11-08-2010, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Flacolaco
You liked Baltar??
No one likes Baltar!
I want to fight you.
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What??
Baltar epitomized each of humanity's weaknesses at one point or another - vanity, pride, lust, envy, greed, excess, wrath, treachery, apathy, cowardice, despair.
He was easily the most relatable character on the show.
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11-08-2010, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
What??
Baltar epitomized each of humanity's weaknesses at one point or another - vanity, pride, lust, envy, greed, excess, wrath, treachery, apathy, cowardice, despair.
He was easily the most relatable character on the show.
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I agree...he was always an extreme of some kind, but I pretty much always felt sorry for him. He is the kid that just doesn't know how to get along with anyone and doesn't have any close friends.
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11-08-2010, 02:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flacolaco
You liked Baltar??
No one likes Baltar!
I want to fight you.
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Just don't tell me you liked Lee or Starbuck...sigh, so lame and cardboard.
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ok, we've talked about the problem of evil, and the extent of the atonement's application, but my real question to you is, "Could Jesus dunk?"
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11-08-2010, 05:02 PM
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So here is an honest question...why did the other "skin job" cylons not know who the "final five" were but Cavil did? I'm assuming somehow he erased their collective memories, but was that ever expressly said?
and why didn't 4 of the "final five" remember who they were? Seems that Ellen remembered everything, but the other 4 had different degrees of memory of their old lives.
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ok, we've talked about the problem of evil, and the extent of the atonement's application, but my real question to you is, "Could Jesus dunk?"
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11-08-2010, 05:30 PM
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SPOILERS
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Originally Posted by sike
So here is an honest question...why did the other "skin job" cylons not know who the "final five" were but Cavil did? I'm assuming somehow he erased their collective memories, but was that ever expressly said?
and why didn't 4 of the "final five" remember who they were? Seems that Ellen remembered everything, but the other 4 had different degrees of memory of their old lives.
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Yep, I'm pretty sure Cavil mentions it at some point during the final season, but I know for sure that he lays out a full explanation in 'The Plan'.
Cavil wiped the memories of their current bodies so they wouldn't know who they were when the colonies were attacked - he wanted them to *feel* just how pathetic being human actually was... The plan kinda backfired when none of the 4 were actually killed in the invasion and, ironically, the "belief" that they had always been human ended up playing a key role in ending the war between man and Cylons. Cavil had to suffer through the knowledge of being a Cylon trapped in a meat puppet body, whereas the other 4 got to experience the joys of "being human" because they were unaware of their true nature...
Only Ellen remembered who she was because her mind-erased body was killed and she was downloaded into a new body that remembered everything.
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Last edited by Underdog; 11-08-2010 at 05:42 PM.
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11-08-2010, 05:43 PM
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SPOILERS...?
I am still working through this show. I think I prefer season 1 to any of the seasons (and the beginning to anything since). I got a momentary spark of giddiness when Baltar became the nagging voice in 6's head. That was hilarious.
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Is this ghost ball??
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11-08-2010, 05:50 PM
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Underdog again.
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11-08-2010, 07:37 PM
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2 things...
1. Woah...why did they pilot the fleet's ships into the sun??? Because Technology is bad??!!
pleeeeeeezzzzz.
2. What was with all that Kara being the "destroyer" garbage?
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11-08-2010, 07:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sike
2 things...
1. Woah...why did they pilot the fleet's ships into the sun??? Because Technology is bad??!!
pleeeeeeezzzzz.
2. What was with all that Kara being the "destroyer" garbage?
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1. Not that technology was bad, but because the Cylons could detect the technology. No tech = no Cylons = no problems.
2. Yeah... What? I think they wrote themselves into a corner with Starbuck. That's my only major criticism of this show.
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11-08-2010, 09:57 PM
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I didn't mind the ending...it was a pretty good series overall with bold writing and honest pictures of humans.
It won't hold up in my memory as a classically great show, but it was very good.
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11-09-2010, 01:37 AM
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Watched "The Plan" tonight.
SPOILER:
When Cavil stabbed that little boy I literally drew in a deep breath of surprise. That was hardcore. "Friends are dangerous." Wow.
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11-09-2010, 01:52 PM
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The Plan was probably superfluous and a little self indulgent by them as an attempt to explain themselves to the viewers... but I really enjoyed it.
And after two complete viewings, it's definitely one of my favorite shows of all time. Very high up on my list, but maybe that's just me.
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