Chad Ford and ESPN on Finley swap - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

Drbio · 02-15-2005, 04:57 PM

I was just listening to ESPN radio and they had Chad Ford on (I think it was him) who was talking about trades that might happen. He completely lost me at Mike Finley for Latrell Sprewell.

Although it does work via the CBA, there is no way in heck that that trade would go down.

Has anyone else heard any other doozies?

bo319 · 02-15-2005, 05:23 PM

That one WOULD allow us to get younger and cheaper. Spree is in the last year of his deal where as Fin's deal just goes on and on. That being said and since it aint my money...I would rather keep Fin.

FilthyFinMavs · 02-15-2005, 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by: bo319
That one WOULD allow us to get younger and cheaper. Spree is in the last year of his deal where as Fin's deal just goes on and on. That being said and since it aint my money...I would rather keep Fin.

Even if we lost Fin's salary we would still be over the cap and that's not factoring in that in '06 we are going to have to resign Josh Howard.

Drbio · 02-15-2005, 05:57 PM

I think this is a case of Ford pulling one out of his heiny and hoping it would take roots. I cannot imagine Cuban shipping Finley out, even for the financial relief.

vinnieponte · 02-15-2005, 06:00 PM

lets say finley goes through this slump on and off for the reast of the season, by then cuban would have to ship him out in the offseason for sure. I just dont see anything happening with him right now.

GP · 02-15-2005, 06:11 PM

If there is a coach in the NBA who can coach this idiot it is Nellie. Those two were very successful together for a short while. Unfortunately for Spree, he has tanked on the T-Wolves and who knows if that jump shot will ever come back. Why would the Mavs do this deal? Fin is a different style of player than the other swingmen on this team. Daniels, Howard and Stack are all slashers and weak jump shooters just like Spree is. Fin is a great shooter (when he's on) and looks like he is going to rebound and play D from here on out. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

Poindexter Einstein · 02-15-2005, 08:56 PM

Ford has said online that Cuban isnt trading Finley for anyone.

But Finley for Spree makes some sense from both ends. It allows the Twolves to move Spree and get some talent. It allows the Mavs to move Fin (in essence erase his contract) if they feel he is slipping in talent and/or leadership to the extent they need to be rid of him. In the short-term Spree replaces Fin, but in the longterm it opens up the SF/SG for a Howard/Daniels pair, with Stack as the 6th man. The contract savings doesnt get them under the cap, but it still saves them about 100M over 3 years (counting tax) which is quite relevant.

sike · 02-15-2005, 09:25 PM

trade section?

not gonna happen....though if the goal is to see Quis become the starter sooner rather than later......

MavsFanFinley · 02-15-2005, 10:36 PM

Would the Mavs deal with a rival?

Drbio · 02-15-2005, 11:07 PM

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Ford has said online that Cuban isnt trading Finley for anyone.

Apparently he (Ford) has changed his mind PE.

mary · 02-16-2005, 01:15 AM

My head tells me this is an intriguing possibility. But please Lord, don't make me root for Latrell Spreewell

Dooby · 02-16-2005, 09:19 AM

When people were wondering where Sprewell was going to wind up originally after the choking incident, I vaguely recall the Don Nelson expressing some mild interest and speaking highly of Sprewell.

It isn't that bad a trade in concept. We lose Finley's salary and move Howard, Daniels or Stack into the permanent 2-spot.

EricaLubarsky · 02-16-2005, 10:39 AM

of all the trades for Finley, Sprewell makes the least sense.

Poindexter Einstein · 02-16-2005, 04:57 PM

DrBio, NOTHING has changed with Chad Ford.

In print - he speculated all day long about Finley getting traded. Then he said "Oh, by the way, the Mavs likely arent doing anything. I asked Cuban and he said the Mavs have absolutely no interest in any trade for Finley."

Then he goes back to speculating about trades for Finley.

Classic Chad Ford tripe. His speculation is never deterred by reality or rationality.

kg_veteran · 02-16-2005, 05:44 PM

I saw David Lord engaging in the same speculation at db.com. I can't recall whether he commented on the likelihood of such a deal occurring or whether he simply went over the pros and cons of such a deal. He also talked about the possibility of Finley for Jalen Rose.

Either way, it's all a bunch of nonsense. Finley isn't going to be traded for a salary dump (Sprewell), nor is he going to be traded for a guy with a slightly shorter contract (Rose), just so the Mavs can get rid of him. Finley is a contributor to this team, and it appears that all he needed to get his game back on track was a good butt-chewing from Nellie. Mike isn't going anywhere.

jayC · 02-17-2005, 07:54 PM

Spree is a nellie guy. Fin has been pouting this year about not enough shots. Stackhouse is a more complete player then Finley.

fin4life · 02-19-2005, 09:39 AM

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Spree is a nellie guy. Fin has been pouting this year about not enough shots. Stackhouse is a more complete player then Finley.

Finley hasnt been pouting at all. We need Finley becasue he is the only swingman we have who can consistantly hit the three. Also, we would have somewhat of an identity crisis if we delt Finley for Spreewell. I know that Cuban would never do this deal, but I cant bekieve that people on this board would. Spreewell is the scum of this leage. We dont need him coming in here and dememnding to get risigned or anything like that. This guy has spit on fans and choked a coach. I have no interest in a low-life like him.

It would be a sad day in mavericks history if we traded Michael finley, a classy guy who was the cornerstone of this franchise for so long, for a piece of $H!T like spreewell.

sike · 02-19-2005, 12:19 PM

it is silly for anyone to speculate on who has been or "hasnt been" pouting....unless you have links or insight of some kind...it is worthless

EricaLubarsky · 02-19-2005, 02:25 PM

Unless you are Santa!

sike · 02-19-2005, 02:46 PM

he does not have to speculate.....he "KNOWS" if you've been bad or good.....so be good for goodness sake!

finman11 · 02-20-2005, 01:33 AM

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That one WOULD allow us to get younger and cheaper. Spree is in the last year of his deal where as Fin's deal just goes on and on. That being said and since it aint my money...I would rather keep Fin.

Even if we lost Fin's salary we would still be over the cap and that's not factoring in that in '06 we are going to have to resign Josh Howard.

i dont really comprehend the ligistics for our cap and all i want to know is will we be able to resign him in 06... does anyone who what we can do to make sure we can resign him

mavsfanforever · 02-20-2005, 05:37 PM

I made a list of players I do not want to see in mavs jersey and sprewell is on the top 5 on that list.

EricaLubarsky · 02-20-2005, 06:51 PM

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I made a list of players I do not want to see in mavs jersey and sprewell is on the top 5 on that list.

An Antoine Walker for Finley trade works straight up, and Walker is a free agent after ths year which means the Mavs may finally get the cap room they've always wanted. And besides, Walker has already played with Nelson, so he might be a better fit here than Finley.

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XERXES · 02-20-2005, 11:40 PM

do we really want mightytoine back here at d-m?

sike · 02-21-2005, 12:31 AM

so many laughs...so many headaches....

FilthyFinMavs · 02-21-2005, 02:17 AM

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Originally posted by: bo319
That one WOULD allow us to get younger and cheaper. Spree is in the last year of his deal where as Fin's deal just goes on and on. That being said and since it aint my money...I would rather keep Fin.

Even if we lost Fin's salary we would still be over the cap and that's not factoring in that in '06 we are going to have to resign Josh Howard.

i dont really comprehend the ligistics for our cap and all i want to know is will we be able to resign him in 06... does anyone who what we can do to make sure we can resign him

Josh's contract runs out after 3 year so I believe we can sign him for as much as we want. The only way we can lose Josh is if he no longer wants to be a Mav.

EricaLubarsky · 02-21-2005, 02:42 AM

we will not be limited to the MLE in re-signing Howard.