02-10-2011, 01:37 PM
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Jerry Sloan to Resign???
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02-10-2011, 01:49 PM
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Wow! He just signed an extension a few days ago.
Now they have updated the article, last sentence is especially interesting:
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KSL has learned that Utah Jazz coach Jerry Sloan and assistant coach Phil Johnson will resign at a press conference later Thursday.
More details will be posted as they become available.
The news comes after the Jazz lost to Chicago in Salt Lake City on Wednesday, where former Jazz players Kyle Korver and Ronnie Brewer helped the Bulls escape Utah with a 91-86 win.
After the game, Sloan didn't come out of his office for a postgame interview until about a half-hour after his team lost for the 10th time in 14 games.
The Hall of Famer, who usually talks to reporters about 10 minutes after the final buzzer, had been in a discussion with general manager Kevin O'Connor.
"We just had something we had to discuss," Sloan said, "and we'll talk to you all later on about that." A major part of the discussion, however, was the possibility of a trade in the works.
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02-10-2011, 01:52 PM
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Sloan is the only reason Utah stays relevant...if he leaves, so does that entire organization....then maybe we could pry away Deron Williams
EDIT: I thinks its time...he has coached like 598748543154 NBA seasons and is the longest tenured coach in any sport.
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02-10-2011, 01:56 PM
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Williams has been less than enthused about the state of the team as of late. I doubt the GM would abandon Williams now, but he wanted to shake it up to make him happy.
Sloan just saw two guys (Korver, Brewer) and maybe even Boozer walk and boost a team in Chicago...now the GM wants to do another deal? I would be pissed too.
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02-10-2011, 01:58 PM
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To be honest I doubt he is resigning....someone that coaches this many years wont quit midseason, unless fired, and i doubt he was fired.
With that being said it has to be a trade of some sort
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At what point, if a team ALWAYS takes too many jumpshots, do we wonder if it’s a case of dumb students or a case of a bad teacher?
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02-10-2011, 02:17 PM
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Seems fishy... he signed an extension a few days ago and all of a sudden resigns? Looks like he was forced to...
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02-10-2011, 02:31 PM
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Deron is gone by 2012 or before. He is pissed about the ownership cheaping out and hurting the team significant (not matching the MLE for Matthews etc).
Half of the league gonna go after Williams now
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02-10-2011, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9
Williams has been less than enthused about the state of the team as of late. I doubt the GM would abandon Williams now, but he wanted to shake it up to make him happy.
Sloan just saw two guys (Korver, Brewer) and maybe even Boozer walk and boost a team in Chicago...now the GM wants to do another deal? I would be pissed too.
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Williams could have pushed him out the door. Williams might have demanded a trade out. I think it really hs nothing to do with Sloan's system, but the players they have, the personnel they lost and Sloan still applying his system.
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02-10-2011, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick41
Seems fishy... he signed an extension a few days ago and all of a sudden resigns? Looks like he was forced to...
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Lot more had happened after last night's game.
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02-10-2011, 02:38 PM
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Watch Utah hire Bob Ortegel and dominate the league.
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02-10-2011, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by sefant77
Deron is gone by 2012 or before. He is pissed about the ownership cheaping out and hurting the team significant (not matching the MLE for Matthews etc).
Half of the league gonna go after Williams now
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I'm sure Cuban has called SLC about 27 times today.
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02-10-2011, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by sefant77
Deron is gone by 2012 or before. He is pissed about the ownership cheaping out and hurting the team significant (not matching the MLE for Matthews etc).
Half of the league gonna go after Williams now
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Best guess, the superpowers, maybe top 10 teams just got much stronger and Utah has joined the ranks of have nots.
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02-10-2011, 02:45 PM
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I'm sure Cuban has called SLC about 27 times today.
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Oh, yea, defiinitely, Butler, picks, and cash for Williams.
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02-10-2011, 03:00 PM
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I have a feeling Utah's not going to be interested in trading the cornerstone of their franchise in addition to losing their long-tenured coach.
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02-10-2011, 03:05 PM
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Oh, yea, defiinitely, Butler, picks, and cash for Williams.
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Would you consider throwing in Roddy?
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02-10-2011, 03:09 PM
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I have a feeling Utah's not going to be interested in trading the cornerstone of their franchise in addition to losing their long-tenured coach.
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Looks like Williams forced him out. They've been at odds with each other all year long.
Team had to decide between Williams and Sloan and they picked Williams.
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02-10-2011, 03:13 PM
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Would you consider throwing in Roddy?
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Yes. Eerily similar to how Kidd clashed with Cleamons, except back then it was the player who was sent packing.
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02-10-2011, 03:13 PM
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02-10-2011, 03:13 PM
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yeah well unless the owner ponies up I still think Deron leaves in 2011
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02-10-2011, 03:16 PM
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Spurs proudly tweet, Pop is the longest tenured coach at 15 years.
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02-10-2011, 03:32 PM
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Williams won't stay in Utah unless they get a boatload of talent coming. Based on the GM's results as of late, signs don't look promising. The pressure is all on Williams (from the team and the community).
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02-10-2011, 03:33 PM
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Its amazing what happens when you have 3 bigs as soft as marshmellos
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02-10-2011, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9
Looks like Williams forced him out. They've been at odds with each other all year long.
Team had to decide between Williams and Sloan and they picked Williams.
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Well there you go.
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02-10-2011, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9
Williams won't stay in Utah unless they get a boatload of talent coming. Based on the GM's results as of late, signs don't look promising. The pressure is all on Williams (from the team and the community).
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....the W's got to start piling up...he wants to see results even though he was 5-13 shooting with 5 TO's.
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02-10-2011, 03:35 PM
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As mentioned before, the Jazz owner has been quite cheap in recent years and obviously frustrated Deron Williams in the process. Not offering Boozer 5 years at $75 million is one thing since they already had Milsap, but losing talented and relatively inexpensive players like Korver, Brewer and Matthews in such a short time to replace them with an almost washed up Raja Bell and an unproven rookie like Gordon Hayward doesn't do you any favors.
Chicago looks like an updated and more ambitious version of the Utah Jazz these days. It must be painful to get beaten by those guys in your own arena.
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Williams won't stay in Utah unless they get a boatload of talent coming. Based on the GM's results as of late, signs don't look promising. The pressure is all on Williams (from the team and the community).
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I agree. I can't remember a time in the that last couple of years when Williams didn't criticize decisions in a roundabout way. They don't have a whole lot of time left to convince him that they're willing to bring in talent to win a ring.
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02-10-2011, 03:48 PM
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As mentioned before, the Jazz owner has been quite cheap in recent years and obviously frustrated Deron Williams in the process. Not offering Boozer 5 years at $75 million is one thing since they already had Milsap, but losing talented and relatively inexpensive players like Korver, Brewer and Matthews in such a short time to replace them with an almost washed up Raja Bell and an unproven rookie like Gordon Hayward doesn't do you any favors.
Chicago looks like an updated and more ambitious version of the Utah Jazz these days. It must be painful to get beaten by those guys in your own arena.
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These guys have always drafted well, taken the time to develop the young players before giving them rope. I mean a few years back, they had a power rotation of Okur, Boozer, Millsap and AK47. You can run AK47, Brewer, CJ Miles, Wes Matthews on the wings interchangeably without losing a beat, they were deep. The depth was due for raises, ownership did step up by matching Millsap, but let Matthews walk. They let the pieces that fit around the superstars walk, now they filling the gap with undrafted free agents, that have not panned out. Were they going to many times to their scouting well? Probably in this day and age where scouting takes you to the shack of a gym in the town you never heard of....unheard of talent once the prize of the Utah system is now being snapped up throughout the league. Now you waste the pick of Hayward? Does he have the potential to be a starter in this league, or someone that fit Sloan's system?
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02-10-2011, 04:53 PM
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...retiring021011
Sloan resigning after clash with Williams
By Adrian Wojnarowski and Marc J. Spears, Yahoo! Sports
26 minutes ago
After a 23-season Hall-of-Fame run as coach of the Utah Jazz, Jerry Sloan abruptly resigned his job on Thursday.
Sloan, 68, had agreed to a one-year contract extension in the past week but things publicly turned late Wednesday after a long meeting with Jazz general manager Kevin O’Connor following the team’s loss to the Chicago Bulls in Salt Lake City. Sloan and his longtime assistant, Phil Johnson, resigned together on Thursday. The Jazz planned a 5 p.m. ET news conference to officially make the announcement.
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Sloan’s relationship with point guard Deron Williams(notes) had grown progressively worse over the course of the season, league sources said, and the coach had tired of dealing with the team’s best player. The frustration escalated on Wednesday night when Sloan and Williams clashed in the locker room at halftime.
“He decided right there in halftime that he was done,” a league source told Yahoo! Sports. “He felt like ownership was listening more to Williams than they were to him anymore. He was done.”
One source said Sloan had become tired of Williams “blaming everything on everyone else.” Still, Williams, who can become a free agent in the summer of 2012, has remained the Jazz’s best and most consistent player after the departure of several key teammates. Williams has always had a reputation for wanting to win badly and being a strong leader.
Assistant coach Ty Corbin, who is expected to be a candidate for other head-coaching jobs next offseason, is believed to be the heir apparent. His agent, Steve Kauffman, was still waiting to hear from Jazz officials on Thursday afternoon about the naming of Corbin as the interim coach.
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02-10-2011, 04:59 PM
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I can understand that there were not enough minutes for Kirilenko, Miles, Brewer, Korver and Matthews together. Additionally, they had all of these guys and didn't exactly come closer to a title. And I'm sure they never expected Matthews to be that impressive and Hayward to be that unimpressive.
Then again, their decisions look quite questionable in retrospect. A year ago, they gave away Brewer, who had 3 years and $14 million left on his contract, for a 1st round pick. They let Korver walk last summer, even though he only got offered 3 years and $15 million from the Bulls, so not a whole lot. Paying Matthews $34 million over five years looked like a lot a couple of months ago, not now in light of his rise. They could have kept those three guys for 4, 5 and 7 million per year respectively.
Instead, they decided to rely on Miles, an unproven rookie and gave 34-year-old Raja Bell a contract over three years, worth almost $10 million. Sure, they saved a lot of money in the process, but they're paying the price on the floor right now and may have annoyed Williams so much that it cost them their coach.
I guess they would have been better off to just keep Matthews and Korver and try to use Kirilenko's huge contract right about now to bring in an impact player. Letting quality (role) players leave your team for nothing in exchange is rarely a good idea when you're over the cap.
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02-10-2011, 05:35 PM
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And as one very popular german once said "Utah is a bad city." I'm not sure DWill will bemoan leaving.
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02-10-2011, 05:53 PM
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Looks like Williams forced him out. They've been at odds with each other all year long.
Team had to decide between Williams and Sloan and they picked Williams.
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Which makes sense since the team isn't very good, and Williams is pretty much irreplaceable for them. I'm actually not at all surprised by this.
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02-10-2011, 06:31 PM
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Sloan leaving will not make them better. They'll win a few games, but come April, they'll have their 7th seed and a quiet summer will have Deron pondering his future.
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02-13-2011, 09:10 PM
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Agreed. Sloan leaving isn't a gamer changer. This franchise needs a complete reboot. jazz 2.0.
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