The Official Michael Jackson Trial Thread - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

Drbio · 03-28-2005, 04:31 PM

I know there have been several threads but none really relating to the trial itself.

Anyways....discuss it here.

I think that Foxnews headline "Blow for Jackson" in regards to the recent ruling allowing his past allegations to be brought to the jury was pretty unfortunate. They have to have edtors for those headlines right?

sike · 03-28-2005, 04:33 PM

sigh...

this reminds me....where the heck is LRB?

mary · 04-06-2005, 10:06 AM

Maid: He showered with a boy
The woman whose son is also an accuser says she decided not to confront Jackson over bathroom scene

BY DIONNE SEARCEY
STAFF CORRESPONDENT

April 6, 2005

SANTA MARIA, Calif. -- Michael Jackson's former maid, who changed his sheets, washed his laundry and even cleaned up after his chimpanzee, testified yesterday that she once saw him showering with a 7-year-old boy.

The woman, whose son told jurors Monday that Jackson fondled him three times when he was young, said she walked into the star's bedroom suite at Neverland one day in 1989 and heard laughter and running water. She said she peeked inside the bathroom and, through a foggy shower door, saw an image of Jackson and what appeared to be a young boy.

On the floor outside the shower door, she said, were Jackson's underwear, white briefs, alongside "little green underwear, neon green, with little characters like Spiderman."

"I was going to talk to them, but then I thought, no, I'd better not, so I left," said the woman, who was Jackson's personal maid from 1986 to 1991.

In this case, prosecutors say Jackson molested a 13-year-old cancer patient; the singer's attorneys say the boy's family sought money from him.

Yesterday, the courtroom entered a time warp as the former maid and her son testified about boys they saw in Jackson's bedroom, their meetings with lawyers and detectives, interviews with tabloid journalists and cash settlements they received from the star - all of which occurred more than a decade ago.

The passage of time tripped up Jackson's attorney, Thomas Mesereau Jr., who had trouble trying to impeach them about depositions given in the early 1990s. Both the woman and her son couldn't recall their words in those interviews.

At one point yesterday, the son, now 24, became exasperated as Mesereau presented him with his old depositions. "Dear Lord," he said. "You can show me the transcript, but I still won't remember what I said."

He later told jurors Jackson stuffed a $100 bill down his shorts after fondling him on two occasions when he was about 7 years old. When his mother took the stand, she said she was startled when her boy showed her the money back then.

"To me, it was a lot of money for a little kid," she said.

The mother said Jackson often had boys sleep in his bedroom at Neverland. She twice saw the boy she said showered with Jackson in his bed. Once, she saw the two in bed, bare from the waist up, under covers from the waist down, she said.

The woman said she has never discussed with her son his allegations that Jackson fondled him. Charges were never brought against the entertainer, who settled with the woman and the boy reportedly for $2 million. But the mother said she was uncomfortable with the attention Jackson gave her son, which included snuggling with him on a sleeping bag and holding the boy on his lap.

Working as Jackson's maid had its perks, the woman testified under cross examination. The star gave her hundreds of dollars, two jackets from his concert tours and a large oak coffee table from his attic. She added, however, that Bubbles the chimpanzee bit her twice.

Sicko

Murphy3 · 04-06-2005, 10:16 AM

I'll truly be saddened when this sick bastard gets away with this....

mavsman55 · 04-06-2005, 02:13 PM

Down with the scum.

This guy is gonna be everybody's b**** in jail.

kg_veteran · 04-06-2005, 03:03 PM

Bubbles the chimpanzee.

Drbio · 04-07-2005, 09:32 AM

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Originally posted by: Murphy3
I'll truly be saddened when this sick bastard gets away with this....

Seriously.

Caliente · 06-13-2005, 03:56 PM

The jury has reached a verdict...............to be announced later within the hour.

Drbio · 06-13-2005, 04:16 PM

3:45 Texas time announcement. It was just delayed for a 15 minutes to allow the sick bastard enough time to get to the courthouse.

Caliente · 06-13-2005, 04:52 PM

Michael Jackson supporters form a human chain Monday as a caravan carrying Jackson to court leaves the singer's Neverland ranch.

sike · 06-13-2005, 04:54 PM

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Originally posted by: Caliente

Michael Jackson supporters form a human chain Monday as a caravan carrying Jackson to court leaves the singer's Neverland ranch.

making $6.50 an hour...

sike · 06-13-2005, 05:17 PM

not guilty....

Drbio · 06-13-2005, 05:27 PM

*sigh*

Criminal Justice indeed.

capitalcity · 06-13-2005, 05:47 PM

excuse me, I have to go dance in the streets now.

Damn that MJ is one smooth criminal.

LRB · 06-13-2005, 05:48 PM

I guess if you're famous and have enough money, you can get away with just about anything.

Smiles · 06-13-2005, 05:57 PM

It's not that MJ is smooth - the system and society's perceptions are flawed. Many sezual offenders are acquitted for similar actions all over the country. This acquital is particularly damaging because it sends a message to offenders that their actions are "okay", and to victims that they should just keep their mouths shut.

capitalcity · 06-13-2005, 06:18 PM

edit - Damn that MJ is one splotchy criminal.

Smiles · 06-13-2005, 07:14 PM

Thanks for humoring me. I just couldn't stand for him to receive the remotest of compliments.

I was going to use a smiley, but considering the topic, I simply can't.

He's splotchy - and then some.

MavKikiNYC · 06-13-2005, 08:41 PM

Once again, Jackson gets off. <ahem>

Ninkobei · 06-14-2005, 12:10 AM

So this is the message america is sending to other countires:

It's ok to murder your wife and sleep with little boys, but if you go around the system to make a little extra money you will be getting hard time.

sike · 06-14-2005, 12:23 AM

I'm more concerned with the message we have been sending to God...greed and curruption are always sign of an Empire about to crumble....

mary · 06-14-2005, 03:55 AM

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Originally posted by: Caliente

Michael Jackson supporters form a human chain Monday as a caravan carrying Jackson to court leaves the singer's Neverland ranch.

You know, I can live with the fact the Jackson's attorneys were able to create reasonable doubt in the minds of the jury....but what is the hell wrong with these people forming a "chain of support" and dancing and cheering in the streets?

What IN THE HELL was there to cheer about???

mavsman55 · 06-14-2005, 12:24 PM

That sick freak will get what's coming to him someday.

dalmations202 · 06-14-2005, 01:16 PM

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I'm more concerned with the message we have been sending to God...greed and curruption are always sign of an Empire about to crumble....

Ouch.....but oh so true....................doesn't say much for us as a nation does it.

LRB · 06-14-2005, 01:17 PM

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Originally posted by: mary

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Originally posted by: Caliente

Michael Jackson supporters form a human chain Monday as a caravan carrying Jackson to court leaves the singer's Neverland ranch.

You know, I can live with the fact the Jackson's attorneys were able to create reasonable doubt in the minds of the jury....but what is the hell wrong with these people forming a "chain of support" and dancing and cheering in the streets?

What IN THE HELL was there to cheer about???

Saddly it seems as if they are cheering the legalizing of molesting of little boys by the rich and famous. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]

Big Boy Laroux · 06-14-2005, 02:54 PM

YAY! I knew he didn't do it!

Just like OJ!

i hope michael will soon scour the golf courses looking for "the real child molestor"

Drbio · 06-14-2005, 03:32 PM

"One nation, no longer under God....."

Caliente · 06-14-2005, 03:56 PM

bo319 · 06-14-2005, 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by: Caliente

...and here we all thought he was trying to become Elizabeth Taylor...who knew he was Mommie Dearest?

u2sarajevo · 06-14-2005, 04:49 PM

My "faith" in our Justice system was reinforced.

Have money, will walk.

Pathetic.

I did think the Prosecution did a really poor job. It seemed like they didn't do any research of the witnesses they called outside of the boy, his Brother and possibly his Mother. But everyone else they called seemed to say exactly the opposite of what they were expecting.

KG, wouldn't you be chomping at the bit to serve as the Prosecutor in a case like that?

I know all it takes is the creation of reasonable doubt, but man..... I think it stands to reason that there is no doubt.

kg_veteran · 06-14-2005, 05:28 PM

It seems like they must have done a poor job, but then again, I haven't followed the trial closely enough to know what evidence they had to put on. Well, except for the fact that Jackson admitted serving the child alcohol but still wasn't found guilty on that count.

Personally, I think it was a combination of: 1) a bad prosecutorial job, 2) an attack on the victim and his family by the defense, and 3) stupid jurors.

Caliente · 06-23-2005, 02:27 PM

Only on Ebay......................

MJ toast

Big Boy Laroux · 06-23-2005, 08:42 PM

to steal a joke from triumph the insult comic dog...

you all have followed the trial... so, tell me, on a scale of 1 to 10...

how old is michael's boyfriend?

Nash13 · 06-24-2005, 09:16 PM

It was weird i was watching one of those Morning talk shows, and they had the jurors up there. And one of them said, "Do i think Michael Jackson is guilty of something? Yes. But the prosecution didn't present a good enough case."

How can somebody look at his past and present and say he was not guilty?