OFFICIAL 2022 Playoffs round 1 Jazz and Mavs

[mac222b]

If it’s true though they Jalen wanted to sign an extension and the Mavs said no? It’s beyond incomprehensible. That’s why I sort of don’t believe it.

[saclare]

Originally Posted by mac222b

If it’s true though they Jalen wanted to sign an extension and the Mavs said no? It’s beyond incomprehensible. That’s why I sort of don’t believe it.

Right, and I agree. It's in the ESPN article from MacMahon.

[MFFL]

Originally Posted by mac222b

If it’s true though they Jalen wanted to sign an extension and the Mavs said no? It’s beyond incomprehensible. That’s why I sort of don’t believe it.

Actually now that I think about it, the rumor might be true.

You can't trade players who have recently signed a contract and the trade deadline was February. I can see the Mavs declining to offer an extension until after the trade deadline just because we were hoping to be active. DFS didn't sign his until after the trade deadline.

If the Mavs lost out on Lillard or Beal because they couldn't trade Brunson or DFS then that would have been a disaster. Not signing them to an extension AT WORST cost the Mavs a little bit extra money (which hopefully Cuban can afford)

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by MFFL

Actually now that I think about it, the rumor might be true.

You can't trade players who have recently signed a contract and the trade deadline was February. I can see the Mavs declining to offer an extension until after the trade deadline just because we were hoping to be active. DFS didn't sign his until after the trade deadline.

If the Mavs lost out on Lillard or Beal because they couldn't trade Brunson or DFS then that would have been a disaster. Not signing them to an extension AT WORST cost the Mavs a little bit extra money (which hopefully Cuban can afford)

Yeah but we are talking about possibly paying him almost DOUBLE. Even if Cuban can afford it, it’s just bad business. Having guys on great contracts is super valuable. Not to mention the extra 10-12m per year if you include the tax bill, is way more.

[G-Man]

Originally Posted by mac222b

Yeah but we are talking about possibly paying him almost DOUBLE. Even if Cuban can afford it, it’s just bad business. Having guys on great contracts is super valuable. Not to mention the extra 10-12m per year if you include the tax bill, is way more.

Seriously? Is there anyone on this board who predicted what JB has done in the playoffs?

Coming up on the trade deadline, he had barely cemented himself in the role of starter. At that point, I doubt any team would have offered him $20 million, unless they were desperate, like the Knicks. Had Luka not gone down, Brunson would have probably averaged 20 points a game at best, but would never have had the opportunity to lead and score like he did.

You can say fate kicked Cuban in the teeth again, if you like. But at the time they were talking about $55 million, no one n the league was thinking he'd ever be worth twice that.

But that is what he's worth now, and I want the Mavs to pay him. If other teams who want to contend have $170 million dollar payrolls, the Mavs should too. Otherwise, we aren't serious about winning.

[purplefrog]

Originally Posted by G-Man

Seriously? Is there anyone on this board who predicted what JB has done in the playoffs?

Coming up on the trade deadline, he had barely cemented himself in the role of starter. At that point, I doubt any team would have offered him $20 million, unless they were desperate, like the Knicks. Had Luka not gone down, Brunson would have probably averaged 20 points a game at best, but would never have had the opportunity to lead and score like he did.

You can say fate kicked Cuban in the teeth again, if you like. But at the time they were talking about $55 million, no one n the league was thinking he'd ever be worth twice that.

But that is what he's worth now, and I want the Mavs to pay him. If other teams who want to contend have $170 million dollar payrolls, the Mavs should too. Otherwise, we aren't serious about winning.

I couldn't agree more.

[purplefrog]

JB's improved play has gone well beyond all expectations. It is impressive that he competes at such a high level, regardless if he is paired with Luka or SD. I think he has the "it" factor. He has intangible qualities that make him and his teams winners. It's not complicated, just pay the man.

[FreshJive]

Originally Posted by G-Man

Seriously? Is there anyone on this board who predicted what JB has done in the playoffs?

Coming up on the trade deadline, he had barely cemented himself in the role of starter. At that point, I doubt any team would have offered him $20 million, unless they were desperate, like the Knicks.

By the trade deadline, it was widely speculated that 20 mil was the starting rate for JB. Knicks and Pistons were both expected to offer at least that much.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by FreshJive

By the trade deadline, it was widely speculated that 20 mil was the starting rate for JB. Knicks and Pistons were both expected to offer at least that much.

I don't recall the starting rate being that much for JB at TD.

[FreshJive]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

I don't recall the starting rate being that much for JB at TD.

I might be mixing up starting with what it’s going to take, but to say that no one thought there would be teams willing to pay him that much is just false.

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by G-Man

Seriously? Is there anyone on this board who predicted what JB has done in the playoffs?

Coming up on the trade deadline, he had barely cemented himself in the role of starter. At that point, I doubt any team would have offered him $20 million, unless they were desperate, like the Knicks. Had Luka not gone down, Brunson would have probably averaged 20 points a game at best, but would never have had the opportunity to lead and score like he did.

You can say fate kicked Cuban in the teeth again, if you like. But at the time they were talking about $55 million, no one n the league was thinking he'd ever be worth twice that.

But that is what he's worth now, and I want the Mavs to pay him. If other teams who want to contend have $170 million dollar payrolls, the Mavs should too. Otherwise, we aren't serious about winning.

Thank you. There's a hell of a lot of revisionist history going on here. Until very recently, Brunson was little more than a sparkplug off the bench. He was JJ Barea 2.0. Nobody saw this coming, and anyone who says otherwise is lying through their teeth. As I alluded to earlier, last year people on this board were legit pissed that the Mavs didn't use him as trade fodder for Oladipo. OLADIPO FFS.

The dude has taken a leap that was completely unforeseeable. I'm thrilled about it. And yes, the Mavs just need to pay him. You can always move a bad contract if you need to, but losing one of your best players and getting nothing in return? That's always a terrible move.

[FreshJive]

Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

Thank you. There's a hell of a lot of revisionist history going on here. Until very recently, Brunson was little more than a sparkplug off the bench.

Holy fuck. This is so wrong.

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by FreshJive

Holy fuck. This is so wrong.

Holy fuck, what an insightful, enlightening rebuttal. Thank you so much for clearing that up.

Good talk, bro.

[MFFL]

Originally Posted by mac222b

Yeah but we are talking about possibly paying him almost DOUBLE. Even if Cuban can afford it, it’s just bad business. Having guys on great contracts is super valuable. Not to mention the extra 10-12m per year if you include the tax bill, is way more.

20-20 vision in hindsight is great.

But knowing the Mavs were ready to move KP then anything was possible at the trade deadline. Brunson could have easily been moved - in fact, that might be WHY he wanted to sign the contract in Jan, so he would be guaranteed to not be traded