Portland/Dal trade

[Simon2]

Dallas trades: PF Antoine Walker (14.0 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 4.5 apg in 34.6 minutes)
PF Christian Laettner (5.9 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 20.5 minutes)
C Shawn Bradley (3.3 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.3 apg in 11.7 minutes)
SF Eduardo Najera (3.0 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.4 apg in 12.4 minutes)
Dallas receives: PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim (16.3 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 31.6 minutes)
PG Nick Van Exel (12.6 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 5.3 apg in 32.2 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +2.7 ppg, -8.2 rpg, and +0.2 apg.

Portland trades: PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim (16.3 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 31.6 minutes)
PG Nick Van Exel (12.6 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 5.3 apg in 32.2 minutes)
Portland receives: PF Antoine Walker (14.0 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 4.5 apg in 82 games)
PF Christian Laettner (5.9 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 48 games)
C Shawn Bradley (3.3 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.3 apg in 66 games)
SF Eduardo Najera (3.0 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.4 apg in 58 games)
Change in team outlook: -2.7 ppg, +8.2 rpg, and -0.2 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

Dirk and SAR can alternate in the SF, PF and center positions. Put Benga in there and it will be a very mobile front court. That will be a very talented front court too. Also, the Mavs get NVE back. Get some of that "F'em" attitude back. Dallas gets rid of Walker and removes two roster spots. Bradley and Najera won't see the daylight under Nellie.

Portland continues cleaning up their image with squeaky clean players. Walker at SF with Randolf and Ratliff as a frontcourt is pretty good. Bradley can be their backup. Najera comes in for spot relief.

If this doesn't make sense, I am just bored.

[dalmations202]

If all else failed, I might do it.

Could we change out Ratliff for SAR though.................? ?

[Simon2]

It doesn't work salarywise. SAR is crucial because he wants out of Portland. He's threatening a hold out if he isn't traded.

Originally posted by: dalmations202
If all else failed, I might do it.

Could we change out Ratliff for SAR though.................? ?

[mavsfan4life7]

im tired of waiting to do trades...(60 day rule)... if we could make one trade where we get just van exel and then make another trade where we get SAR, that would be great. Are you allowed to do that?

[Jamisonite]

This wont happen...portland is looking forward to being a crap load under the cap

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally posted by: mavsfan4life7
im tired of waiting to do trades...(60 day rule)... if we could make one trade where we get just van exel and then make another trade where we get SAR, that would be great. Are you allowed to do that?

forget about this being nearly impossible and illogical

Dallas trades: Tariq Abdul-Wahad ( ppg, rpg, apg in minutes)
PF Christian Laettner (5.9 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 20.5 minutes)
Dallas receives: PG Nick Van Exel (12.6 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 5.3 apg in 32.2 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +6.7 ppg, -2.1 rpg, and +3.4 apg.

Portland trades: PG Nick Van Exel (12.6 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 5.3 apg in 32.2 minutes)
Portland receives: Tariq Abdul-Wahad ( ppg, rpg, apg in games)
PF Christian Laettner (5.9 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 48 games)
Change in team outlook: -6.7 ppg, +2.1 rpg, and -3.4 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

and it would work. It wouldnt work the other way around though- Nick has to come by himself or else we would have to wait a long time

[Charlie Brown]

another spin. i wouldn't do it, but just an idea.

Dallas trades: PF Antoine Walker (14.0 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 4.5 apg in 34.6 minutes)
SF Jerry Stackhouse (13.9 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 4.0 apg in 29.8 minutes)
PF Christian Laettner (5.9 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 20.5 minutes)
PF Tariq Abdul-Wahad (5.9 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 20.5 minutes)
C Shawn Bradley (3.3 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.3 apg in 11.7 minutes)
SF Josh Howard (8.6 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 1.5 apg in 23.7 minutes)
Dallas receives: PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim (16.3 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 31.6 minutes)
PG Damon Stoudamire (13.4 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 6.1 apg in 38.0 minutes)
C Theo Ratliff (7.9 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 0.8 apg in 31.3 minutes)
SG Ruben Patterson (7.0 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 1.9 apg in 22.6 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -1.1 ppg, -2.6 rpg, and -1.4 apg.

Portland trades: PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim (16.3 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 31.6 minutes)
PG Damon Stoudamire (13.4 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 6.1 apg in 38.0 minutes)
C Theo Ratliff (7.9 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 0.8 apg in 31.3 minutes)
SG Ruben Patterson (7.0 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 1.9 apg in 22.6 minutes)
Portland receives: PF Antoine Walker (14.0 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 4.5 apg in 82 games)
SF Jerry Stackhouse (13.9 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 4.0 apg in 26 games)
PF Christian Laettner (5.9 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 48 games)
PF Tariq Abdul-Wahad (5.9 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 48 games)
C Shawn Bradley (3.3 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.3 apg in 66 games)
SF Josh Howard (8.6 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 1.5 apg in 67 games)
Change in team outlook: +1.1 ppg, +2.6 rpg, and +1.4 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

[Simon2]

The rumor has it that Portland is mulling over the decision to trade SAR for Wally and the Kandiman

Minnesota trades: SG Wally Szczerbiak (10.2 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 1.2 apg in 22.2 minutes)
C Michael Olowokandi (6.5 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 0.6 apg in 21.5 minutes)
Minnesota receives: PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim (16.3 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 31.6 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -0.4 ppg, -1.3 rpg, and +0.2 apg.

Portland trades: PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim (16.3 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 31.6 minutes)
Portland receives: SG Wally Szczerbiak (10.2 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 1.2 apg in 28 games)
C Michael Olowokandi (6.5 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 0.6 apg in 43 games)
Change in team outlook: +0.4 ppg, +1.3 rpg, and -0.2 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

I think Dallas has a better package to offer in that Wally's contract goes to 2009! That will handcuff them to a guy with a foot injury. Also, Blazers gets 3 servicable players instead of two.

Dallas trades: C Shawn Bradley (3.3 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.3 apg in 11.7 minutes)
SF Eduardo Najera (3.0 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.4 apg in 12.4 minutes)
PF Christian Laettner (5.9 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 20.5 minutes)
Dallas receives: PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim (16.3 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 31.6 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +4.1 ppg, -2.6 rpg, and -0.6 apg.

Portland trades: PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim (16.3 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 31.6 minutes)
Portland receives: C Shawn Bradley (3.3 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.3 apg in 66 games)
SF Eduardo Najera (3.0 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.4 apg in 58 games)
PF Christian Laettner (5.9 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 48 games)
Change in team outlook: -4.1 ppg, +2.6 rpg, and +0.6 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

Make the offer Dallas

[LRB]

Simon why on earth would we want to trade our best center for a PF when we have all world Dirk at the PF spot? It's not like we need an expiring contract to trade, we've got plenty of those. That trade makes zero sense to the Mavs IMO.

[Simon2]

Who is our best center? Bradley and his 3.3 ppg or L8 at 5.9 ppg? SAR is way more talented than Bradley, Najera and L8 combined. Most of all, Bradley and Najera don't even see the floor in Nellie's system. Booth is now the best center on the Mavs. Not sure who will start at center but if Bradley didn't start last year, why will he start this year?

The trade makes sense because it trims the roster down. Mavs get a young talented player who wants to prove himself. I guess if you can get a athletic player over 6'10, you always try to get him.

Originally posted by: LRB
Simon why on earth would we want to trade our best center for a PF when we have all world Dirk at the PF spot? It's not like we need an expiring contract to trade, we've got plenty of those. That trade makes zero sense to the Mavs IMO.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally posted by: LRB
Simon why on earth would we want to trade our best center for a PF when we have all world Dirk at the PF spot? It's not like we need an expiring contract to trade, we've got plenty of those. That trade makes zero sense to the Mavs IMO.

If we got SAR, Im pretty sure we'd see Dirk at the 5 a lot more. Not something I'm against but I certainly don't like seeing it.

[Simon2]

I don't like Dirk at center as well but the Mavs play a lot of zone anyway so its not as if Dirk will go straight up 1 on 1 with the leagues centers. Besides, asided from Duncan and Shaq, who will give Dirk problems. Its more of the other way around.

Originally posted by: EricaLubarsky

If we got SAR, Im pretty sure we'd see Dirk at the 5 a lot more. Not something I'm against but I certainly don't like seeing it.

[LRB]

Originally posted by: Simon2
Who is our best center? Bradley and his 3.3 ppg or L8 at 5.9 ppg? SAR is way more talented than Bradley, Najera and L8 combined. Most of all, Bradley and Najera don't even see the floor in Nellie's system. Booth is now the best center on the Mavs. Not sure who will start at center but if Bradley didn't start last year, why will he start this year?

The trade makes sense because it trims the roster down. Mavs get a young talented player who wants to prove himself. I guess if you can get a athletic player over 6'10, you always try to get him.

Simon we do not, and I repeat do not, need big scoring out of our center position. Bradley's PPG was so low because his MPG were so low. Nellie will play Bradley and defensive oriented centers or his fat @$$ will be on the 1st plane out of down. Cubes has laid down the law about D.

Now SAR is a good player, possibly overall more talented than Bradley, but not in defense. SAR is average at best on D. And he's only 6'9" tall. I'd lot rather have a 7' at PF than a 6'9" PF. Playing SAR and Dirk at PF and C over Dirk and Bradley costs use 9" in height. And SAR sucks dog turds when it comes to blocking shots. This would be a major step back IMO from where we are now. We have one of the best centers, if not the best center, in the league at blocking shots who is a good rebounder at the 5 spot and we want to trade him for a good scroring and decent rebounding PF when we already have a great scoring PF and great rebounding PF and want to make him play C where he's not as effective. That's just flat out stoopid IMO.

[Simon2]

Problem is that Nellie doesn't play Bradley. If Nellie will play him, then yes. Keep him by all means. If he just sits there on the bench, I rather have SAR who will see the floor ocassionally.

I see it as trading 3 marginal players for a really good player.

We have one of the best centers, if not the best center, in the league at blocking shots who is a good rebounder at the 5 spot and we want to trade him for a good scroring and decent rebounding PF when we already have a great scoring PF and great rebounding PF and want to make him play C where he's not as effective. That's just flat out stoopid IMO.

[LRB]

Better to have nellie get his ass fired for not playing Bradley and then still have Bradley who the next coach will play.