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dirt_dobber · 02-19-2007, 09:39 AM

By ART GARCIA
Star-Telegram Staff Writer
http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/ba...s/16732507.htm

LAS VEGAS -- Potentially the tensest moment of Sunday's All-Star Game never materialized.

Dirk Nowitzki and Dwyane Wade didn't greet one another as the Western and Eastern Conference starters met at Thomas & Mack Center midcourt circle just before the opening tip.

Each bumped fists and man-hugged with just about every starter out there. Somehow, Nowitzki and Wade missed sharing pleasantries.

Surprised?

Wade criticized Nowitzki's leadership skills, saying, "The reason they [the Mavericks] lost the [NBA] championship [is] because he [Nowitzki] wasn't the leader that he's supposed to be in the closing moments."

The two franchise cornerstones hadn't communicated with each other since, including the first two days of All-Star weekend despite being in the same room on several occasions.

"I don't have nothing against Dirk," Wade said. "Dirk don't have nothing against me. He said something about my team. I said something to back my team. It wasn't personal."

That's a matter for debate. Questioning someone's leadership skills is about as personal as it gets and Nowitzki privately took offense. Not one to forget it, Nowitzki has taken the high road publicly.

"To me, it's over now," he said before the West's 153-132 victory. "There's really nothing to talk about. We both did our talking and I think we're past that now.

"I haven't spoken to him. I haven't seen him. If he were to come up to me, I'd be more than willing to say something about it. But if not, I don't worry about it."

Maybe that chat comes Thursday when the Heat make their only American Airlines Center visit of the regular season.

The Mavs won 99-93 at Miami last month.

Nowitzki's no-brainer

West coach Mike D'Antoni didn't choose Dirk Nowitzki an All-Star starter to earn any brownie points with Mavericks fans.

Not having Steve Nash available made the choice academic.

"I don't mind upsetting anybody in Dallas," said D'Antoni, also the Suns' coach. "I just picked [Nowitzki] because he's playing better than anybody. There could have been a problem if Steve could have played. I probably would have upset some people in Dallas then."

Though his support for Nash is unwavering, D'Antoni said Nowitzki is the MVP favorite over the two-time winner.

"His team is the best right now," D'Antoni said. "You can definitely make that argument, but we'll have to wait until the year is out and see what team ends up best."

The NBA-leading Mavs (44-9) come out of the break leading Phoenix (39-13) by 4 1/2 games. D'Antoni said he isn't sure the Mavs can be caught, especially because they've won 30 of their past 32 games.

"If they would cooperate every once in a while and lose, but they don't lose," he said. "We're not going to catch them if they don't lose. We have to keep Steve healthy, get Kurt Thomas back. And if we catch them, we catch them. If we don't, we'll meet them later."

dirt_dobber · 02-19-2007, 09:40 AM

hyperbole

mqywaaah · 02-19-2007, 09:57 AM

Swoosh!

kg_veteran · 02-19-2007, 10:03 AM

I threw up in my mouth a little bit when Steve Kerr said something on the broadcast to the effect of, "Wade sort of put the feud to rest the other day..."

Put the feud to rest? You mean the one he created out of thin air?

dirno2000 · 02-19-2007, 01:00 PM

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I threw up in my mouth a little bit when Steve Kerr said something on the broadcast to the effect of, "Wade sort of put the feud to rest the other day..."

Put the feud to rest? You mean the one he created out of thin air?

I picked that up too. Almost like he was saying "Dwayne wade was the bigger man here since he put it to rest". My first thought was: what the hell? He started this thing out of nowhere, then to make himself look better he hides behind the shield of "i'm protecting my team".

I do agree with Galloway's general premise that Wade's comments will ultimately help the Mavs. For whatever reason, it seems that Miami is in Dirk's head. He hasn't played with that edge we're used to seeing when he's on top of his game. The fist pump and the evil snare have been absent against this team. I'm confident that we'll see it Thrusday.

Dim499 · 02-19-2007, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dirt_dobber

"I don't have nothing against Dirk," Wade said. "Dirk don't have nothing against me. He said something about my team. I said something to back my team. It wasn't personal."

So really, how ridiculous is this statement? He said something to back his team? Not once did he mention his team. He said Dirk choked and wasn't a leader. So how is that not personal? Isn't that the definition of personal? He said nothing to back his team. He could have said Miami had a great team, yet he agrees with Dirk by saying Dallas wasn't good enough in the closing moments.
Man, this guy is all about getting respect. I swear if Cowlishaw had not written the "The Heat are not worthy" article the Mavs would have probably swept them. And now Wade even looks like the bigger man by stealing Dirk's "I'm not going back and forth" line.

FINtastic · 02-19-2007, 01:11 PM

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So really, how ridiculous is this statement? He said something to back his team? Not once did he mention his team. He said Dirk choked and wasn't a leader. So how is that not personal? Isn't that the definition of personal? He said nothing to back his team. He could have said Miami had a great team, yet he agrees with Dirk by saying Dallas wasn't good enough in the closing moments.
Man, this guy is all about getting respect. I swear if Cowlishaw had not written the "The Heat are not worthy" article the Mavs would have probably swept them. And now Wade even looks like the bigger man by stealing Dirk's "I'm not going back and forth" line.

Wade's quote reminds me of a scene from Life of Brian where a crowd has decided that Brian is the messiah and so they are talking to Brian's mother, Mandy -

YOUTH: Excuse me.
MANDY: Yes?
YOUTH: Are you a virgin?
MANDY: I beg your pardon!
YOUTH: Well, if it's not a personal question, are you a virgin?
MANDY: 'If it's not a personal question'? How much more personal can you get? Now, piss off!

mqywaaah · 02-19-2007, 10:28 AM

Hold me back! Hold me back! Coz I'ma kill him!!!

Dirkadirkastan · 02-19-2007, 10:34 AM

Dirk never participated in this "feud" at any given time. Wade threw a punch and now he's running.

mqywaaah · 02-19-2007, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

Dirk never participated in this "feud" at any given time. Wade threw a punch and now he's running.

Damn right!!! Dirk acted all classy over Wade's BS, and now he's gonna say that he has put it in the past just because he's an effn p*ssy! Dang! What a fruitcake mofo! Now where was I? Oh yeah.. "Hold me back! Hold me back! I'ma kill him!!!"

purplefrog · 02-19-2007, 10:57 AM

Not to mention the fact that Dirk made his statement 8 months ago. What took D-idiot so long to respond? Is he just now realizing what Dirk said?

mqywaaah · 02-19-2007, 11:11 AM

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Not to mention the fact that Dirk made his statement 8 months ago. What took D-idiot so long to respond? Is he just now realizing what Dirk said?

Took him months to think of a comeback. Wow! Lame.

Lame Team, fake Champs, the one who, as they say, " LED" the team is a big p*ss... what more could you ask for? Makes me sick

sike · 02-19-2007, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

Dirk never participated in this "feud" at any given time. Wade threw a punch and now he's running.

he is looking a little yellow on this...

Usually Lurkin · 02-19-2007, 10:36 AM

When contrived "feuds" are a bigger story than the game, you've got one more way that the NBA is like the WWE

TheDiggler · 02-19-2007, 11:28 AM

Dirk saying that the Mavs "gave" the series away and the Heat didn't "win" is a slap in the face. Maybe you all don't see it that way, but people outside Dallas city limits see things differently.

Dallas didn't "give" anything away....The Heat took the championship and Wade stood up and lead his team to 4 Straight Victories. Dirk not giving credit where credit is due upset Wade and I (and many others) can honestly see why. Wade worked too hard to have the other team's superstar not to give credit. Dallas lost a 2-0 lead and never won another game in the series. Wade willed his team win it mattered most

purplefrog · 02-19-2007, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDiggler

Dirk saying that the Mavs "gave" the series away and the Heat didn't "win" is a slap in the face. Maybe you all don't see it that way, but people outside Dallas city limits see things differently.

Dallas didn't "give" anything away....The Heat took the championship and Wade stood up and lead his team to 4 Straight Victories. Dirk not giving credit where credit is due upset Wade and I (and many others) can honestly see why. Wade worked too hard to have the other team's superstar not to give credit. Dallas lost a 2-0 lead and never won another game in the series. Wade willed his team win it mattered most

Seriously, don't you think it is odd that Wade would bring this up at this point in time? If there was going to be a "feud" it should have been over the summer after Dirk made his remark. Why now?

TheDiggler · 02-19-2007, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

Seriously, don't you think it is odd that Wade would bring this up at this point in time? If there was going to be a "feud" it should have been over the summer after Dirk made his remark. Why now?

There really isn't a feud.....Dirk made his comments, Wade felt he needed to respond.

It's over. Wade said what he said because he felt Dirk was discrediting the win. The Heat won 4 in a row......there is no "GIVE AWAY" there.

capitalcity · 02-19-2007, 12:50 PM

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It's over.

It's not over.

Dirk will finish it on Thursday.

TheDiggler · 02-19-2007, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by capitalcity

It's not over.

Dirk will finish it on Thursday.

and admire the fact that D Wade is a champion

purplefrog · 02-19-2007, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDiggler

There really isn't a feud.....Dirk made his comments, Wade felt he needed to respond.

It's over. Wade said what he said because he felt Dirk was discrediting the win. The Heat won 4 in a row......there is no "GIVE AWAY" there.

But why do you think he waited 8 months to respond?

TheDiggler · 02-19-2007, 12:58 PM

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But why do you think he waited 8 months to respond?

I believe the suject was brought back up in a interview.....who knows. Dirk said what he said and Wade has every right to give his opinion.....whether it's two days or 12 months ago. Just my opinion

capitalcity · 02-19-2007, 12:57 PM

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Wade said what he said because he felt Dirk was discrediting the win.

Wrong again.

He's tired of hearing everybody from national commentators, to various NBA personnel, to joe-youtuber, discrediting the "win".

So instead of maning up to the criticism, he broke off a Vagina Monologue.

TheDiggler · 02-19-2007, 01:01 PM

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Wrong again.

He's tired of hearing everybody from national commentators, to various NBA personnel, to joe-youtuber, discrediting the "win".

So instead of maning up to the criticism, he broke off a Vagina Monologue.

So Dirk never said, "We gave the series away" ?

He never said that? Come on! That that biggest discredit you can give. Dirk believed that his team was better and had no business losing to the Heat, but reality is that he lost 4 in a row! I guess he should have done something about it.....maybe he'll get another chance this summer

capitalcity · 02-19-2007, 12:42 PM

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Dirk saying that the Mavs "gave" the series away and the Heat didn't "win" is a slap in the face.

And the truth.

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Maybe you all don't see it that way, but people outside Dallas city limits see things differently.

No. People living in Dade Co. see it differently.

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Dallas didn't "give" anything away....The Heat took the championship and Wade stood up and lead his team to 4 Straight Victories.

By shooting un-warranted FTs.

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Dirk not giving credit where credit is due upset Wade and I (and many others) can honestly see why.

Me too. He's a Vagina.

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He knows he' Wade worked too hard to have the other team's superstar not to give credit. Dallas lost a 2-0 lead and never won another game in the series.

Exactly what he's confirmed with his "backing his team statements". Dallas Lost.

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Wade willed his team win it mattered most.

I.E. when the whistle blew.

TheDiggler · 02-19-2007, 12:55 PM

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And the truth.
No. People living in Dade Co. see it differently.
By shooting un-warranted FTs.
Me too. He's a Vagina.
Exactly what he's confirmed with his "backing his team statements". Dallas Lost.
I.E. when the whistle blew.

Thank you....you've made my points relevant

capitalcity · 02-19-2007, 12:59 PM

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You've made my points relevant.

Roadkill.

Windmill360 · 02-19-2007, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDiggler

Dirk saying that the Mavs "gave" the series away and the Heat didn't "win" is a slap in the face. Maybe you all don't see it that way, but people outside Dallas city limits see things differently.

Dallas didn't "give" anything away....The Heat took the championship and Wade stood up and lead his team to 4 Straight Victories. Dirk not giving credit where credit is due upset Wade and I (and many others) can honestly see why. Wade worked too hard to have the other team's superstar not to give credit. Dallas lost a 2-0 lead and never won another game in the series. Wade willed his team win it mattered most

ok ok... so we can't "give" it away but we CAN "choke" it away...

Things are becoming more and more clear.

DavidSternRiggedTheFinals · 02-21-2007, 11:13 PM

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Dirk saying that the Mavs "gave" the series away and the Heat didn't "win" is a slap in the face. \

Hey guess what, when your up 2-0 in the finals with homecourt advantage it IS giving it away.

Also when dirk said the mavs gave away the series, he meant that his team let d-wade make a comeback he is capable at making by not playing solid D on him. So d-wade IS startin shit 4 no reazon

DAVID STERN RIGGED THE FINALS!

MavsX · 02-22-2007, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDiggler

Dirk saying that the Mavs "gave" the series away and the Heat didn't "win" is a slap in the face. Maybe you all don't see it that way, but people outside Dallas city limits see things differently.

Dallas didn't "give" anything away....The Heat took the championship and Wade stood up and lead his team to 4 Straight Victories. Dirk not giving credit where credit is due upset Wade and I (and many others) can honestly see why. Wade worked too hard to have the other team's superstar not to give credit. Dallas lost a 2-0 lead and never won another game in the series. Wade willed his team win it mattered most

i hope you and wade die in a fiery car crash soon.

dude1394 · 02-23-2007, 01:45 AM

Dirk "may" have disrespected the miami heat but only in the fact that he criticized his team for tossing the series. I don't recall anything but wade respect in dirks comments. And then diva makes it personal.

I have no respect for the diva-queen. And I don't have much more respect for "journalists" who condone personal insults like that. Hopefully dirk will never shake hands with the diva. I wish nothing good on the peckerhead.

LRB · 02-23-2007, 02:00 AM

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Dirk "may" have disrespected the miami heat but only in the fact that he criticized his team for tossing the series. I don't recall anything but wade respect in dirks comments. And then diva makes it personal.

I have no respect for the diva-queen. And I don't have much more respect for "journalists" who condone personal insults like that. Hopefully dirk will never shake hands with the diva. I wish nothing good on the peckerhead.

Oh I'd like to see Dirk give Diva a real hardy handshake, with the left hand.

basuketobaru · 02-23-2007, 11:04 AM

While I'm not surprised the national media, in its rush to avoid admitting that Wade's comments were petulant and unprovoked whining by a spoiled brat, missed this, I am kind of surprised it didn't get more highlighted here:

Heat coach Pat Riley understands where the Mavs are coming from. As coach of the L.A. Lakers, Riley said they "choked away" the title to Boston in 1984.

"We always felt we should have won that year, and we voiced it," he said. "But we didn't [win]. Came back next year and won it. But I'm sure [the Mavs are] just voicing the fact that they feel like they should have won. That's all."

i.e., Wade's Hall of Fame coach understands what everybody with half-a-brain should have from the beginning--Dirk's comments were never about the Heat, they were the self-directed comments that should be expected from a good team when it loses - We lost. We should have done better. We intend to do better.

mqywaaah · 02-19-2007, 11:34 AM

Oh shat! Here we go again!

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-19-2007, 11:39 AM

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By ART GARCIA
Star-Telegram Staff Writer
http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/ba...s/16732507.htm

"If they would cooperate every once in a while and lose, but they don't lose," he said. "We're not going to catch them if they don't lose. We have to keep Steve healthy, get Kurt Thomas back. And if we catch them, we catch them. If we don't, we'll meet them later."

Yeah and hey Mike, if you go out in the first round because of health, it's your fault for running your players to death and setting up a team that will always somehow have an mvp since you choose to have aboslutely no depth. Why don't you just play four players, so that when one of them gets injured, the world can see why that forth player is MVP, because four players is a lot easier to play with than three.

Oh yeah and btw, Mavs>Suns anyway you would like to spin it

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mqywaaah · 02-19-2007, 11:45 AM

Dude, chill!

haha

Underdog · 02-19-2007, 12:33 PM

Haha - we're sitting here getting pissed & stewing over DWade's continued remarks while Dirk continues to rise above the drama by simply not giving a damn... I guess Wade's publicist forgot to call Dirk's publicist before they decided to get all Paris-Britney on us...

mqywaaah · 02-19-2007, 12:41 PM

Answer that! Hmm...

mqywaaah · 02-19-2007, 01:17 PM

Why cant trolls come up with a better argument these days?

Dirkadirkastan · 02-19-2007, 02:26 PM

It doesn't have to be a conspiracy, dumbass, all it takes is some senile ref in the backcourt to think "Oh, Wade missed a shot, he must have been fouled."

DevinHarrisWillStart is right, people all over the NBA have cited favorable officiating for Wade. Tracy McGrady, Rasheed Wallace, Gerald Wallace, P. J. Brown, and Phil Jackson off the top of my head.

kg_veteran · 02-19-2007, 02:37 PM

TheDiggler - You're a Rockets fan, so you should know that McGrady said he thought the Finals appeared "rigged". If you're any sort of fan of the NBA, you should know that a number of players and coaches have complained about the favoritism by the officials toward Wade.

The complaints about the Finals go FAR beyond the DFW area. If you're going to keep trolling with your "lols" and your "get a ring, then talk" nonsense, you're going to be booted from the site pretty fast.