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Old 07-08-2015, 03:15 PM   #401
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Yeah, the writing is on the wall, isn't it? I'm telling you guys, this could be a blessing in disguise. We could have a shot at Ben Simmons, he is supposedly a generational talent. Who knows, maybe this could really be our "David Robinson year".
Yep, gotta tank for sure. And yes, Ben Simmons is quite the talent.
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If Deandre Jordan is the difference between rebuilding and not....this organization has more problems than we think. I Don't know what you guys thought we were getting in Deandre Jordan but he's not Shaq. He's a great defensive player and rebounder and a liability as a free throw shooter on offense. If you weren't rebuilding post-Deandre than IMO you shouldn't be doing it if you lose out on him either.

It's not about Jordan being such a good player that he would save the team. Its the fact that we let everyone else go and planned the whole team around the thought that we had him.
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That sounds like some agent-speak to try and save his rep.
Yeah, that's total made up horse poop. Teams can't make free agents make decisions.

ANyway, if he was going to say he was leaving, then who cares if he did it on friday or monday? He'd still be coming here. We just live in the real world of greed, click bait, and nonsense.
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If Deandre Jordan is the difference between rebuilding and not....this organization has more problems than we think. I Don't know what you guys thought we were getting in Deandre Jordan but he's not Shaq. He's a great defensive player and rebounder and a liability as a free throw shooter on offense. If you weren't rebuilding post-Deandre than IMO you shouldn't be doing it if you lose out on him either.
I respect that, but it wasn't just Deandre. It was a young core with a top-3 center in the league. It was Matthews, who will leave now. It's Parsons who won't be happy now. It's the 2016 draft pick that we gave to the Celtics. It's a game of dominoes and Jordan was the biggest piece.

So, no. Jordan wasn't a one-man all-in or all-out, but he was the domino that went from solid 20-something core of three star players in an attractive city of potential with another max contract next season to a team who will trade away all of its assets for nothing just so it can start rebuilding.

Jordan leaves? Matthews leaves. Both of them leave? Parsons wants out and Rick leaves for a contender. Suddenly Dallas has no buzz. No verve. It's not an exciting up-and-coming city anymore. It's just another sad rebuild.

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Might be done with the NBA after this. This makes the Miami fiasco look reasoned and ethical. These guys have the mental capacity of a tin can and the moral fiber of a common criminal. Hope he blows out his knee game 1 of the regular season.
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We'll see what happens. I don't think he's coming here but the media hype and need to over report every little thing might be making this look worse than it is (and it's pretty bad).

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What do you expect? He's the difference between making a run with a young core and dumping salary and starting the rebuilding process. Cuban already said he's look to tank and hit the lottery. Rick Carlisle said he'd leave if they rebuilt. It's not a small thing that our starting star center and centerpiece of the Matthews-Parsons-Jordan young core just up and left. It isn't one player that is leaving. It's potentially years of rebuilding in which we are a lottery team without a decent coach.

Losing Jordan (and yes, I'd assume he's already gone), means that we'll most likely lose Matthews, Rick, and potentially Parsons. We know we are losing Dirk to age as well.

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I respect that, but it wasn't just Deandre. It was a young core with a top-3 center in the league. It was Matthews, who will leave now. It's Parsons who won't be happy now. It's the 2016 draft pick that we gave to the Celtics. It's a game of dominoes and Jordan was the biggest piece.

So, no. Jordan wasn't a one-man all-in or all-out, but he was the domino that went from solid 20-something core of three star players in an attractive city of potential with another max contract next season to a team who will trade away all of its assets for nothing just so it can start rebuilding.

Jordan leaves? Matthews leaves. Both of them leave? Parsons wants out and Rick leaves for a contender. Suddenly Dallas has no buzz. No verve. It's not an exciting up-and-coming city anymore. It's just another sad rebuild.

I understand that aspect of it. But IMO, this organization has been putting a band aid over a gun shot wound for far too long now. This team should've been rebuilding 2 or 3 years ago. Or at the very least should've been developing young talent outside of their veteran core.

This team even with Deandre was far away from truly contending and the only help that seems to becoming is waiting for the cap to jump and try to add pieces or a piece in free agency next year. This free agency game is a never ending game.

I personally believe everyone is blowing this out of proportion and wouldn't be shocked if he does come back. But if the worst thing to come out of all this is this organization to rebuild and start taking the draft more seriously? I can't complain. But with the way this is going........we'd probably pick 8th next year and have to give our pick to the Celtics.

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But they let all of those guys go prior to even knowing if Deandre would come or not.
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I understand that aspect of it. But IMO, this organization has been putting a band aid over a gun shot wound for far too long now. This team should've been rebuilding 2 or 3 years ago.
No question about it, but we couldn't, and you know why. Because we had a generational talent who happened to be one of the most loyal guys in the NBA. We just could not do it to Dirk, and I think we were all fine with it, even those who wanted a rebuild, like you, or like me. Dirk deserved to have a competitive team that either made the playoffs or was fighting for a playoff spot in each season. Anyway, I'm anxiously await what Dirk has to say about this if it indeed materializes the way I think most of us suspect at this moment.

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what Dirk has to say about this
Dirk will say...., I'm not Deandre i will honor my agreement and play 2 more years for DAL, no matter what.

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No question about it, but we couldn't, and you know why. Because we had a generational talent who happened to be one of the most loyal guys in the NBA. We just could not do it to Dirk, and I think we were all fine with it, even those who wanted a rebuild, like you, or like me. Dirk deserved to have a competitive team that either made the playoffs or was fighting for a playoff spot in each season. Anyway, I'm anxiously await what Dirk has to say about this if it indeed materializes the way I think most of us suspect at this moment.
Yeah I know and its easy for me to sit here and say we should've been more cut throat about it.......they should've let Dirk go to a contender. All Dirk has done is be apart of 1st round exits and promises of being active in free agency. Now he's at the end of his career and things look worse.


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I'm right there with you.
It's my son's 2nd birthday today. I just want to go out to dinner with the family and celebrate. This is totally messing with my day. I know it's not the end of the world if we don't keep DJ, but I'm certainly trying to not think about the ramifications.
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Dirk will say...., I'm not Deandre i will honor my agreement and play 2 more years for DAL, no matter what.
I wouldn't fault Dirk at all for asking for a trade or retire. Not at all. He has to feel like he's wasted the end of his career these past 3 or 4 years.
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I've never been willing to admit that we need to blow it up, but if we lose DJ, we need to start over. There, I said it.
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So this is the DeAndre moratorium...all NBA rumors have come to a screeching halt.
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I've never been willing to admit that we need to blow it up, but if we lose DJ, we need to start over. There, I said it.
Cubes already said it. He said we'd tank to get our "David Robinson" except we have to tank REALLY hard, because of we get the 8th pick, we give it to Boston for that waste of space, Rondo.
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He's currently meeting with the Clippers.
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He's currently meeting with the Clippers.
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But then that will give us 3 meetings to their 2. Is Doc gonna bleed from his vagina about us having more meetings again?
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Am I missing something on Twitter?.. I'm on Woj's feed and don't see that tweet.
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can anyone confirm if it is a fake twitter or something
I don't know where you're getting that, but it's not from @WojYahooNBA.
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Woj didn't tweet that. I'm looking at his timeline right now.
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Actually hoping Matthews backed out. Without a center, this team is in no mans land. Not good enough to to make the playoffs but not bad enough to get the top 7 pick we need to hit it big in the lottery.
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Just read Matthews will sign with Dallas regardless.
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