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Old 11-07-2008, 02:23 PM   #1
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I'd say that the eastern conference is associated with ranking higher than normal and with ranking lower than normal, but not with ranking in the middle.
That's a fair assessment - but can you tell me who's going to win the Championship based on that data? (or in this instance, who's going to get the #1 lotto pick?)

Because that's the kind of bold conclusion this article we're discussing makes...
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Old 11-07-2008, 02:03 PM   #2
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My research shows that seven of the ten wealthiest cities in the US are also run by Democrat mayors. Maybe mayors are just more likely to be Democrat?
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My research shows that seven of the ten wealthiest cities in the US are also run by Democrat mayors. Maybe mayors are just more likely to be Democrat?
If you do more research, you'll probably find that economic discrepancy is associated with Democrats - and again (I'd guess) with no solution in sight.
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If you do more research, you'll probably find that economic discrepancy is associated with Democrats - and again (I'd guess) with no solution in sight.
So, it's the Democratic mayor of Detroit's fault that US automakers produce a shoddy product?

My point being that there are several aspects beyond just "who's in charge" that factor into poverty...
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Old 11-07-2008, 02:56 PM   #5
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Alex's answer was the correct one.
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Old 11-07-2008, 04:56 PM   #6
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Alex's answer was the correct one.
the table of cities and mayors is not used as a causal argument.

At that national black republican association website, they make claims like this:
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Click here for a Boston Globe investigation with an article and video produced by Scott LaPierre about poor blacks condemning Obama for funding dilapidated slum projects in Chicago with tax payers’ money. Obama's friends and associates profited from the subsidies even as many of Obama's constituents suffered. Tenants lost their homes; surrounding neighborhoods were blighted.
which is neither causal nor correlational.

And the only causal argument I see at that website is one about democrats and the housing mess,
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Democrats created the mortgage crisis by forcing banks to give loans to people who couldn't afford them. Click here to view a video that shows the Democrats covering up the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac scam that was at the heart of our economic crisis. Franklin Raines, a financial advisor to Obama, walked off from Fannie Mae with a $22 million dollar severance package.
which (right or wrong) isn't really correlational, either.

So unless I'm missing something, then the assumption that someone making a correlational argument must also be making a causal argument is the most egregious correlation/causation confusion in the discussion.
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Old 11-07-2008, 04:57 PM   #7
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Alex's answer was the correct one.
I'm glad to know that mcsluggo agrees with my contention that people who say "literally" when they plainly mean "figuratively" should be sentenced to a harsh and painful death.
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I'm glad to know that mcsluggo agrees with my contention that people who say "literally" when they plainly mean "figuratively" should be sentenced to a harsh and painful death.
that was figuratively a strange thing to link to.
no, wait. literally a strange thing.
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that was figuratively a strange thing to link to.
no, wait. literally a strange thing.
obviously that was the wrong link....i meant to direct folks here --> link.
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obviously that was the wrong link....i meant to direct folks here --> link.
that was literally obvious. and the website name is obviously literal.
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For a moment I thought this was the Mavs game day thread.
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For a moment I thought this was the Mavs game day thread.
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