NBA Season 14-15: General Thread

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by sefant77

Paul and Griffin are horrible overrated, Jordan is a glorified Brandan Wright and the rest of their players is limited...

I've gotta disagree with you on this score. Neither one of those guys are under-rated imo.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by dude1394

I've gotta disagree with you on this score. Neither one of those guys are under-rated imo.

He says that they are overrated and you say that they aren't underrated? Are they just right?

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

He says that they are overrated and you say that they aren't underrated? Are they just right?

Heh...English is not my native language.

[sefant77]

Im loving that this overrated douche spends his last two years on a trash team..

https://vine.co/v/O1eWiF6ltlI

Btw the next play was a Kobe iso brick...

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by sefant77

Im loving that this overrated douche spends his last two years on a trash team..

https://vine.co/v/O1eWiF6ltlI

Btw the next play was a Kobe iso brick...

Kobe is definitely a douche, but I wouldn't call him overrated. I mean, he overrates himself, sure. But beyond that I think he has deserved all the acclaim he's had in his career.

[sefant77]

His clutchness is overrated due to the sheer amount of shots he takes...

[EricaLubarsky]

Poor Derrick Rose.

[dirt_dobber]

Poor DeMar DeRozan - out indefinitely- torn tendon in his left groin.
technically the left adductor longus tendon, I'm not a Dr. but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn once.

[EricaLubarsky]

When will Philly finally win a game?

Looking like the Spurs are going to push them to 17 straight.

[dirt_dobber]

Enjoying the slide of the barely .500 Miami Heat.
They shot 18-of-30 from the free throw line, for just 60%
and 2-of-22 from 3-point line for just 9.1%

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by dirt_dobber

Enjoying the slide of the barely .500 Miami Heat.
They shot 18-of-30 from the free throw line, for just 60%
and 2-of-22 from 3-point line for just 9.1%

R.I.P. ESPN's Heat Index

[EricaLubarsky]

perhaps it's the winter vortex?

[Jproxursoxoff]

Im honestly so pissed at the Western Conference. Nobody is losing games right now lol. Literally everyone is streaking. And how have the Warriors had THIS easy of a schedule?? In their 10 game win streak they have literally just 1 quality win. I just feel like we're playing well but it doesn't even look like it because of our conference/division.

Also does anyone think they are actually going to make changes for the playoffs to include the 16 best records anytime soon?? I personally don't think so. But if the West continues to be this dominant over the next 4-5 seasons, I think the league is gonna eventually be forced to. Sucks for good WC teams like the Suns and Pelicans. They could win a playoff series in the East but probably won't even get to the postseason.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Sixers won!

[EricaLubarsky]

So glad that the win didn't come against us. Now let's predict the next 18.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by Jproxursoxoff

Im honestly so pissed at the Western Conference. Nobody is losing games right now lol. Literally everyone is streaking.

We're currently in a 4-way tie for the most wins in the league at 15. We obviously have a couple more losses than the teams above us, but we're also just one of three teams in the NBA (and the only in the West) to have played 20 games... For comparison, GS only has 17.

More games = more opportunities to lose. We can only take care of our own schedule, but other teams still have a chance to slip in the rankings once they've caught up to the amount of games we've played.

[EricaLubarsky]

GSW isn't going 0-3, but it's good to know that we've played the most games in the league. Two B2Bs and fewer days to practice means that we'll have more time later on and makes our record more impressive.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Gosh the Knicks are terrible. Talk about a zero regrets trade with those guys. When Calderon isn't hitting shots, then he is pretty much worthless. The guy wasn't even playing at the end of the game.

[spreedom]

Nyets are apparently on the verge of getting blown up (sold?):
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/stor...ez-joe-johnson

Nets exploring potential blockbusters

NEW YORK -- The Brooklyn Nets have begun reaching out to teams to let them know that former All-Stars Deron Williams, Brook Lopez and Joe Johnson are all available via trade, ESPN.com has learned.

League sources told ESPN.com that ‎the Nets, off to a disappointing 8-11 start and looking to retool after last season's $190 million roster filled with veterans couldn't advance beyond the second round of the playoffs, have ‎let it be known that they are prepared to move any of those franchise cornerstones in what would likely be separate deals if they came to fruition because of the high salaries each possess.

Sources say no trade is imminent involving any of the three players.

‎The exploratory discussions with various teams are the strongest indication yet that the Nets are looking to shake up their roster after a tumultuous 2013-14 campaign in which they started 10-21 under rookie coach Jason Kidd. But they did rally to reach the playoffs and beat the Toronto Raptors in a first-round series despite another season of ups and downs for Williams and the injury-plagued Lopez alongside Kevin Garnett and the since-departed Paul Pierce.

Yet sources insist that the Nets haven't abandoned their recent "win-now mentality" and aren't merely looking to dump salary. Brooklyn's hope, sources said, is eventually to construct a deal or two that bring back sufficient talent that enables the Nets remain a playoff team.

The Nets have built their team around Williams, 30, and Lopez, 26, dating to the February 2010 trade to acquire the former from the Utah Jazz. Both have since signed maximum contracts alongside another max player in Johnson, whom Brooklyn acquired in the summer of 2012 to help fend off the Dallas Mavericks and re-sign Williams when he was a free agent.

But the Nets, still sporting a hefty $94 million payroll this season after spending nearly $190 million in salary and luxury taxes last season, have not enjoyed the kind of results they had hoped for under new coach Lionel Hollins.

When asked by reporters Dec. 1 if he thought that the core of Williams, Johnson and Lopez could win, Nets general manager Billy King said: "We'll see."

And when pressed about the possibility of making changes to the roster, King acknowledged that "we're on the phones, we're talking to people, but there's nothing imminent."

The reality, of course, is that trading Williams, Lopez or Johnson, let alone a combination of those three, is likely to be difficult.

Williams has two years remaining on a five-year, $98 million deal and has struggled to recapture the All-Star form he displayed in Utah while battling ankle trouble in recent seasons. He's due $21 million next season and $22.3 million in 2016-17, with the ability to opt of his contract and return to free agency in the summer of 2016.

Lopez, who signed a four-year, $60 million deal in 2012, has one more season left on his contract after this one. It's a player option for 2015-16 worth $16.7 million, which Lopez is expected to exercise given the foot injuries that have plagued him for years in addition to the back strain that has him sidelined at present.

Williams underwent offseason surgery on both ankles but has played in all 20 games this season and is averaging 17.6 points and 6.5 assists in 36.5 minutes per game.

Lopez is averaging 16.1 points and 6.2 rebounds in 16 games this season but has played in a mere 96 games over the past three seasons. The 7-footer appeared in just 17 games last season before suffering a season-ending injury to his right foot Dec. 20 in Philadelphia.

Lopez underwent two procedures on his right foot in January, when he had surgery to repair a fractured fifth metatarsal and a first metatarsal osteotomy, in which another bone was repositioned in his foot to unload and protect the injured area. On March 3, Lopez then had surgery to repair a torn tendon and tighten lateral ligaments in his left ankle.‎

Johnson, meanwhile, is making $23.2 million this season as the league's third-highest player and is owed $24.9 million 2015-16. He combines with Williams and Lopez to form the league's highest paid trio this season at $58.7 million combined.

With both players making their way back while the Nets try to learn a new system under Hollins, Brooklyn has had difficulty meshing at times during the first couple of months.

Williams and Lopez are adjusting to their fourth coach since the 2012-13 season when Avery Johnson was fired and replaced by interim coach P.J. Carlesimo. Hollins, who replaced Kidd, has said he has had to learn a lot about his players and admitted to having to alter his system slightly late last month.

A frustrated Johnson called the team out a few weeks ago for playing "very selfish" and saying that "guys kind of exhaust their options and then when there is nothing else for them, then they'll pass it when they have to."

But the Nets showed their potential with a 95-93 overtime win over the reigning champion San Antonio Spurs last week when Williams had 17 points and nine assists and Lopez had 16 points and 16 rebounds.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Gosh the Knicks are terrible. Talk about a zero regrets trade with those guys. When Calderon isn't hitting shots, then he is pretty much worthless. The guy wasn't even playing at the end of the game.

https://vine.co/v/Ov3O1dnIbdm
Pretty much sums it up

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by spreedom

Nyets are apparently on the verge of getting blown up (sold?):
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/stor...ez-joe-johnson

LOLcalledityearsago

[dirt_dobber]

I am soooooooooooooo glad we didn't get Melo - this story exemplifies the type of player and person he is.

Sources: Strife builds within Knicks

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/stor...rd-sources-say

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by dirt_dobber

I am soooooooooooooo glad we didn't get Melo - this story exemplifies the type of player and person he is.

Sources: Strife builds within Knicks

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/stor...rd-sources-say

[EricaLubarsky]

Carmello is awful. He should have moved teams when he had a chance. Now he's unhappy that he stayed and taking it out on the Knicks.

[Thespiralgoeson]

I still like Carmelo. I agree, he should have bolted to Chicago, but I can't say I blame him for not wanting to take the giant paycut.

Either way, you have to blame Jackson and Fisher for the sorry state the Knicks are in way more than Carmelo. I laughed a little when everyone thought that Phil Jackson, a 69 year old man who's never had any experience as a GM in his life, was somehow going to fix the Knicks. His stubborn insistence on taking the Triangle with him every where he goes is just ridiculous. If you've got all-time great talent, the Triangle can win you a championship. If you've got average talent or less, then all the Triangle does is need things needlessly rigid and complicated, destroys team chemistry, while stifling and alienating all of the players who inevitably hate it.

They're a sh*tty team and they always will be a sh*tty team, because they have a sh*tty owner. By ANY measure, Dolan is one of the worst owners in all of sports. He's an ass clown with little more dignity or credibility than Donald Sterling. But hey, at least he makes some amazing music, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIiM91tc1fk

Wait, no, that's f*cking terrible. It's even sh*ttier than the Knicks.

[sefant77]

Popovich: How many guys are we sitting tonight against the Knicks and are still gonna beat the hell out of those bums?

[sefant77]

Im really enjoying Kobe and Carmella riding into their career sunset on absolute bum teams...with them having their fair share of blame too

[EricaLubarsky]

4x20. Not bad.

[sefant77]

and yeah, Chandler was the lockerroom problem in NY...lol

[EricaLubarsky]

https://twitter.com/thesportsvines/s...12022639063040

Only in the NBA is this not a travel.

[spreedom]

Miss you, Corey.

[LSMF]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

https://twitter.com/thesportsvines/s...12022639063040

Only in the NBA is this not a travel.

The man really picked up his dribble from the 3-Point line and went all the way to the basket for a dunk. That was a blatant travel. Funny thing is no one seemed to notice or care.

[LSMF]

I'm so happy D-Rose is back and healthy. Just really hope he can avoid injury.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEmwJRDVlyY

[dirt_dobber]

Nice night for our 6th place Mavericks!

Losses last night by San Antonio, Portland, Phoenix, Clippers

[spreedom]

Originally Posted by LSMF

The man really picked up his dribble from the 3-Point line and went all the way to the basket for a dunk. That was a blatant travel. Funny thing is no one seemed to notice or care.

Greek Freak is picking up his dribble halfway between halfcourt and the three point line and dunking, legally.

[spreedom]

Kings fired Michael Malone! Unbelievable.

[GhostFace]

Originally Posted by spreedom

Kings fired Michael Malone! Unbelievable.

Just saw this, pretty crazy. From Woj's tweet, Malone didn't meet expectations of the ownership...

[Woj] Despite star DeMarcus Cousins missing past nine games, Malone didn't meet win-loss expectations of ownership, sources tell Yahoo.

I don't understand what they were expecting with Cousins out. Really unfortunate.

[EricaLubarsky]

Philly fan buys 18 tickets to 76ers/Pacers game for 72 cents — total
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ba...4098--nba.html

[GhostFace]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Philly fan buys 18 tickets to 76ers/Pacers game for 72 cents — total
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ba...4098--nba.html

What I would give...

A few weeks ago I was looking at ticket prices for the Mavs at Knicks tonight and the prices were just so damn high. I think I'm better off just going to Brooklyn vs Mavs in January.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Philly fan buys 18 tickets to 76ers/Pacers game for 72 cents — total
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ba...4098--nba.html

Hope you saw the date of that article.