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Vegas shooting: Trump doesnt use it for (anti-gun) politics. Says its not the time for that now...

NY attack: Uses it hours later for (his) politics

Church shooting today: lets see...


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Great....what could be a solution....put security at church doors....rofl
http://video.foxnews.com/v/563620142...#sp=show-clips

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Looks like another "protection rifle"
https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/sta...09507675508737

I'm sure Fox News will get behind placing armed security at the front of mosques.
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Government Accountability Office to review whether EPA violated anti-propaganda law

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I think Trump is the worst thing that could have possibly happened to the U.S. this past election cycle. That being said it's pretty clear that both political parties are inundated with controversy and corruption. Obviously, the GOP doesn't compare to the Dems by any metric, but Clinton definitely hijacked the DNC long before her nomination.

I'm ready for a truly revolutionary candidate. I refuse to believe that long gone are men and women of principle like Bobby Kennedy. People who don't give a damn what is and isn't politically possible, but stick to their honest values and beliefs.
The problem is certain things are death sentences for candidates. If you say the military funding needs to be cut, or to eliminate private prisons used for profit, or that we need to raise taxes on the rich, or mention the words gun control, youve eliminated a lot of the voters unfortunately.(Fox News will pull a heading like "Insert candidate HATES MILITARY, JOBS WILL BE CUT".

And if Democrats dont win back any seats today from the election, it says that Trumpism bull shit works for republican candidates.

Republicans are constantly playing identity politics (dems do to an extent as well). The rep candidate in Virginia sent out mailers of a picture of Colin Kap kneeling and it said "are you tired of athletes kneeling during the anthem? Vote republican!" That will win a lot of votes because thats how stupid we've become.

Now Im rambling...
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Dems have to actually be good and address real issues. The centrism of soundbites combined with rampant corruption is hated by everyone. If they want to win, they have to appoint someone who is more than an empty suit run by special interests and polls.

Trump claimed he'd address corruption (newsflash, he's even worse) and that he'd shake up the status quo. Even though he's an insane, egotist with a borderline intellect and Nazi sympathies, people wanted something different.

Unfortunately, the democrats answered Trump by putting another white bread, sound-clip democrat who doesn't really stand for anything on the ticket and stifled any other challenge to their status quo. When people are offered two awful mannequins in suits, they choose the better of the two. When they are offered a mannequin in a suit and someone who claims to want real change and claims to have real values, then people will vote for the person who claims to have principles, even if he/she turns out to be a liar and a proto-nazi.

If democrats lose, it's because they haven't learned their lesson that they can't keep putting suits without principles on the ballot. They need to find someone who actually stands for something.

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Theyve definitely done themselves no favors by still fighting about the bernie/hillary thing. Its maddening. They continue to shoot themselves in the foot nationally.

They need to make their principles and policies clear and find good candidates that can rally the party.
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Theyve definitely done themselves no favors by still fighting about the bernie/hillary thing. Its maddening. They continue to shoot themselves in the foot nationally.

They need to make their principles and policies clear and find good candidates that can rally the party.
And lying about the corruption in the DNC too with the help of the mainstream media.

https://theintercept.com/2017/11/05/...hat-are-false/

Actual fake news
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And lying about the corruption in the DNC too with the help of the mainstream media.

https://theintercept.com/2017/11/05/...hat-are-false/

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Yep thats the kind of stuff I was referring to. They screw themselves. They have their problems and its never going to be all rainbows but my god they should be cleaning up the way the presidency is going.
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Trump wanted a culture war, looks like he got it... Too bad for him that the Democrats just won the shit out of the first battle.



@CharlotteAlter: A trans woman beat the guy who introduced the bathroom bill. A gun victim's boyfriend beat a delegate with an "A" grade from the NRA. A civil rights lawyer who sued the police department just became the top prosecutor in Philadelphia.

Something's happening here, folks.


@kylegriffin1: A N.J. Republican mocked the Women's March online.

32-year old Democrat Ashley Bennett was angered by the remark, challenged him in his re-election bid.

She won.


@amyharvard_: The real winner tonight is Danica Roem (D). She will be the first transgender lawmaker in Va.

But even better: She unseated Del. Bob Marshall (R) who ran on a transphobic campaign and sponsored Va. horrendous bathroom bill.

Beautiful.


@flippable_org: Elizabeth Guzman flipped District 31 blue! Congratulations to @guzman4delegate, who unseats an NRA-backed, 8-term GOP incumbent.


@obioannoukenob: fliers smeared Ravi Bhalla — a Sikh who wears a turban — as a terrorist, but he won the six-way election to be Hoboken’s next mayor anyway


@mic: A Democratic Socialist candidate for the Virginia House of Delegates, who was largely written off by the Democratic Party, has just won his election in the state’s 50th district


@SarahEMcBride: Another exciting victory: out trans man Tyler Titus won a seat on the Erie School Board, making home Pennsylvania's first out trans elected official! Congrats, Tyler!


@ShaunKin: 38 year old Melvin Carter just became the first Black Mayor of St. Paul, Minnesota.


@keyharris: Milledgeville, Georgia elected its FIRST African-American Woman Mayor, Mary Parham Copeland!


@kylegriffin1: Jenny Durkan was just elected Seattle’s first lesbian mayor. She is also Seattle’s first woman mayor since the 1920s.


@AishaThinker: Y’all. My mother @ViLyles made history tonight. She is the FIRST EVER Black woman elected Mayor of Charlotte, NC!


@caseytolan: Lisa Middleton, who just won a city council seat in Palm Springs, will be California's first openly transgender non-judicial elected official


@TheBeat985: #WilmotCollins (a former Liberian refugee) is the FIRST black mayor in Montana history! (City of Helena.) Congrats, Wilmot!


@latinovictoryus: Congratulations to @HalaAyala -- the first Latina to be elected to the VA House of Delegates! You just made history! #VAElection


@RaquelWillis_: So proud of movement auntie, Andrea Jenkins, who became the first openly trans woman of color elected to the city council of a major U.S. city. She’ll represent Ward 8 of Minneapolis! So much history being made tonight! #AJ4W8 #TransFolksCanWin #ElectionDay


@womensmarch: Kathy Tran came to the U.S. as a refugee from Vietnam when she was an infant. Tonight, she became the first Asian American woman elected to the Virginia House of Delegates. Congrats @kathykltran!


@JulieCareyNBC: As Virginia's Lt. Gov-elect Justin Fairfax becomes just the second African American elected statewide since Civil War @nbcwashington


@MohamedMOSalih: Huge news! I believe Mazahir Salih is the first Sudanese woman elected outside of Sudan to hold public office (Iowa City Council at-large)


@KEYTNC3Tracy: It appears #SantaBarbara voters #elected their first #Latina #Mayor. If #CathyMurillo’s lead stands she will be sworn in Tues. Jan. 9, 2018


@RedTRaccoon: Joyce Craig is the first woman elected Mayor for Manchester, New Hampshire (the largest city in the state).


@womensmarch: Sheila Oliver will be the first Black woman to serve as New Jersey's lieutenant governor!


@keithboykin: Voters today chose

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-A socialist in Virginia
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Lots of millennials actually got off their asses to go out and vote -- looks like Trump is their Vietnam.
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More layoffs planned at Carrier plant Trump promised to save

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...d-to-save.html

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The highly publicized deal, which protected about 730 manufacturing jobs, abruptly reversed the plan Carrier announced in February 2016 to move its factory to Mexico and eliminate nearly 1,400 jobs.

Although Carrier employees appeared elated in widely circulated photographs after Trump struck the deal with the company, the mood in Indianapolis has apparently soured as layoffs continue.

“Trump came in there to the factory last December and blew smoke up our asses,” Brenda Darlene Battle, a longtime Carrier employee, told The New Yorker. “He wasn’t gonna save those jobs.”
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Amazed by Virginia. Not just the governor but down the ballot. Trumpism isnt working for any republican candidate.

"chief homophobe" lost to a transgender LOL you know hes losing his shit behind closed doors.

The indian and asian candidates winning despite the racist mailers put out by their opponents.

A woman challeged a candidate that made a fb post about the women's march 'will they be home in time to make dinner'. She defeated him.

The irony is too dense this week. Hopefully this is just the beginning. 2018 is a ways to go.
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The Secret Correspondence Between Donald Trump Jr. and WikiLeaks

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ileaks/545738/
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The Secret Correspondence Between Donald Trump Jr. and WikiLeaks

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ileaks/545738/
It doesn't get derpier than this, folks...

Julian Assange accuses The Atlantic of editing messages with Trump Jr, then Trump Jr releases messages -- confirming The Atlantic article
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41980359

@JYSexton: This blows the lid off everything. Donald Trump, Jr. was in touch with Wikileaks, who trafficked the DNC emails stolen by Russia.
@JYSexton: Boy oh boy is this the dumbest international conspiracy to undermine democracy that ever worked.
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Being wealthy does not equate to intelligence. Wikileaks and Jr are going to bury each other.
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http://fortune.com/2017/11/15/trump-...rnia-shooting/

to be fair, it's hard to keep up with all the shootings and it's tough to remember to change the city/state when copying tweets for a new circumstance.

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every time you think Trumps Twitter game couldnt reach a new low...baaaam

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Former ethics director: Kellyanne Conway violated Hatch Act with Roy Moore comments

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How are the odds she had no idea what the Hatch Act is?

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Oh look, i was wrong again....another new low
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Wow, strap in for a really long Twitter thread (120 posts) that breaks down the Flynn situation in depth...

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/sta...02442996813824
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This chucklehead just admitted to obstructing justice (because he KNEW Flynn lied to the FBI, even though he denied that he knew before...)

@realDonaldTrump: I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI. He has pled guilty to those lies. It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!
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Pence allies worried he'll be called to answer questions from Mueller

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...s-from-mueller
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Amazing Video...amazing how much things people are willing to ignore...

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Fox Art Department with the Freudian slip?

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Thank you black people of Alabama
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Black people, white liberals, and moderate Republicans who read enough of the Bible to know that the answer to the question "what would Jesus do?" doesn't involve pedophilia.
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The guy is banned from a shopping mall. On what planet are people banned from malls?
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@RadioFreeTom: Let's play Alternate Universe.

It's 2017, and President Hillary Clinton is facing charges that Chelsea met with Russians who offered oppo on Trump. Chelsea didn't call the FBI; and Clinton nat sec adviser Jake Sullivan lied to the FBI about talking to the Russians. /1

@RadioFreeTom: Sullivan is perp-walked into Federal court and pleads to a felony. Chelsea spends hours with congressional investigators and then mugs for the cameras with a cake that looks like Trump. /2

@RadioFreeTom: Meanwhile, Hillary, who has shady ties through various organizations to tons of Russian money and mobsters, refuses to release her tax records and refers to "existential" threats to her presidency from the crooked FBI. /3

@RadioFreeTom: In fact, in her first year in office, Hillary asks the FBI director to "let it go" on Jake Sullivan, and when he doesn't, she fires him. Deputy AG Sally Yates appoints an SC, a lifelong Dem. Hillary mulls firing him. /4

@RadioFreeTom: Then, at least three other Clinton campaign officials end up indicted. All of them are tied in some way to a hostile foreign power. Robby Mook is confined to his home with an ankle monitor. /5

@RadioFreeTom: As the 2018 midterms approach, Hillary publicly mentions how the FCC should crack down on broadcasters who lie, and maybe yank FOX's license. She also notes her warm relations with Nicholas Maduro and calls him to say hi. /6

@RadioFreeTom: I'm sure... totally sure... that stalwarts of the GOP would say: Look, this is a nothingburger, you can't define "collusion," it's just "the coffee boy," and on and on. /7

@RadioFreeTom: Let's cut the nonsense. The GOP would be in full impeachment mode, even without the completion of the special counsel investigation. This is not a partisan point; it's a common-sense point.

I don't mind having arguments, but I'd prefer to keep them here on Planet Earth. /8x
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@Trollin_Trump: Here's a few of @realDonaldTrump actual first year presidential records:

1) Most days vacationing
2) Most games of golf played
3) Least amount of bills signed
4) Lowest approval ratings
5) Most provable lies
6) Most cabinet firings/registration
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The problem is that the new era of don't believe anything you hear because you don't agree with it is not only dangerous, but it could be catastrophic. It does go both ways, but Trump supporters are especially just living in la la land with reality. If you interview these people, then you'd be shocked to find out that they honestly think he is the best president since George Washington. It's very hard to know where to go or what to do with those opinions.

The issues, from the Trump supporters I know, really stem from their hatred of Hillary and Obama. It's almost all misguided, but they would rather vote for shit in a can before voting for Hillary. And the Uber PC social media movement isn't helping the liberal cause...at all at least from their perspective.

So the reality is that the Liberals have to somehow come up with a 2020 presidential candidate that is somehow better than even Obama was in 2008. This can't just be a "put anyone like John Kerry in and we can win" type of thing. Trump supporters are a very big, and very dangerous base that too many still don't take seriously.
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