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Chicago JK · 10-14-2003, 10:34 PM

How bad would you feel if you were that fan right now? I feel bad for the kid. The Billy goat curse is alive and well. Can't wait to read the Chicago papers tomorrow.

Drbio · 10-14-2003, 11:13 PM

I bet the police had to give that poor guy a safe passage home. If his name gets out he is going to have to move. Holy Cow!

Max Power · 10-14-2003, 11:58 PM

Hopefully the Cubs will win game 7 and fulfill their end of the "All Loser" World Series. What a series it would be - the Cubs vs the Red Sox.

Drbio · 10-15-2003, 12:03 AM

I would watch if the Sox and Cubs played. The Yankees do nothing for me. I am still stung by the labor crapola and haven't watched ten games this year. It broke a streak that ran since the late 1970's. I cannot support baseball anymore with all the labor whining by the players.

Give me college baseball any day.

Murphy3 · 10-15-2003, 12:31 AM

the only way i want the cubs to make it to the series is if pedro martinez strikes out Sammy Sosa looking in the bottom of the ninth with the bases loaded in game seven of the World Series.... and i want it to be a fastball right down the center of the plate. After he strikes out, I want sammy to cry until he can't cry no more... after that, he can go back to corking bats and beating women

mary · 10-15-2003, 01:18 AM

Tuesday, October 14, 2003

Associated Press
CHICAGO -- Chicago Cubs supporters showed up for a nightlong party at Wrigley Field on Tuesday, only to have their raucous celebration snuffed by a stunning late-inning rally that left them cursing a fellow fan.

In a sudden eighth-inning turnaround, the Florida Marlins took advantage of left fielder Moises Alou's run-in with a fan on a foul fly and an error by shortstop Alex Gonzalez to score eight runs in an 8-3 victory, forcing the NL championship series to a Game 7.

People, who minutes earlier were dancing and singing the praises of the Cubs, suddenly turned their wrath on the fan who grabbed for the fly ball just as Alou attempted to catch it. Obscene chants echoed from inside the stadium and from the surrounding streets, where thousands gathered to celebrate what they hoped would be the Cubs' first trip to the World Series since 1945.

Ballpark guards escorted the man, who was wearing a Cubs hat, from his seat along the low outfield wall and into a security office as the game ended. He covered his face with a sweater as he walked past fans who pelted him with cups of beer and shouted obscenities. Some chanted "kill him."

Jim Cuthbert, 33, said he was sitting about 15 to 20 rows behind the fan and was kicked out after approaching to berate him.

"My wife was hanging on to my arm. I was going nuts. That idiot. We were five outs away," Cuthbert said.

Fans outside the ballpark at first couldn't believe what they were hearing on radios or watching on portable televisions.

"I hope he gets an escort out," said Mary Krueger of suburban Niles, who watched the mishap on a portable TV while standing on Waveland Avenue behind Wrigley's left-field wall. "One more night, that's all."

But for other fans, the loss brought back fans' worst fears of the Cubs' many previous late-season collapses.

"I've seen this movie before," said Torey Stern, 39, of Chicago. "I saw it in '84 with the Padres, in '89 with the Giants and in '98 with the Braves. The movie ends the same."

Earlier in the game, people jammed the many bars in the Wrigleyville neighborhood surrounding the stadium and thousands more packed the streets, waving signs, chanting and dancing. Some bodysurfed across the crowd on Waveland Avenue.

Tony Kloss flew to Chicago on Tuesday morning from New Jersey along with his two employees, even though they didn't have tickets. The 27-year-old business owner said he watched the Cubs on TV as a child and just wanted to be with the crowds outside.

"I love the crowd, I love Chicago," he said.

But the roar of cheers turned to groans as those outside learned of the sudden change of fortunes. Some sat down in the street where minutes earlier they had been jumping.

Fans began to stream outside of the stadium immediately after the game, talking to friends on cellular phones about the defeat.

"Look at how silent everyone is," said Ray Shannon, 52, of Brookfield, Wis., who watched the game from the rooftop of a nearby building. "We were up on the roof high-fiving and pouring beers on guys and suddenly somebody turns the lights out. It's shock theater."

Lvubun1 · 10-15-2003, 05:08 AM

This is on the cover of the ESPN front page, the Chicago Tribune, and every other paper in the country. This guy better move to Peru.

Usually Lurkin · 10-15-2003, 06:41 AM

he didn't even catch the ball. man, that's hilarious.

and no one is talking about the stupid infield error on the next play

Murphy3 · 10-15-2003, 08:30 AM

yep..it was a double-play ball hit to gonzales. if he makes the play, the Cubs probably win the game.

Damn, villifying this fan is just taking ALL the heat off of the Cubs players when they still had every chance to make the plays to get out of the inning. How about putting some of the blame on the pitchers or on Baker for his mis-management of personnel decisions...

Big Boy Laroux · 10-15-2003, 09:53 AM

well, a few things. he's not a kid. he's a grown man that should know to keep his hands away from the damn ball. at first, i thought it was a kid, and then i was just kinda pissed... but when i saw the replay and saw it was an adult? argh!

also, look at the picture! the guys right beside him had the sense to back up from the play! i wonder if people around him were yelling to keep away, but he couldn't hear because of the damn headphones...

But... even as a cubs fan, i can keep my head about this. there's no guarantee alou would have caught the ball. to me, the error by gonzalez is what really opened the flood gates. it's not like the fan interfered with a home run ball like jeffrey mahrer. it was a strike on the batter, it's up to the players to keep their head and get out of the inning. that ground ball just ate up gonzalez. it probably would have been tough to get two on a deep grounder like that, but they'd at least have gotten one...

basically, 1 fan interfering with a foul ball does not equate to giving up 8 runs in an inning.

i probably would have been pissed, too, if I were at the game. probably would have yelled at the guy. but people threatening to harm the guy? that's juvenile.

grbh · 10-15-2003, 10:11 AM

If you thought Bill Buckner has had a rough go of it after baseball it will be nothing compared to the hell this guy will go through if the Cubs don't win tonight.

Chicago JK · 10-15-2003, 10:19 AM

Just a hypothetical question. Lets say you had courtside seats to game 6 of the Mavericks Championship series. You brought with you a weird bag that you had down at your feet during the game. In the third quarter Dirk runs for a loose ball and steps on your bag and twists his ankle severly and is unable to play for game 6 and game 7 of the series. If the whole stadium got on you non stop cussing and throwing beer on you, your picture was put on most sports websites and ridiculed on talk radio...would this hurt your love for the Mavs? Could you still be a Mav fan if every mav fan in the country literally despised you? Just curious.

dallas_esq · 10-15-2003, 10:30 AM

If ostracized thus I would have to retire to the island of Elba.

Big Boy Laroux · 10-15-2003, 10:31 AM

chicago jk is the cubs fan the interfered with the play! it's obvious!

anyway, the situation you present isn't really comparable in my mind. you didn't actively interfere. people bring bags/purses all the time (although i doubt a "weird shaped bag" would make it past security nowadays...). now, if you threw the bag on the court, that would be interference.

madape · 10-15-2003, 10:33 AM

Hahaha. Stupid Cubs. They will always be losers. Good job by the fan in that picture. I hope his ugly mug becomes a lasting image symbolizing the Cubs' century of ineptness. The man that changed the destiny of a franchise - the man who doomed the Cubs to another 100 years of disappointment. Hahah. Baseball is wonderful.

dallas_esq · 10-15-2003, 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by: madape
Hahaha. Stupid Cubs. They will always be losers. Good job by the fan in that picture. I hope his ugly mug becomes a lasting image symbolizing the Cubs' century of ineptness. The man that changed the destiny of a franchise - the man who doomed the Cubs to another 100 years of disappointment. Hahah. Baseball is wonderful.

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From article submitted by Veruca Ballpark guards escorted the man, who was wearing a Cubs hat, from his seat along the low outfield wall and into a security office as the game ended. He covered his face with a sweater as he walked past fans who pelted him with cups of beer and shouted obscenities. Some chanted "kill him."

Stupid Cubs, stupid Cub fans. Games are won by the play on the field. They gave up EIGHT RUNS. They only scored three. This nincompoop does not deserve blame for a LOSS. He was only on the field for one play! He didn't even miss a field goal!

Instead, he should be issued a check by the organization for having played that day, then rendered banned from the ballpark for life. Fans, get off this poor guy. Is this South American soccer now? Everyone in the country is rooting for your stupid Cubs. Show some class.

He will make a nice poster boy though. What a supreme dork. He's into the game, he's listening on his headphones, I wonder what the announcers said in his headphones after they saw him do that. This guy has to feel pretty bad right now. I'm rooting for the Cubs to win so he doesn't end up in a dumpster somewhere.