Mavs trade deadline and draft thread

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Definitely won't miss Seth Curry. Been unplayable for a month now.

[EricaLubarsky]

40 minutes to the end of trades and we know what Wizards got (middle of three 2024 FRps OKc owns) but not what we have OKC

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

40 minutes to the end of trades and we know what Wizards got (middle of three 2024 FRps OKc owns) but not what we have OKC

I'm a bit afraid of what we had to give up. Teams don't give up firsts willy nilly.

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

I'm a bit afraid of what we had to give up. Teams don't give up firsts willy nilly.

I am too, but overall I am very happy with this trade deadline. Losing a FRP does suck, but we upgraded not one but two spots on the roster. We desperately needed frontcourt depth. It's been our Achilles' heel all season. Getting a quality backup 5 is a real game changer, so we're not completely f***ed whenever Lively is not on the floor. I still would like some more size at the 4, but other than that, I think we have a pretty solid roster all around now.

Man, it's a really nice feeling to feel like the Mavs are a well-run organization. I don't remember the last time I felt that way.

[SMC0007]

Luka
Kyrie
Green
PJ
Lively
Gafford

Looks so much better. Lets see how many ways Kidd can fvck this up.

[EricaLubarsky]

Mavs tonight:
No Lively
No Exum
No Williams
No Holmes
No Curry
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No Washington
No Gafford

Knicks Tonight:
No Ononuby
No Brunson (?)
No Randle
No Robinson
No Quentin Grimes
No Malachi Flynn
No Evan Fournier
No Ryan Arcidiacono
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No Burks
No Bogdanovic

TDL makes for some interesting games.

[EricaLubarsky]

Doug Mickey-D to the Pacers!

Rick Loves him

[EricaLubarsky]

14 minutes. Still don't know the OKC details

[DevinHarriswillstart]

I'm not finding anything on what we had to give up. Did OKC really have too many picks that they just gave us one for free? I have nothing substantial on that front, but, if true, then Nico catapults to the top of GMs.

[EricaLubarsky]

Lopez to Kings

What are the Bucks doing?

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Yeah, and if you want to know where Dinwiddie's value is...

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/st...81671217643746

[EricaLubarsky]

And Kings waiving Lopez?

What

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

And Kings waiving Lopez?

What

Robin Lopez...

[purplefrog]

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The Mavs are swapping their 2028 1st with OKC?s 2028 1st to acquire the 2024 1st that will be rerouted to Washington

That clears things up... LOL

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by purplefrog

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The Mavs are swapping their 2028 1st with OKC?s 2028 1st to acquire the 2024 1st that will be rerouted to Washington

That clears things up... LOL

Yeah, so we've traded or swapped 27, 28, 29, 30.

Better hope this team works out...

[purplefrog]

Just read where Raptors are going to waive Dinwiddie...if true would be a good pick up for the Mavs after trading Seth.

[BPo001]

Originally Posted by purplefrog

Just read where Raptors are going to waive Dinwiddie...if true would be a good pick up for the Mavs after trading Seth.

I?m sure he will end up on the Lakers or another contender.

[EricaLubarsky]

We swapped 2028 with OKC

Not bad

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Gafford costing a first doesn't surpise me. Centers are in high demand. Gotta pay the current rate I'm afraid.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Mavs to pursue Dinwiddie per Stein.

[BPo001]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Mavs to pursue Dinwiddie per Stein.

Shams reporting it too. His numbers are down this season, but maybe he was being asked to do too much? I wouldn?t hate it if he came back.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by BPo001

Shams reporting it too. His numbers are down this season, but maybe he was being asked to do too much? I wouldn?t hate it if he came back.

I doubt they do it if Exum was healthy, but I'm wondering if he is even coming back this season.

[Melonhead]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

I doubt they do it if Exum was healthy, but I'm wondering if he is even coming back this season.

Everythings been so quiet with him, I do wonder if he comes back at all this season. Spence is good insurance off the bench.

[Dallas41]

Originally Posted by BPo001

Shams reporting it too. His numbers are down this season, but maybe he was being asked to do too much? I wouldn?t hate it if he came back.

Spence would be awesome as your 3rd PG

He already knows the system and I trust him over Hardy

Exum is imo the mavs best wing defender so he will still be crucial in playoff matchups

He's big enough to defend 1-3

[EricaLubarsky]

If Mavs really trade Holmes, Williams, and the husk of Curry for Gafford, Washington, and Dinwiddie, does Nico deserve GM of the year?

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

If Mavs really trade Holmes, Williams, and the husk of Curry for Gafford, Washington, and Dinwiddie, does Nico deserve GM of the year?

The draft capital we gave up is nothing to sneeze at. Worth it in my opinion, but it looks a lot less like an outright swindle when you factor in the draft picks and swaps.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

The draft capital we gave up is nothing to sneeze at. Worth it in my opinion, but it looks a lot less like an outright swindle when you factor in the draft picks and swaps.

Really only lost one FRP and got two seconds

Pick swap could be big if we draft 1 and OKC drafts 30 and those picks swap. Could also be a 21st pick for a 22nd which would cost us almost nothing.

Honestly I?ve been on the fence on whether we should blow it up and rebuild or go all in. With Luka, Kyrie, and some young guys with future like Lively and Green they decided to go all in. The worst scenario would have been to stand pat with mediocre trade assets while Luka and Kyrie countdown their contracts and prepare to leave.

Will it be enough to compete? I think it guarantees a playoff spot if we stay healthy and raises our ceiling by a lot. If we win a few playoff series maybe that?s enough. If things go south, Mavs will be terrible for 5-10 years without those picks, but we wouldn?t have been much better off with a mediocre squad and Kyrie/Luka getting less and less happy.

[dirt_dobber]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Really only lost one FRP and got two seconds

Pick swap could be big if we draft 1 and OKC drafts 30 and those picks swap. Could also be a 21st pick for a 22nd which would cost us almost nothing.

Honestly I?ve been on the fence on whether we should blow it up and rebuild or go all in. With Luka, Kyrie, and some young guys with future like Lively and Green they decided to go all in. The worst scenario would have been to stand pat with mediocre trade assets while Luka and Kyrie countdown their contracts and prepare to leave.

Will it be enough to compete? I think it guarantees a playoff spot if we stay healthy and raises our ceiling by a lot. If we win a few playoff series maybe that?s enough. If things go south, Mavs will be terrible for 5-10 years without those picks, but we wouldn?t have been much better off with a mediocre squad and Kyrie/Luka getting less and less happy.

Totally agree - our guy Nico did good.

[Melonhead]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Really only lost one FRP and got two seconds

Pick swap could be big if we draft 1 and OKC drafts 30 and those picks swap. Could also be a 21st pick for a 22nd which would cost us almost nothing.

Honestly I?ve been on the fence on whether we should blow it up and rebuild or go all in. With Luka, Kyrie, and some young guys with future like Lively and Green they decided to go all in. The worst scenario would have been to stand pat with mediocre trade assets while Luka and Kyrie countdown their contracts and prepare to leave.

Will it be enough to compete? I think it guarantees a playoff spot if we stay healthy and raises our ceiling by a lot. If we win a few playoff series maybe that?s enough. If things go south, Mavs will be terrible for 5-10 years without those picks, but we wouldn?t have been much better off with a mediocre squad and Kyrie/Luka getting less and less happy.

100% agreed on all. I think this puts them in position for the 5/6 seed, where if we stayed on the treadmill of mediocrity it was looking more like 8-10.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

The draft capital we gave up is nothing to sneeze at. Worth it in my opinion, but it looks a lot less like an outright swindle when you factor in the draft picks and swaps.

We dont need to swindle teams. Obviously not saying you, but you read it everywhere "fleeced, roobed" etc. We did what we needed to do and improved significantly on paper...and we didnt fk ourselves while doing it. I dont think any of us thought we woukd get this much out of TDL. Many had resigned to waiting until offseason for any moves.

We still have to prove it on the court, but we are MUCH closer to contending than we were when we woke up this morning.

[saclare]

Wouldn't mind adding Dinwiddie but would prefer they buyout Doe Doe.

Underrated aspect of the trade acquisitions...their contracts. Super favorable and affordable, fitting in nicely for roster construction and flexibility into this offseason. Washington's declining makes him more valuable IMO

2023/24 -- 2024/25 -- 2025/26

Gafford = $12.4MM -- $13.4MM -- 14.4MM

Washington = $16.8MM -- $15.5MM -- $14.1MM

[DevinHarriswillstart]

I mean, they addressed our needs which is all you can ask for. The backup center thing came from out of the blue and was sorely needed.

But PJ Washington has a lot of question marks. Was he mediocre because of his team or in general? Mavs need him to be good and not go 2-11.

[BPo001]

Michael Scotto: The Brooklyn Nets are waiving Thaddeus Young, league sources told @hoopshype. ? via Twitter MikeAScotto

[MFFL]

Super pleased with our front office today.

Moved a PF that wasn't working for one that MIGHT work. Plus we got a backup center who WILL work.

We did give up a first rounder but we got one back with a pick swap that we also used. Unloaded the corpse of Holmes basically for free (we got O-Max to take on Holmes and we moved him without having to attach a pick). And we got 2 second round picks?

Excellent!

[Dallas41]

Originally Posted by BPo001

Michael Scotto: The Brooklyn Nets are waiving Thaddeus Young, league sources told @hoopshype. ? via Twitter MikeAScotto

The Morris twin might be a sneaky pickup because as of r8ght now the mavs still don't matchup size wise vs bigger wings like Kawhi, Durant, George, LeBron and Porter.

Morris would probably be a better fit vs those type of wings to physically matchup as opposed to Green, Exum and DJJ.

It'll be interesting to see if the mavs value his size and defensive flexibility or Dinwiddie's ball handling and shot creation

[Melonhead]

Is there any scenario of overlapping some of their minutes where Gafford gets run at PF with Live at Center?

I know he?s not a spread the floor guy so it?s slim just imagining the idea of being the bigger team on the court for once lol

[SMC0007]

Lols

https://twitter.com/TheDunkCentral/s...tqIDjZfzg&s=19


The Dallas Mavericks were 'determined' to part ways with Grant Williams after he 'rubbed a lot of people the wrong way,' per @espn_macmahon

Notably, he also switched his basketball sneakers from Luka's to Tatum's signature shoes

(Via es.pn/493XgsK)

[BPo001]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

Lols

https://twitter.com/TheDunkCentral/s...tqIDjZfzg&s=19


The Dallas Mavericks were 'determined' to part ways with Grant Williams after he 'rubbed a lot of people the wrong way,' per @espn_macmahon

Notably, he also switched his basketball sneakers from Luka's to Tatum's signature shoes

(Via es.pn/493XgsK)

Never would have guessed GW was disliked so much. I surely won?t miss him.

[Dallas41]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

Lols

https://twitter.com/TheDunkCentral/s...tqIDjZfzg&s=19


The Dallas Mavericks were 'determined' to part ways with Grant Williams after he 'rubbed a lot of people the wrong way,' per @espn_macmahon

Notably, he also switched his basketball sneakers from Luka's to Tatum's signature shoes

(Via es.pn/493XgsK)

Let's be real here

He was never worth that type of contract and they realized early it was a fuck up to pay him.

This wasn't about his locker room stuff it was about the mavs getting off that contract.

If he was producing they would have never said shit about rubbing people the wrong way 😂

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by Dallas41

Let's be real here

He was never worth that type of contract and they realized early it was a fuck up to pay him.

This wasn't about his locker room stuff it was about the mavs getting off that contract.

If he was producing they would have never said shit about rubbing people the wrong way 😂

Probably. Though I think if Luka doesnt like you, youre eventually gonna get moved. He doesnt seem to just have issues with people for no reason. If you are a dickhead or not there to win or die trying, hes not going to be a fan. You take off the LD shoes and put on Tayum shoes, thats not a huge deal...it just looks like cuck behavior. But if you put on Tatum shoes after some kind of issue with Luka, thats not good. No one on the team is gonna jive with that. Its petty to even be talking about a shoe but sometimes its deeper depending on the situation.