jerry Stackhouse playing a big role in the absence of Jason Terry when he returns from his heel injury.
"He's not ready to play yet," Carlisle said after Monday's practice. "I'm not sure what the timetable is. It's been a long road back for him, and we certainly don't want to set him back by rushing him back too soon. But he's certainly one of our options when he becomes healthy." Stackhouse might be worth an add in very deep leagues, but his minutes will likely be minimal in the beginning.

ty · 02-09-2009, 04:01 PM

I'm not looking forward to the return of Stackhouse.

craggmac · 02-09-2009, 04:05 PM

My inner-mavs fan just committed suicide.

alby · 02-09-2009, 04:05 PM

What if he owns and his trade value increases? =]

Sportstudi · 02-09-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by alby

What if he owns and his trade value increases? =]

Would be nice, but I don't buy that. I assume the percentage of Dampier being an All-Star is higher....

DavidDaMonkey · 02-09-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by alby

What if he owns and his trade value increases? =]

This is the kind of thing that you say so that if it does happen, you can pull this little gem out later, and if it doesn't everyone will just assume its a joke and will forget about it.

alby · 02-09-2009, 04:13 PM

^ not completely untrue.

ty · 02-09-2009, 04:23 PM

That's the sad thing about the state of the Mavs. We're one big "what if."

tcat075 · 02-09-2009, 05:49 PM

http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/archi....html#comments

Rick Carlisle isn't ready to rely on Jerry Stackhouse
2:14 PM Mon, Feb 09, 2009 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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The Mavericks could use Jerry Stackhouse's scoring off the bench with Jason Terry out for a while.

Rick Carlisle, however, downplayed the possibility of Stack helping fill the void left by Stack's absence.

"He's not ready to play yet," Carlisle said after today's practice. "I'm not sure what the timetable is. It's been a long road back for him, and we certainly don't want to set him back by rushing him back too soon. But he's certainly one of our options when he becomes healthy."

Stackhouse practiced today and "looked pretty good to me," Dirk Nowitzki said. He got the best of Gerald Green in one-on-one action after the media was allowed into the gym. But Carlisle isn't ready to declare that Stack could play even a few minutes Thursday night against Boston in the final game before the All-Star break.

"We're just going day to day here," Carlisle said. "We've got to see how he responds tomorrow from today, which was one of the harder workouts he's gone through. So we'll see, but there's nothing imminent on Stack playing at this point."

rabbitproof · 02-09-2009, 06:29 PM

Doesn't Stack's contract shrivel to something like 2M next year? How much is that worth in cap space value vs a 7M deal + 3M cash? And what can you get in exchange for a 2M Stack? He's almost filler-level at that point.

Thomas86 · 02-09-2009, 06:32 PM

If Stack can come back healthy and give the Mavs 10 to 15 points off the bench along with Bass and Terry that would be huge man...try to look at it as a good thing because Stack could help this team when healthy.

ty · 02-09-2009, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas86

If Stack can come back healthy and give the Mavs 10 to 15 points off the bench along with Bass and Terry that would be huge man...try to look at it as a good thing because Stack could help this team when healthy.

How many shots he puts up to score those 10 to 15 points is the real question.

Underdog · 02-09-2009, 07:26 PM

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"He's not ready to play yet," Carlisle said after today's practice. "I'm not sure what the timetable is."

My guess is 10 days...