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EricaLubarsky · 02-25-2021, 09:09 AM

https://streamable.com/56kik1

This is killing the NBA. Defender in good position. Not making contact or reaching in. No defending it. They call for a ref review and the call stands. The NBA has a problem.

turin · 02-25-2021, 11:58 AM

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https://streamable.com/56kik1

This is killing the NBA. Defender in good position. Not making contact or reaching in. No defending it. They call for a ref review and the call stands. The NBA has a problem.

That should be an obvious offensive foul imo. Permitting offensive players to jump into defenders like that is horrible. SMH. I can't believe I've reached the point where the NBA is becoming tiresome for me to watch. :-(

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Scoobay · 02-25-2021, 01:50 PM

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That should be an obvious offensive foul imo. Permitting offensive players to jump into defenders like that is horrible. SMH. I can't believe I've reached the point where the NBA is becoming tiresome for me to watch. :-(

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yup that's garbage
defender has to have a place for their face to be geez...

no call or offensive foul
Brunson got called for an offensive foul for something that was much less than that the other night.

for that matter Brunson got called for a defensive foul on Kemba for running behind him on a 3pt attempt.

There's zero consistency and it's a terrible part of the game.

BPo001 · 02-25-2021, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

https://streamable.com/56kik1

This is killing the NBA. Defender in good position. Not making contact or reaching in. No defending it. They call for a ref review and the call stands. The NBA has a problem.

It’s one thing to call the foul, but to review it and say the call stands? That’s terrible. It’s like the refs don’t want to admit to making a bad call.

EricaLubarsky · 02-28-2021, 11:32 PM

https://streamable.com/zp9dzp

And another

Does anyone honestly like this type of basketball?

Thespiralgoeson · 03-02-2021, 06:24 PM

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https://streamable.com/zp9dzp

And another

Does anyone honestly like this type of basketball?

I really think it's inevitable that the league will make some rule changes to address this. It's probably the single biggest problem the league faces today, as far as actual on-court product goes. Obviously they won't go too far back in the other direction. They still want to favor the offense and have high scoring, fast paced games. But this is just too much.

EricaLubarsky · 03-01-2021, 11:24 PM

Hawks coach fired. Ran practice. Had players find out via Twitter

BPo001 · 03-02-2021, 09:12 PM

Shams Charania: NBA All-Star 3-point contestants: Stephen Curry, Donovan Mitchell, Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown, Devin Booker, Zach LaVine –

NBA announces that Julius Randle is in the Skills Competition. He’s facing Luka Doncic, Nikola Vucevic, Domantas Sabonis, Robert Covington and Chris Paul

Chris Haynes: Slam Dunk Contest Participants: Anfernee Simons, Cassius Stanley and Obi Toppin.

Marc Stein: The NBA just announced Dominique Wilkins, Spud Webb, Jason Richardson, Dee Brown and Josh Smith as Sunday’s Dunk Contest judges – via Twitter TheSteinLine

BPo001 · 03-03-2021, 09:10 PM

Lol

Marc Stein: As part of the NBA’s attempts to create a two-day Atlanta bubble, All-Star regulations call for all participants, guests and those granted access to the official league hotel to be checked in by 7 PM Saturday and to stay at the hotel until Sunday’s game, sources tell @NYTSports. – via Twitter TheSteinLine

EricaLubarsky · 03-04-2021, 11:37 PM

ASB is going to wreck the second half of the season

EricaLubarsky · 03-10-2021, 11:54 PM

BPo001 · 03-11-2021, 03:56 PM

StatMuse: Lonzo Ball has made more threes this season than: Trae Young , Luka Doncic, Jayson Tatum, Bradley Beal, Devin Booker, LeBron James. He also has a higher 3P% than all of the above players. pic.twitter.com/F8Olg4gCVl – via Twitter statmuse

Thought this was interesting for a guy not known for his shooting.

sefant77 · 03-11-2021, 05:39 PM

Kind of pointless to compare a guy who just takes settled and wide open 3s with all those go to guy scorer.

Give them the same shots Lonzo took and im 100% sure they all make more than Lonzo. Give Luka just the Seth Curry or Maxi Kleber type 3s and im pretty sure he shoots 40% or more from downtown...

BPo001 · 03-11-2021, 06:03 PM

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Kind of pointless to compare a guy who just takes settled and wide open 3s with all those go to guy scorer.

Give them the same shots Lonzo took and im 100% sure they all make more than Lonzo. Give Luka just the Seth Curry or Maxi Kleber type 3s and im pretty sure he shoots 40% or more from downtown...

Good point. I’m a little surprised that he’s made more than all of them though.

EricaLubarsky · 03-17-2021, 07:15 PM

Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
Sources: Houston is trading PJ Tucker, Rodions Kurucs and Bucks’ 2022 first-round pick back to Milwaukee for DJ Augustin, DJ Wilson and 2023 unprotected first-round pick. Houston also gets right to swap its 2021 second-round pick for Milwaukee's FRP pick unless it falls 1-9.

Stylistic · 03-22-2021, 12:02 PM

I find Houston’s 20 game losing streak amazing. Feel for Silas.

https://twitter.com/adamspolane/stat...278396427?s=21

EricaLubarsky · 03-25-2021, 08:42 AM

Delon is already leaving Detroit

Traded to Sacramento for Joseph and a couple of second rounders

Now that he’s in Sac, I kinda feel sorry for him

BPo001 · 03-25-2021, 09:48 AM

Adrian Wojnarowski: Denver is acquiring center Cleveland center JaVale McGee for Isaiah Hartenstein and two future protected second-round picks, sources tell ESPN. – via Twitter wojespn

BPo001 · 03-25-2021, 10:22 AM

According to both ESPN and Stadium, the Magic are trading All-Star forward Nikola Vucevic to the Chicago Bulls for Wendell Carter Jr., Otto Porter and two first-round picks. The Bulls are attempting to make the playoffs this season while the Magic have been looking to trade players like Vucevic and Aaron Gordon after the franchise has struggled to be competitive.

Dtownsfinest · 03-25-2021, 10:28 AM

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According to both ESPN and Stadium, the Magic are trading All-Star forward Nikola Vucevic to the Chicago Bulls for Wendell Carter Jr., Otto Porter and two first-round picks. The Bulls are attempting to make the playoffs this season while the Magic have been looking to trade players like Vucevic and Aaron Gordon after the franchise has struggled to be competitive.

Damn. That's a nice deal for both teams. Chicago got a big man without having to give up their core guys.

saclare · 03-25-2021, 10:42 AM

Orlando better get some better pieces for Gordon. Trading Vuc for a limited prospect and an expiring is tough to swallow. Not sure the pieces they'll get with the 1st rounders will justify it.

I guess we can take Zach Lavine off the table until at least the winter/next season.

Thespiralgoeson · 03-25-2021, 12:13 PM

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Orlando better get some better pieces for Gordon. Trading Vuc for a limited prospect and an expiring is tough to swallow. Not sure the pieces they'll get with the 1st rounders will justify it.

I guess we can take Zach Lavine off the table until at least the winter/next season.

LaVine looks virtually untouchable. We need to file him in the same pie-in-the-sky category as Beal.

saclare · 03-25-2021, 02:47 PM

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LaVine looks virtually untouchable. We need to file him in the same pie-in-the-sky category as Beal.

Ehhh I bet they would part for the right deal. But of course, we would be outbid fairly easily.

I'd say Beal is much more likely to be moved once they're tired of the Westbrook combo

saclare · 03-25-2021, 10:43 AM

Also, Boston getting Evan Fournier for 2 second rounders...nice little coup for Boston. Though he doesn't shore up their defensive issues...

Thespiralgoeson · 03-25-2021, 04:25 PM

The real winners today seem to be the Nuggets, Blazers, and Bulls. They both got considerably better. I guess you could say Celtics too but I don't think Fournier really changes their standing in the East much.

Clippers getting Rondo feels very "meh." Seems more like a chemistry/lockerroom thing. (Imagine saying that about Rondo in 2015.)

EricaLubarsky · 03-25-2021, 08:43 PM

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The real winners today seem to be the Nuggets, Blazers, and Bulls. They both got considerably better. I guess you could say Celtics too but I don't think Fournier really changes their standing in the East much.

Clippers getting Rondo feels very "meh." Seems more like a chemistry/lockerroom thing. (Imagine saying that about Rondo in 2015.)

Rondo makes them better defensively. Clippers defense is already good, though. I worry how they will score in the playoffs. PG just chokes on his own hype when the playoffs start.

Nuggets are maybe better. They already have Porter playing the same position. Is Porter the 6th man and Gordon just his reserve? Do they play together? Defensively that would not be good. We'll have to see if they are much better .

Portland - They are about to be real good and not just because of the Powell trade. If Powell keeps shooting like that, no one is going to be able to defend them. Their defense is still their Achilles, but they are also getting Nurkic back this week. That's two huge additions for them.

Bulls are better, but not playoff material.

Scoobay · 03-26-2021, 10:16 AM

TJ Mcconnell steal compilation
This is crazy! such as simple thing as inbounding the ball but geez...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB_Nx0VpDus

EricaLubarsky · 03-27-2021, 05:33 PM

LaMarcus to Nets

This is getting ridiculous

Harden, Durant, Irving, Griffin, and now Aldridge

BPo001 · 03-27-2021, 06:00 PM

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LaMarcus to Nets

This is getting ridiculous

Harden, Durant, Irving, Griffin, and now Aldridge

If you include Deandre Jordan they have 41 combined All Star appearances and 31 all NBA selections. As much as I hate Lebron I think I’d rather see him win another over this trash team. I wonder were Drummond ends up.

Scoobay · 03-27-2021, 06:35 PM

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If you include Deandre Jordan they have 41 combined All Star appearances and 31 all NBA selections. As much as I hate Lebron I think I’d rather see him win another over this trash team. I wonder were Drummond ends up.

yeah it's like the legion of doom cohort of bad guys geez...
stupid - hope they all trip over themselves

sefant77 · 03-27-2021, 10:31 PM

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LaMarcus to Nets

This is getting ridiculous

Harden, Durant, Irving, Griffin, and now Aldridge

Last thing the Nets need is more offense. They need defense for the playoffs. LMA at this point just tanks the defense, same with Blake. Both cant move lateral anymore

BPo001 · 03-27-2021, 06:03 PM

As the Oklahoma City Thunder turn to younger players in the nightly rotation, five-time All-Star center Al Horford will no longer will be active for games this season, sources told ESPN. Horford, 34, plans to remain with his Oklahoma City teammates and train at the team’s facility, but he won’t play in the final 28 games for the Thunder, sources said. – via Adrian Wojnarowski @ ESPN

EricaLubarsky · 03-27-2021, 07:19 PM

Lakers getting Drummond for free

Thespiralgoeson · 03-30-2021, 12:33 AM

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Lakers getting Drummond for free

Yeah it's ridiculous. The funny thing is though, I'm not really sure he helps them much. I mean, sure he helps them while Lebron and AD are out, but once they're back, I feel like all he does is clog up the offense. Their best lineups are always with AD at center.

turin · 04-05-2021, 09:36 PM

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Yeah it's ridiculous. The funny thing is though, I'm not really sure he helps them much. I mean, sure he helps them while Lebron and AD are out, but once they're back, I feel like all he does is clog up the offense. Their best lineups are always with AD at center.

It does get tiresome seeing teams stack up talent like this. Yeah, it may not be the best fit at times, but talent is usually what wins. Having said that, my money is still on Denver. I'm rooting for them to win it all. I'd love to see a solid team that plays team basketball anchored by a big just tear through everybody and put a stake through the heart of the midget 3-ball, analytics fanbois. The Lakers got the ball rolling with their big lineups last year winning a title. Denver winning would likely solidify a transitional wave of copycats in the NBA moving more towards size and defense. It's long overdue imo. I just wish the Mavericks would get ahead of the trend and lead the way instead of being followers.

Melonhead · 04-06-2021, 09:26 PM

Anybody laying on the Nuggets getting to the finals? It looks effortless for them since acquiring Gordon. It pains me to think about how good he would be with Luka.

Also Saddiq Bey is so good. What could have been.

Dallas41 · 04-08-2021, 10:44 AM

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Anybody laying on the Nuggets getting to the finals? It looks effortless for them since acquiring Gordon. It pains me to think about how good he would be with Luka.

Also Saddiq Bey is so good. What could have been.

I had been wanting the Mavs to trade for Gordon for the past two years

He just checked a lot of boxes for things they needed and like you I felt as if he would have a been a great lob threat in Dallas playing with Luka.

Defensively he could defend 4-5 positions also something they needed.

I'm not even going to get into the rookie debates anymore because they simply blew it plain and simple.

Thespiralgoeson · 04-06-2021, 10:20 PM

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It does get tiresome seeing teams stack up talent like this. Yeah, it may not be the best fit at times, but talent is usually what wins. Having said that, my money is still on Denver. I'm rooting for them to win it all. I'd love to see a solid team that plays team basketball anchored by a big just tear through everybody and put a stake through the heart of the midget 3-ball, analytics fanbois. The Lakers got the ball rolling with their big lineups last year winning a title. Denver winning would likely solidify a transitional wave of copycats in the NBA moving more towards size and defense. It's long overdue imo. I just wish the Mavericks would get ahead of the trend and lead the way instead of being followers.

I mean... kinda? Not really?? They played big lineups in the regular season and were successful, yes. But in the finals, Dwight and Javale were liabilities. They dominated when they sat both of those guys and went with AD at center. Javale racked up DNP's in the finals, and even Dwight got only garbage time in game 6 (1:06 mins total.)

For the record, I'm not for or against "midget 3-ball." You should play to whatever the strengths are of your roster. Denver plays the way they do because they have an all-time great big in Jokic. And yes, I am already comfortable saying that Jokic is an all-time great. Ditto Lakers, Sixers, and Jazz.

The point is, you play bigs if your bigs are good. If they're not good, but you have a roster full of shooters, then you're probably better off with "midget 3 ball."

I do think a lot or people have taken the wrong lesson in the last decade or so and just assumed that you're better off with no bigs and always playing small ball. I obviously don't share your critique of Carlisle and the Mavericks being guilty of this trend.

I think the real lesson of analytics and the 3 point revolution of the last decade is that every person you put on the floor needs to contribute on both ends of the floor. In the previous era, the Erick Dampiers of the world could be starters for championship contenders just be being big and protecting the paint on defense. But in today's NBA, you can't really afford to play 4-on-5, on offense or on defense.

Dallas41 · 04-08-2021, 08:08 PM

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It does get tiresome seeing teams stack up talent like this. Yeah, it may not be the best fit at times, but talent is usually what wins. Having said that, my money is still on Denver. I'm rooting for them to win it all. I'd love to see a solid team that plays team basketball anchored by a big just tear through everybody and put a stake through the heart of the midget 3-ball, analytics fanbois. The Lakers got the ball rolling with their big lineups last year winning a title. Denver winning would likely solidify a transitional wave of copycats in the NBA moving more towards size and defense. It's long overdue imo. I just wish the Mavericks would get ahead of the trend and lead the way instead of being followers.

TNT crew was so funny but they always keep it real

Called half the league GM's dumb by letting Drummond walk straight to LA

Was showing highlights of him playing tonight and said LA got the perfect player to bang with Jokic, Ayton and Gobert.

I personally don't by that non-sense that he can't play with AD upfront.

Even if the Lakers get 25-28 MPG from him on the floor with AD that is still better than any other frontline in the NBA.

Talent always trump system

Bryan_Wilson · 04-08-2021, 08:42 PM

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TNT crew was so funny but they always keep it real

Called half the league GM's dumb by letting Drummond walk straight to LA

Was showing highlights of him playing tonight and said LA got the perfect player to bang with Jokic, Ayton and Gobert.

I personally don't by that non-sense that he can't play with AD upfront.

Even if the Lakers get 25-28 MPG from him on the floor with AD that is still better than any other frontline in the NBA.

Talent always trump system

Context matters though. He will take less usage in LA because he's got a high chance to win a championship. He will not be ok with being a roll man on the Mavs for 8-10 shots max a game. Plus it's LA... all players want to be in LA. Plus I'm sure the Mavs and many others wanted him but did he even entertain ideas elsewhere? Nobody in contention has money to give him to not choose LA. So I disagree with TNT crew saying GM's "let him walk to LA".