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[EricaLubarsky]

I want Hardy to succeed but he is more a SG than a PG. I won?t say he can never be that guy but this season he isn?t.

We had two problems:
1) defensive presence when Lively isn?t playing. Kleber helped. Gafford should be the end of that
2) what we do when we don?t have two ball handlers. Our biggest losses in +/- all happen during periods where Luka or Kyrie are resting. We?re dominant for the first 6-7 minutes and okay the last 4-6 minutes when we have both Kyrie and Luka out there but we give up huge runs when we only have one ball handler out there. Exum is perfect but may never be healthy again. Hardy can?t help that. THJ can?t help that. We still desperately need a third ball handler.

Not to be a downer but Spence would have really helped. Maybe by getting consistent defense and frontcourt scoring we won?t miss him as much as I think.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

I want Hardy to succeed but he is more a SG than a PG. I won?t say he can never be that guy but this season he isn?t.

We had two problems:
1) defensive presence when Lively isn?t playing. Kleber helped. Gafford should be the end of that
2) what we do when we don?t have two ball handlers. Our biggest losses in +/- all happen during periods where Luka or Kyrie are resting. We?re dominant for the first 6-7 minutes and okay the last 4-6 minutes when we have both Kyrie and Luka out there but we give up huge runs when we only have one ball handler out there. Exum is perfect but may never be healthy again. Hardy can?t help that. THJ can?t help that. We still desperately need a third ball handler.

Not to be a downer but Spence would have really helped. Maybe by getting consistent defense and frontcourt scoring we won?t miss him as much as I think.

Jaden produces fine for a back up to Luka. He can handle the ball but we need him to take the next step defensively. For my taste, Dinwiddie doesnt change things enough to stifle Hardy minutes and growth. He needs more experience in important moments.
He had back to back 7 assist games but he needs to be more consistent with creating looks for others and finding guys. That said, who tf are the guys he was trying to pass to? Grant, Maxi, Dp, Djj. Not exaclty guys who are going to cinsistently make shots

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

Jaden produces fine for a back up to Luka. He can handle the ball but we need him to take the next step defensively. For my taste, Dinwiddie doesnt change things enough to stifle Hardy minutes and growth. He needs more experience in important moments.
He had back to back 7 assist games but he needs to be more consistent with creating looks for others and finding guys. That said, who tf are the guys he was trying to pass to? Grant, Maxi, Dp, Djj. Not exaclty guys who are going to cinsistently make shots

He?s fine as an SG
Our system needs two PGs and Hardy is not a natural facilitator like Exum, Kyrie, and Dinwiddie

A couple of good assist games are hope for the future which is why I didn?t want to completely rule him out forever but he?s not that guy this year.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

He?s fine as an SG
Our system needs two PGs and Hardy is not a natural facilitator like Exum, Kyrie, and Dinwiddie

A couple of good assist games are hope for the future which is why I didn?t want to completely rule him out forever but he?s not that guy this year.

Fair enough, but they way we stagger Luka and Kai, Jaden isnt relied upon fully to run the offense. He can continue to be the hybrid especially when Kai is on the floor.

[LukaMagic]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

I want Hardy to succeed but he is more a SG than a PG. I won?t say he can never be that guy but this season he isn?t.

We had two problems:
*1) defensive presence when Lively isn?t playing. Kleber helped. Gafford should be the end of that*
2) what we do when we don?t have two ball handlers. Our biggest losses in +/- all happen during periods where Luka or Kyrie are resting. We?re dominant for the first 6-7 minutes and okay the last 4-6 minutes when we have both Kyrie and Luka out there but we give up huge runs when we only have one ball handler out there. Exum is perfect but may never be healthy again. Hardy can?t help that. THJ can?t help that. We still desperately need a third ball handler.

Not to be a downer but Spence would have really helped. Maybe by getting consistent defense and frontcourt scoring we won?t miss him as much as I think.

** Great point. Jason Kidd agrees with you on that. But he still plays Gafford in situations that are not very defensively challenging in terms of moving out of the paint. Gafford is a paint guy. He gets totally lost defensively outside of the paint.

[LukaMagic]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

I want Hardy to succeed but he is more a SG than a PG. I won?t say he can never be that guy but this season he isn?t.

We had two problems:
1) defensive presence when Lively isn?t playing. Kleber helped. Gafford should be the end of that
*2) what we do when we don?t have two ball handlers. Our biggest losses in +/- all happen during periods where Luka or Kyrie are resting. We?re dominant for the first 6-7 minutes and okay the last 4-6 minutes when we have both Kyrie and Luka out there but we give up huge runs when we only have one ball handler out there. Exum is perfect but may never be healthy again. Hardy can?t help that. THJ can?t help that. We still desperately need a third ball handler.*

Not to be a downer but Spence would have really helped. Maybe by getting consistent defense and frontcourt scoring we won?t miss him as much as I think.

** And this is also a very, very good point. When it comes to ball handling you have Luka (first), Kyrie (second), Exum (third), and PJ (fourth) (though he is not used to doing that), then Green (but Green rushes a lot and makes poor decisions), and then nobody else.

THJ should be PREVENTED from handling the ball. He is just an executioner. He can shoot or drive the ball when given to him. But he is horrendous at passing. A ball-handler must be able to assess whether it is good/better to shoot, or to keep hold of the ball, or to pass. THJ has zero such skills. Green is better but HE RUSHES. Rushes in and then he can't stop. Luka is great at that, of course. Kyrie has such natural abilities/affinities. And Exum is great at that too but at a lower skill level.